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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 11:33:08 GMT
And sorry bae + Konrad, but I'm here for the books first and foremost  I love the show too, don't get me wrong, but I hate the idea of never being able to read the end of this story in one of grrm's books. Well I'm sure they'll come out at some point.  |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jan 2, 2016 11:34:00 GMT
I kind've feel bad for him, seems so stressed, and theres an immense amount of pressure. I feel bad for him too, because that whole post makes it all too obvious how disappointed in himself he is. Shame. I'm not on to get in a tizzy over deadlines though because I have plenty of other books and series I read, meaning I quite happily just check back into ASOIAF as and when I can. As for the show, well, he said nothing new on that front. Personally I probably won't watch S6, because I wasn't a fan of S5 and I much prefer the medium of books to tv/film. I'll read WoW and DoS when they come out though, whenever that might be. For those who mentioned Theon, I'm going to be Mr. Pedantic here and point out that he could just be revising the chapter he already released  |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jan 2, 2016 11:34:53 GMT
Poor guy  I bet segments of the fandom are cursing the fucking puppies all to hell In any case, I have said for ages that he's nearly finished, and if he thought he old do it in a couple of months then he is definitely nearly finished. 2016 feels likely now. We should all curse the puppies anyway  |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jan 2, 2016 11:37:19 GMT
I do think the books tell a better story and I'd rather read that story than only have the show, but I did watch the show first and I expect I'll find a new obsession, given enough time to move on with my life.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jan 2, 2016 11:43:23 GMT
For those who mentioned Theon, I'm going to be Mr. Pedantic here and point out that he could just be revising the chapter he already released He could be, but then I'd be genuinely annoyed with him if he's still stuck on a chapter from years ago. And the way he said it was if he was trying to say he was making progress. If he had been revising the same Theon chapter all this time I don't think he'd use that as his example of "Well, I am writing". |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 11:45:24 GMT
For those who mentioned Theon, I'm going to be Mr. Pedantic here and point out that he could just be revising the chapter he already released He could be, but then I'd be genuinely annoyed with him if he's still stuck on a chapter from years ago. And the way he said it was if he was trying to say he was making progress. If he had been revising the same Theon chapter all this time I don't think he'd use that as his example of "Well, I am writing". it's likely not that chapter he's talking about, but he doesn't write in order so him working on a Theon chapter now doesn't really mean much for his survival prospects other than he (probably) has at least 2 chapters in the book |
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Post by Basil on Jan 2, 2016 11:50:52 GMT
I do love the show, despite my low opinion of Season 5, and I am looking forward to Season 6, but to me, the books are where it's at and I'd be devastated if for whatever reason GRRM isn't able or willing to finish his story.
To me, the show tells the bare minimum of the story, it seldom goes into detail on character backgrounds or motivations, elaborates on historical events or talks about the more minor houses or characters. All these characters and the universe GRRM has created, they are so rich and multilayered, the show alone could never do any of that justice, in my opinion, that's why I'll always prefer the books. The show is just a beautiful by-product to me, never the main attraction.
