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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jun 1, 2017 15:09:33 GMT
I know, I know. I don't blame you, I have poor impulse control On the plus side, some of the spoiler stuff I suspected. There are too many loose threads and characters who know too much and endanger the Underwoods to not start killing them off. I'm glad Tom dies because I hate him so much LeAnn had "I'm going to disappear/die" written all over her all season too. Claire is awesome, and while I'm just going off of your spoilers, it wouldn't surprise me if she throws Francis under the bus. He really takes her for granted throughout the show imo. Incant wait to see her 4th wall breaks. She did a talk show appearance where she suggested this would happen so I've been waiting for it all season
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jun 1, 2017 21:37:26 GMT
The sarin gas stuff is pretty tragic all things considered. Obviously filmed before it happened but nevertheless And omg Claire's first fourth wall break was everything i hoped for!
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 2, 2017 3:02:21 GMT
I think I accidentally just got spoiled on the end of the season. if it's true, YES CLAIRE YES.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jun 2, 2017 19:14:28 GMT
Okay finally finished. Overall a great season. Few things Is Cathy actually dead? At the end of Chapter 64 she is still alive (Director Green says he hopes she makes a full recovery) and she isn't mentioned in the finale. So good news for Zadeth since she could still be in next season. Damn, I really liked LeAnn. Her death made me sad. Not sure if it will break Doug - if he could kill Rachel for Frank, I'm not sure LeAnn being killed would break him. But we'll see. Davis was such a weird character and I still don't really understand her and what motivates her or exactly whose side she is on. Just when I think I know, things are flipped again. I miss Remy and Jackie. Kept hoping for a cameo when there were all those name drops. I don't think Claire will pardon Francis. Though I guess it will be difficult for her to go up against him all things considered. One of them starts a war with the other is basically MAD because they have so much dirt on one another. I can already imagine the cries of anguish on the interwebs now Claire is president. I watched a stupid watch mojo thing the other day and the comments were hilarious because The had Claire as #1 character Weird having Eric killed off at the end like that. Weird character all around actually. Not sure he added anything at all to the season. Did anyone else think LeAnn looked like Zoe a bit?
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Post by Father of Dragons on Jun 2, 2017 19:39:04 GMT
Okay finally finished. Overall a great season. Few things Is Cathy actually dead? At the end of Chapter 64 she is still alive (Director Green says he hopes she makes a full recovery) and she isn't mentioned in the finale. So good news for Zadeth since she could still be in next season. Damn, I really liked LeAnn. Her death made me sad. Not sure if it will break Doug - if he could kill Rachel for Frank, I'm not sure LeAnn being killed would break him. But we'll see. Davis was such a weird character and I still don't really understand her and what motivates her or exactly whose side she is on. Just when I think I know, things are flipped again. I miss Remy and Jackie. Kept hoping for a cameo when there were all those name drops. I don't think Claire will pardon Francis. Though I guess it will be difficult for her to go up against him all things considered. One of them starts a war with the other is basically MAD because they have so much dirt on one another. I can already imagine the cries of anguish on the interwebs now Claire is president. I watched a stupid watch mojo thing the other day and the comments were hilarious because The had Claire as #1 character Weird having Eric killed off at the end like that. Weird character all around actually. Not sure he added anything at all to the season. Did anyone else think LeAnn looked like Zoe a bit? I think Cathy must be in a coma. She might have amnesia or something when she wakes up, otherwise that's another person out to get Frank. Something's got to break Doug. I feel like there's been some build-up of that. Something. Eventually. Please. I'm not entirely sure who Davis and Usher are and what their roles are. I think my brain just switched off when they were introduced so everything about them was a mystery to me I felt like it was a strange choice to make the guy who played Frank's ancestor become his personal trainer. I wasn't sure where they were going with him, and then they killed him off.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 2, 2017 19:51:33 GMT
Your initials...they're missing an "n" and a "t".
