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Post by King Tommen on May 14, 2015 23:42:52 GMT
Now, now. The Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams several times. What is this about? I'm not up on the politics north of the Wall.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 23:52:24 GMT
What in particular do we all think "Stannis remains stubborn" is referring to btw? Most of the lines from these summaries are incomplete sentences really that are only completed by injecting a plot point into them, like for 508 we have "Jon travels" which is completed by "to Hardhome" or "Cersei struggles" which is likely completed by "as the Faith's Prisoner." Or for this ep. in particular "Brienne waits for a sign" that is completed by "from the Broken Tower." So in the same vein, what exactly is Stannis being stubborn about? It's likely some plot point or another and likely has to do with his scene in the tent with Mel and Dave from the second trailer where they're looking over the maps and he says, "This is the time and I will risk everything." My only guess as of now is that maybe Davos is once again suggesting that he wait until Jon returns from Hardhome with Tormund's willdings as potential reinforcements for Stannis (as he did in ep. 505). So what do you all think? "Stannis remains stubborn ______________" About what? A great many things Stannis could remain stubborn about tbh. It 90% of what he does! The weather, the Northerners attitude to him, his rights as a king. I personally hope its toward Selyse, and it means he won't let that religious nut job near his Shireen I think the Stannis/Shireen scene in 504 teases that he wont let anything happen to her and the scene in the trailer of Selyse in the snow may be an intentional mislead, as she could be doing it over Stannis refusing R'hollor or Mel leaving which seems likely by the end of this series. (bye bye Mel) |
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Post by AdmiralKyrd on May 15, 2015 1:22:58 GMT
The Baratheon General will analyze their disposition and scouting reports from Winterfell and will argue with Stannis that they can't win. The argument will finally hit it's breaking point when the general says "But we have far less men than the Boltons!"
Teeth will never have been gritted so hard.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 1:25:48 GMT
The Baratheon General will analyze their disposition and scouting reports from Winterfell and will argue with Stannis that they can't win. The argument will finally hit it's breaking point when the general says "But we have far less men than the Boltons!" Teeth will never have been gritted so hard. Ha, good one. Clever!  |
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Post by King Tommen on May 18, 2015 3:26:18 GMT
So now that we know Malko is bringing Jorah and Tyrion to the auction (where Dany and Hizdahr will be present), what the hell is up with Yezzan. This is probably such a minor thing that I shouldn't obsess over it but I don't get what the point of this character is and why he was highlighted as a major cast addition. It almost feels like the guy's been cut.
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Post by Nezzer on May 18, 2015 19:02:09 GMT
So is Arya in this episode? She is not mentioned in the synopsis and she doesn't appear in the promo. The title fits her storyline but we just saw her giving a girl the gift of death last episode. Maybe this scene was moved from 5x07 to 5x06?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 19:15:55 GMT
So is Arya in this episode? She is not mentioned in the synopsis and she doesn't appear in the promo. The title fits her storyline but we just saw her giving a girl the gift of death last episode. Maybe this scene was moved from 5x07 to 5x06? I can't imagine her skipping another so soon, but I guess it's possible. I hope not though, I'm actually enjoying her HoBaW story much more on the show than I did in the books. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 19:37:06 GMT
She's in at least 5 episodes this season, but that still would be down from last year.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 20:34:59 GMT
Okay so based on the trailer, Stannis has a new foe
The winter
Oh god, I just hope those fluttering snow storms know their grammar, or else Stannis has this one in the bag.
So I guess we all know why he remains stubborn.
Also, Tarly is running out of friends. I take this as meaning Edd and Co are going with Jon. So are they all gonna be in on For the watch?
I can take Olly betraying Jon. But Edd? Don't do this to me HBO...
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 7:23:54 GMT
Tarly running out of friends can also mean Aemon's death. If Jon's leaving and Aemon dies, Sam doesn't have many left who are on his/Jon's side.
I know a lot of people think Shireen and lady crew get sent back to the Wall - but when or how is this possible with the bad weather? To go north would be suicide wouldn't it? To stay there may just as well be also but still. I think everyone wants Melisandre to get back up there in time for FTW, right? I'm trying to fit pieces together here with what little time is left.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 7:30:17 GMT
Okay so based on the trailer, Stannis has a new foe The winter Oh god, I just hope those fluttering snow storms know their grammar, or else Stannis has this one in the bag. So I guess we all know why he remains stubborn. Also, Tarly is running out of friends. I take this as meaning Edd and Co are going with Jon. So are they all gonna be in on For the watch? I can take Olly betraying Jon. But Edd? Don't do this to me HBO... It's the people who aren't going to Hardhome with him that he ought to worry about. Thorne and Olly aren't going along. Edd is. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 20:54:54 GMT
Do we know if Edd is going to come back from Hardhome?
