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Post by tyrell19 on Jun 4, 2015 20:00:23 GMT
Had a horrible thought. Stannis diesin raid. Shireen would be burnt to resurrect him but because she has greyscale his death actually serves the great other. He comes back as... the night king who then proceeds to resurrect all those who died in ramsays raid. in ep 10 the army of the dead marches on winterfell!!
I've always wondered why Melisandre saw Stannis in her visions and this could be a reason why. She wasn't seeing the hero but the enemy
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 20:01:07 GMT
Had a horrible thought. Stannis diesin raid. Shireen would be burnt to resurrect him but because she has greyscale his death actually serves the great other. He comes back as... the night king who then proceeds to resurrect all those who died in ramsays raid. in ep 10 the army of the dead marches on winterfell!! I've always wondered why Melisandre saw Stannis in her visions and this could be a reason why. She wasn't seeing the hero but the enemy I might actually stop if this happens. Thank goodness that it won't.
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Post by sj4iy on Jun 4, 2015 20:02:35 GMT
Had a horrible thought. Stannis diesin raid. Shireen would be burnt to resurrect him but because she has greyscale his death actually serves the great other. He comes back as... the night king who then proceeds to resurrect all those who died in ramsays raid. in ep 10 the army of the dead marches on winterfell!! I've always wondered why Melisandre saw Stannis in her visions and this could be a reason why. She wasn't seeing the hero but the enemy What, is Stannis going to go fight the already-introduced Night's King for the new top spot amongst the White Walkers?
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Post by theonionsleight on Jun 4, 2015 20:34:04 GMT
Shiiit, people over at WotW and AFOIAF convinced/made me now to expect the worst (Stannis agreeing to the sacrifice, Shireen burning), and I'm praying to any god that guys with this prediction are wrong, this episode already makes me losing my shit...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 20:38:38 GMT
Shiiit, people over at WotW and AFOIAF convinced/made me now to expect the worst (Stannis agreeing to the sacrifice, Shireen burning), and I'm praying to any god that guys with this prediction are wrong, this episode already makes me losing my shit... Am I the only person on here who is pretty sure that this is not going to happen?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 20:43:24 GMT
Shiiit, people over at WotW and AFOIAF convinced/made me now to expect the worst (Stannis agreeing to the sacrifice, Shireen burning), and I'm praying to any god that guys with this prediction are wrong, this episode already makes me losing my shit... Am I the only person on here who is pretty sure that this is not going to happen? No you're not. Stannis is not going to agree to do that.
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Post by Admin on Jun 4, 2015 20:47:20 GMT
Shiiit, people over at WotW and AFOIAF convinced/made me now to expect the worst (Stannis agreeing to the sacrifice, Shireen burning), and I'm praying to any god that guys with this prediction are wrong, this episode already makes me losing my shit... Stannis is gonna be fine and LS is in. Because goddammit I deserve nice things.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 20:57:53 GMT
Stannis's fate will probably be left as a cliffhanger. D&D mentioned that this season will have four major characters die who are still alive in the books, but killing Stannis would piss off a lot of people. As for the 4 major character deaths, there was already Mance and Barristan...the other two remains a mystery still because I don't think Meryn Trant is considered major, but I guess he could fit. Bronn and Jorah could die, but then why save Bronn with an antidote and then why give Jorah Greyscale, if he was gonna die anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 21:00:39 GMT
Stannis's fate will probably be left as a cliffhanger. D&D mentioned that this season will have four major characters die who are still alive in the books, but killing Stannis would piss off a lot of people. As for the 4 major character deaths, there was already Mance and Barristan...the other two remains a mystery still because I don't think Meryn Trant is considered major, but I guess he could fit. Bronn and Jorah could die, but then why save Bronn with an antidote and then why give Jorah Greyscale, if he was gonna die anyway. If it's what happens early on in TWOW, I really could see Stan being killed in 510.
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Post by Admin on Jun 4, 2015 21:03:48 GMT
How sure is this 'four major character die' thing?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 21:04:14 GMT
How sure is this 'four major character die' thing? Someone on here posted it, but I don't remember who. Oh it's from westeros.org, ugh.