IM SHOOK.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 2, 2017 20:40:48 GMT
I fucking hate Doug Stamper. For someone so arrogant and conniving, he never really seems to be able to do anything right. He's so confident in himself, yet he just acts like a douche and everyone hates him.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jun 3, 2017 0:38:53 GMT
Okay finally finished. Overall a great season. Few things Is Cathy actually dead? At the end of Chapter 64 she is still alive (Director Green says he hopes she makes a full recovery) and she isn't mentioned in the finale. So good news for Zadeth since she could still be in next season. Damn, I really liked LeAnn. Her death made me sad. Not sure if it will break Doug - if he could kill Rachel for Frank, I'm not sure LeAnn being killed would break him. But we'll see. Davis was such a weird character and I still don't really understand her and what motivates her or exactly whose side she is on. Just when I think I know, things are flipped again. I miss Remy and Jackie. Kept hoping for a cameo when there were all those name drops. I don't think Claire will pardon Francis. Though I guess it will be difficult for her to go up against him all things considered. One of them starts a war with the other is basically MAD because they have so much dirt on one another. I can already imagine the cries of anguish on the interwebs now Claire is president. I watched a stupid watch mojo thing the other day and the comments were hilarious because The had Claire as #1 character Weird having Eric killed off at the end like that. Weird character all around actually. Not sure he added anything at all to the season. Did anyone else think LeAnn looked like Zoe a bit? I think Cathy must be in a coma. She might have amnesia or something when she wakes up, otherwise that's another person out to get Frank. Something's got to break Doug. I feel like there's been some build-up of that. Something. Eventually. Please. I'm not entirely sure who Davis and Usher are and what their roles are. I think my brain just switched off when they were introduced so everything about them was a mystery to me I felt like it was a strange choice to make the guy who played Frank's ancestor become his personal trainer. I wasn't sure where they were going with him, and then they killed him off.Bolder: After they did the nasty in the basement so peculiar you are probably right about Cathy being in a coma but I don't think she will have amnesia. They probably need her on ice so Claire can use her against Francis next season. I can see some suggestion Doug would break. Or at the very least, he would bring Claire down. Pretty obvious he is loyal to Frank, not the Underwoods. I still found Davis interesting, for all she was heartless and confusing. She straight up told Claire she could arrange for Francis to die, which takes guts. I look forward to seeing more of her. And she clearly has history with Usher, probably romantic knowing this show.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jun 7, 2017 14:28:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 2:21:46 GMT
shit i have to watch this
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Post by Zadeth on Jul 7, 2017 12:41:33 GMT
Season 5 spoilers within
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Post by TheMadQueen on Oct 23, 2017 0:23:51 GMT
Trying to get through season five again. That Crows of Elysium thing was so absurd. Claire is killin it tho
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Post by Father of Dragons on Mar 5, 2018 14:56:53 GMT
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Mar 20, 2018 15:00:14 GMT
See I'm interested vin watching this because Claire/Robin Wright is a straight up Boss but somehow I keep forgetting the show will be back soon Will not grieve for the lack of Spacey though. Yes, he is a great actor (POS human being, but I can still acknowledge his talent), but I don't think he brought anything to the show they haven't already been working to build Claire towards over the last few seasons.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Mar 20, 2018 15:01:24 GMT
Also I'm so ready for some more of Claire's awesome wardrobe
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Post by Father of Dragons on Nov 4, 2018 23:34:00 GMT
So just finished the first of the new episodes. Maybe it's just because it's been a while, but this almost feels like a different show. And I don't mean because Spacey's gone, it just has a different feel to it I guess. I can't really explain it.
I don't know if they necessarily had to kill off Frank. Yes I understand they had to get rid of the character somehow, but didn't the last season end with him heading off to jail? He could've just stayed there, and the story could've continued without him rather than having a time jump and slowly feeding the viewer information. Or maybe plot-wise it would've been "too easy" to send a Frank to jail, so they just got rid of him permanently. Oh well.
