Sansa-Ramsay Scene: Your Thoughts?

Those comments made me want to puke so I converted the image to a link instead, just so people don't have to see them

Sorry I didn't think about that

Yup.

Seriously...the internet social justice warrior schtick is getting old.

This is fiction.  I will save my outrage for the real victims...not for a fictional character in a fictional tv show based on a fictional book series.

I prefer this headline from FARK, myself:

Twitter freaks out over horrific Game of Thrones scene. This is not a repeat from every week it airs

You know it's a sad day when a site like Fark is a voice of reason.

I don't even know what to say about this anymore. Yes the scene was gross, I hated it, I think it was a huge mistake on D&D to bring Sansa to Winterfell for this story, but what did some of these people think was going to happen?

And for an article to say "women only exist on GoT to be raped or tortured." No they don't.

I just have a hard time with all of this because I have always watched my entertainment with a detachment that doesn't have me emotionally connect the fictional things that are occurring on the screen with things that are really going on in the world. As long as I am entertained by the story and engaged in it, you can put whatever the hell you want up on the screen.

I certainly can sympathize with people who can't make this distinction and have fictional things act as triggers for real world stuff. It is always strange to me however, that sexual violence is the ONLY thing that seems to create this reaction. I assume many people in a show's audience have had to deal with loved ones dying (possibly violently), physical abuse, painful disease, bullying, being marginalized, being discriminated against etc etc. But there appears to be a general acceptance of these acts as being a part of the fictional world that the characters there may have to endure. I'm not entirely certain why rape is a completely separate category that just cannot be touched upon in a fictional universe, especially if the preponderance of it is consistent with the universe created.

It was tough to see Sansa raped but I personally feel more engaged in her story as a result as I would like to see how she deals with it and what it propels her to do next. I also feel like I'm more engaged with seeing Ramsay get his comeuppance which I think is another purpose of the scene. It is true that we always knew Ramsay was an awful person but did we all so viscerally want to see him punished as we do now? Again, this engages me more. Do I want to see a character raped on a regular basis on the show? No, of course not. It's a terrible thing (as is murder) and the more you see an awful thing, the more it loses its power.

But to say there was NO REASON for the scene, I beg to differ. I didn't want to see Sansa raped but I sure as hell want to see what happens next because she did, and I already was liking the Winterfell story.

I'm disgusted by the prevalence of rape culture and what the show has done to the arc of many women characters. However, it is hardly unique to Game of Thrones/D&D. I'm also sick to death of what I've seen the last 12+ hours of GRRM getting put on a pedestal and fandom's collective memory getting wipe. GRRM has done terrible things yet those will be ignored.  The entire Jeyne plotline in ADWD was horrible. D&D put their own spin on it, but GRRM wrote the situation in the first place.

I support knocking at D&D an Cogman's door too. However, if people are going to have issues they need to look at the man that created the series in the first place.

I don't see this as Sansa becoming a victim again, not at all. People need to understand that character development is not simply going from lose-lose-lose to win-win-win or the other way around. Hardships must be faced on the way up as well, just as small victories must be had during the hard times.

I threw up on my shoes... and I survived Buchenwald.