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Post by valyrianshadow on Jun 4, 2015 21:06:32 GMT
Shiiit, people over at WotW and AFOIAF convinced/made me now to expect the worst (Stannis agreeing to the sacrifice, Shireen burning), and I'm praying to any god that guys with this prediction are wrong, this episode already makes me losing my shit... I just came over here to say that! WotW comments are totally expecting it! I've seen "Stannis will let her burn" about 30 times! They're messing me up! If D&D ruin Stannis for me by having him agree to that I am done. Done. Book and show Stannis would never. I'm expecting it. I didn't want to but it's proabaly happening. Shireen will burn. But why and who are the questions. This fucking sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 21:09:52 GMT
With the Stannis/Shireen scene from 5x04 and Stannis's reaction to Melisandre's suggestion in 5x07, I just don't see Stannis plausibly allowing this to happen. It would be a complete u-turn in Stannis's characterisation and would have no foreshadowing whatsoever. If it happens, it has to happen against his will.
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Post by Admin on Jun 4, 2015 21:14:08 GMT
Shiiit, people over at WotW and AFOIAF convinced/made me now to expect the worst (Stannis agreeing to the sacrifice, Shireen burning), and I'm praying to any god that guys with this prediction are wrong, this episode already makes me losing my shit... I just came over here to say that! WotW comments are totally expecting it! I've seen "Stannis will let her burn" about 30 times! They're messing me up! If D&D ruin Stannis for me by having him agree to that I am done. Done. Book and show Stannis would never. I'm expecting it. I didn't want to but it's proabaly happening. Shireen will burn. But why and who are the questions. This fucking sucks. People over WOTW know nothing, they actually think "Forgive me" plays over Varys' big scene
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Post by Enid on Jun 4, 2015 21:18:14 GMT
It wouldn't be the first time GOT fans jump the gun, last season a lot of people were pissed after "Watchers on the Wall" because Stannis wasn't in the episode, even though in the books he didn't arrive until the battle had been going on for a few days. And then Stannis arrived just like in the books.
I don't think Stannis will agree to burn Shireen, what concerns me is what Melisandre and Selyse may do if Stannis is injured or if they go back to the Wall while he goes to Winterfell. Because Selyse will be the first one building the pyre if Mel tells her to burn her own daughter
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 21:18:57 GMT
If it's what happens early on in TWOW, I really could see Stan being killed in 510. I always saw Stannis having a part in the Final Battle against the White Walkers, but I guess there would have to be major casualties for the Battle of Winterfell. It's also confusing because I think GRRM might have said that Theon's sample chapter in TWOW occurs before the timeline of ADWD ends.
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Post by breakfest on Jun 4, 2015 22:06:13 GMT
Didn't GRRM say the four characters dying thing himself? Pretty sure it was from an interview with him, probably EW. I think it's safe to say we'll have another new death after Meryn, but it could be someone less prominent than we first expected like Hizdahr or something.
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Post by boojam on Jun 4, 2015 22:28:16 GMT
But there has been hardly any discussion from Emilia or anyone in Meereen about how the shooting there went. We know they were there on location for about two weeks. However, there had to be some studio shooting for all the Drogon stuff, which we have no clue about. The show did present a lot of tangential 'behind the scenes ' stuff about HardHome , even tho one could tell something BIG was brewing not sure anyone guessed it would be this BIG! I have a feeling that that shooting in Osuna must have seemed ok until you-know-who arrives. Even with the flame throwering that sequence may have ended with everyone 'holding a pose'. Yeah Emilia has never eluded to a bunch of green screen studio effects work , I have in mind all that stuff Naomi Watts did for Peter Jackson's King Kong. Don't think it will be as elaborate in scale, but a lot of complicated stuff has to be done to make it look good. Of course they have more and more clever ways of doing that these days, thinking of Gravity. Wonder if any other of the cast were in the sound stage shooting?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 22:47:13 GMT
Shiiit, people over at WotW and AFOIAF convinced/made me now to expect the worst (Stannis agreeing to the sacrifice, Shireen burning), and I'm praying to any god that guys with this prediction are wrong, this episode already makes me losing my shit... Am I the only person on here who is pretty sure that this is not going to happen? I think plenty of us here believe Stannis and Shireen both will be fine. They're building up some tension there and some concern based on threats and suggestions, but nothing is a given in this show so I don't know why people love to hang all over the theme that "if they play up a character that means they're going to die" - which is boring and predictable and not true. The fact that fans are divided on this fear is actually an indication they're doing a good job keeping the suspense good!
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 5, 2015 0:02:22 GMT
Shiiit, people over at WotW and AFOIAF convinced/made me now to expect the worst (Stannis agreeing to the sacrifice, Shireen burning), and I'm praying to any god that guys with this prediction are wrong, this episode already makes me losing my shit... Am I the only person on here who is pretty sure that this is not going to happen? I don't think it happens either. Too many bonding scenes with Shireen to make him subtly turn like that. Unless D&D are hellbent on portraying him as a villain, and in that case we wouldn't have had those scenes in the first place.
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