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Post by Enid on May 22, 2015 21:17:52 GMT
I hope he does. I need Edd
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 21:20:52 GMT
Do we know if Edd is going to come back from Hardhome? Of course. Olly is going to need someone to help him shiv Jon  |
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Post by evenstar on May 23, 2015 2:01:08 GMT
Episode #47: “The Gift”Stannis (Stephen Dillane) remains stubborn.  That can't be right. I mean who put that there?! I am curious about the Theon/Sansa talk. And the same about Jamie/ Myrcella. Olenna is doing her thing and I'm hopeful that roll she carries around KL to the HS (that's my assumption because of the background in the pic they've released) will have the royal pardon for Margery, once Tommen finds his royal balls.... EDIT: Edd could be a gonner at Hardhome, but honestly FTW needs some characters that are recognizable to pull the Brutus act. Olly simply doesn't have the same weight as Edd (fig speaking). And no Unsullied I know even remembers Bowen Marsh. Maybe Ser Aliser will do the honors too. |
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Post by King Tommen on May 23, 2015 12:15:34 GMT
I think it's fairly obvious that it's Alliser that leads the revolt against Jon (we have him giving another 'this Wildling rescue is not right' speeches to Jon in this episode).
It's been obvious since we learned he survived last season that he'd be playing the Bowen Marsh role. Some fans curiously seem to be ignoring this. Will Olly be involved? Sure. But a senior Watch guy has to be the one to initiate things and Alliser is the only candidate as well as someone who the show has clearly set up to be consistent with these actions.
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Post by King Tommen on May 23, 2015 12:28:33 GMT
Also, Edd will not be involved in Jon's stabbing because he's in the "friend" category. People were reading way too much into what he said during the NW meeting. The important part of his lines were "you know I'll follow you anywhere...". That's not a guy who's going to turn around and stab you just because he doesn't agree with a decision.
He's going to Hardhome and it's probably so we have a semi-significant death there and also to remove another friend from Jon for when it's time for FTW.
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Post by evenstar on May 23, 2015 12:50:17 GMT
We'll have to see. In my opinion, the show has changed Edd much. I honestly don't see the same close connection he had in the books with Jon and obviously the outburst from the NW gathering when he spoke against the Hardhome rescue party was a pretty big thing. They could have let that modified objection for Bowen Marsh, no? I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time either. I don't do particular well at speculation though I love the game ( ) |
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Post by King Tommen on May 23, 2015 13:17:17 GMT
We'll have to see. In my opinion, the show has changed Edd much. I honestly don't see the same close connection he had in the books with Jon and obviously the outburst from the NW gathering when he spoke against the Hardhome rescue party was a pretty big thing. They could have let that modified objection for Bowen Marsh, no? I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time either. I don't do particular well at speculation though I love the game ( ) Edd appears to be one of the few NW guys who goes to Hardhome with Jon which is a pretty good indicator of his loyalty. I think it was in character for him to say what he did in the meeting. It was a "I'm with you no matter what but know that this is not a great idea." I also think that Edd's "friendship" with Jon in the books is being a little overstated. If anything, on the show he's much more of a companion to Jon as opposed to the glum Eeyore he is in the books. It's too big of a swing to have one of Jon's friends turn around and help to kill him just because of this decision. It makes more sense to have senior NW guys who weren't really predisposed to following Jon in the first place like Alliser (and Marsh in the books) make that turn. They don't even really have an "Olly" equivalent in the books who takes part in the betrayal. The only reason it makes sense for Olly to go that far and take this step is because he's had his family slaughtered brutally by Wildlings in front of him so there's enough motivation for him to betray Jon. Edd isn't in the same category. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 18:39:03 GMT
We'll have to see. In my opinion, the show has changed Edd much. I honestly don't see the same close connection he had in the books with Jon and obviously the outburst from the NW gathering when he spoke against the Hardhome rescue party was a pretty big thing. They could have let that modified objection for Bowen Marsh, no? I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time either. I don't do particular well at speculation though I love the game ( ) Edd appears to be one of the few NW guys who goes to Hardhome with Jon which is a pretty good indicator of his loyalty.Is it? After what he did to Slynt he's not like to disobey him if he asks him to come, is he? |
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That can't be right. I mean who put that there?!