Despite those misgivings about how they dealt with Frank no longer being around, I certainly didn't think the show was any worse off without him. The episode had my full attention, and the cast they've got is still superb. Just not a huge fan of time jumps. It could be that my main source of confusion is not remembering who the fuck half these people are or what they were doing in the last season. I'd probably need to rewatch the previous seasons to get a good idea of what's going on, otherwise Wikipedia will have to suffice!
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Post by Father of Dragons on Nov 5, 2018 20:16:02 GMT
Spoilers up to ep 5 A pretty cheesy ending to episode 5 but it was worth it for the look on Annette's face.
In general the episodes feel kinda slow (though that's not different from the last few seasons), and there's lots of stuff I really don't care about - like I'm still not sure who Jane is, where she came from or why I should care about her - but also there's some really great twists in there. Watching Claire play the game her own way is very satisfying - like how she dealt with Usher's blackmail attempt by saying that Russia killed Tom, which she got away with because she appeased Petrov at Cathy's "funeral". Or how she expanded on that by getting rid of her cabinet and VP since they were all Shephard stooges. I especially like how she keeps tricking her opponents into thinking she's not as smart as Frank was, so they keep underestimating her. Great stuff.
A lot of the time I find myself thinking how this season would've unfolded were Spacey still in it, and to be honest I don't think it would've been too different. Claire says in the first episode that Frank aligned himself with the Shephards before his death, and I think we would've seen that relationship he had with them. So instead of Claire vs Usher and the Shephards, it would've been Claire vs Usher, the Shephards and Frank. Like I think Frank would've been the one to tell them about Claire's abortion after 16 weeks instead of... however it is they found out (I must've missed that part).
There are still a few things that confuse me, like what's the deal with Cathy and wtf are the journalists doing this season - seriously I have no fucking clue what Janine's storyline is about, but Claire's story is definitely keeping me hooked.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Nov 8, 2018 14:14:18 GMT
I’m working through slowly. It’s fine so far and doesn’t really feel Spacey’s absence. Robin Wright is brilliant and stunning as always. I’m interested to see how this ends. I like the addition of young Claire’s flashbacks
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Post by Father of Dragons on Nov 11, 2018 1:27:31 GMT
Finished. Spoilers for all Well those last 2 were... certainly something. I think that second last episode is where I took the turn from "this isn't too bad, there's a lot I like" to "please just let this end", which it thankfully did.
I'm not sure what I disliked the most: the casual, James-Bond-baddie-esque discussion about killing the president, or the fact that that whole subplot - and basically everything involving the Shephards - was kinda meaningless. I don't feel like there was any payoff for following them all season.
I didn't care at all about the Shephard family drama, particularly involving Duncan, but I'd hoped that there would have been a point to it later on, but no. Or I guess that's the motivation for Annette to kill Claire? Even then, it's still a really convoluted and largely uninteresting subplot which was really just there to kill time.
Speaking of not being much use, what happened to Seth? He was such a non-character this season. You could take him out the plot and I can't really tell what would've changed. And suddenly he's perfectly okay with killing the president - the wife of a man he worked for for years? There's no explanation for why he's so up for that plan and it's bizarre that he has zero input.
And maybe it's just my general disinterest in Doug since the end of S3, but that teary-eyed confession about killing Frank fell totally flat for me. Plus all the doublespeak just totally confused me. I hope someone can explain to me whose side he was on in those last episodes, since he didn't seem to be the guy the Shephards sent to kill Claire.
Were I to pick one thing I liked ... uh Lars Mikkelsen I guess? More of him is never a bad thing. But other than that, really underwhelmed.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Nov 12, 2018 13:28:31 GMT
Wait that was the end? What a wet fart of an ending. I thought I had missed an episode or something but nope. It wasn’t great. Robin Wright put in a good performance but the writing was poor and no amount of production value could hide that. The score, especially the final episodes, was phenomenal though
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