I'm not saying you're wrong for loving the show over the books, I'm just telling you why the books will always come first for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 11:52:11 GMT
I'm not saying you're wrong for loving the show over the books, I'm just telling you why the books will always come first for me. No one said you would be saying that, Al. |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jan 2, 2016 11:52:49 GMT
He could be, but then I'd be genuinely annoyed with him if he's still stuck on a chapter from years ago. And the way he said it was if he was trying to say he was making progress. If he had been revising the same Theon chapter all this time I don't think he'd use that as his example of "Well, I am writing". it's likely not that chapter he's talking about, but he doesn't write in order so him working on a Theon chapter now doesn't really mean much for his survival prospects other than he (probably) has at least 2 chapters in the book Knowing Theon has at least two chapters is still something. He could've died right after his first chapter in Asha's PoV, since people who die for realsies don't do so in their own PoV. I didn't really think it would happen that soon, but it's still nice to know. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 11:53:42 GMT
I love GRRM and I'm forever thankful for the world he created and for the first three books, but I must say I couldn't care less. I'm a fan of the show. To me the show is canon now and has been for quite some time. If HBO successfully tells the end of the story, I'll be more than happy. I don't care about the book series anymore. I hope that GRRM realizes that he has the chance to tell some version of his story on the small screen and goes back to writing scripts for the show. S7 and S8 would really profit from that. Reading this from you broke my heart a little bit, ngl. There, there. We are allowed to like different things and have different opinions on stuff. You know, I can be objective and say when I think the books have done a better job than the show did. I think I often do so, e.g. Stoneheart or Tyrion. But I simply enjoy the show more. That has always been the case and is not a recent development. Earlier I said that I'm thankful for the first three books. That's not true actually. I'm thankful for AGoT and ASoS. I found ACoK to be a bore, really. I even prefer books 4 and 5 over that one. The books simply do not excite me as much as the show does. And the fact that GRRM has clearly lost motivation to write his books, doesn't improve my excitement for them either. As I said, I love and respect the hell out of the guy but no professional writer should take over 5 years to write a book, no matter how long it is. Well, he admitted that it's his fault and his fault only. I just won't wait for him to finish. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 11:54:59 GMT
I can't say it surprises me. I love the books and the show equally, so I'm going to take what's served first. And nothing could be worse than premature TWoW just to have it released before the show. As for spoilers: I don't really care. I had Joffrey's and Jon's death spoiled because I read the wiki while wathcing S3. I want to know how it happens, what happens is secondary to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 11:59:22 GMT
Just imagine if GrrM's huge end-of-the-year post hadn't glitched out and people had to sieve through the rest of the shit he wanted to say about the Hugos and whatnot to get to this info. I'm glad it went down like this actually. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 11:59:23 GMT
I feel bad for him. That much pressure is not good for a man his age and it would be a shame if the quality of his writing suffers because of those deadlines. Too late for that. The last two books were pretty flawed. He's in Stephen King mode where his success means he doesn't get strict editing. At this point, I'd rather see a rushed book than something like AFFC/ADWD which suffered from self-indulgence. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 12:00:44 GMT
I feel bad for him. That much pressure is not good for a man his age and it would be a shame if the quality of his writing suffers because of those deadlines. Too late for that. The last two books were pretty flawed. He's in Stephen King mode where his success means he doesn't get strict editing. At this point, I'd rather see a rushed book than something like AFFC/ADWD which suffered from self-indulgence. This so much. |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jan 2, 2016 12:01:12 GMT
For those who mentioned Theon, I'm going to be Mr. Pedantic here and point out that he could just be revising the chapter he already released He could be, but then I'd be genuinely annoyed with him if he's still stuck on a chapter from years ago. And the way he said it was if he was trying to say he was making progress. If he had been revising the same Theon chapter all this time I don't think he'd use that as his example of "Well, I am writing". Oh I was only being a dick, just ignore me Theon was always going to have at least one more POV as far as I was concerned. I'd also add that if he was revising that one, it wouldnt necessarily mean much in terms of progress, as revising/editing can occur at any time. He could be finished the book and still decide to go back and edit it. Or maybe he wrote another scene later in the book and decided he had to add something to an earlier chapter to drop clues or something. but again, not important, I was just being an irritant |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jan 2, 2016 12:03:11 GMT
it's likely not that chapter he's talking about, but he doesn't write in order so him working on a Theon chapter now doesn't really mean much for his survival prospects other than he (probably) has at least 2 chapters in the book Knowing Theon has at least two chapters is still something. He could've died right after his first chapter in Asha's PoV, since people who die for realsies don't do so in their own PoV. I didn't really think it would happen that soon, but it's still nice to know. Oh no, a Quentyn lives theorist!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 12:03:31 GMT
Too late for that. The last two books were pretty flawed. He's in Stephen King mode where his success means he doesn't get strict editing. At this point, I'd rather see a rushed book than something like AFFC/ADWD which suffered from self-indulgence. This so much. He took his time with AFFC and ADWD, maybe he should be rush things instead. Sometimes creativity needs restraints. |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jan 2, 2016 12:05:42 GMT
Knowing Theon has at least two chapters is still something. He could've died right after his first chapter in Asha's PoV, since people who die for realsies don't do so in their own PoV. I didn't really think it would happen that soon, but it's still nice to know. Oh no, a Quentyn lives theorist! Um, no, Quent dies in Barry's PoV after being in agony from his burns for days. Get it together if you're gonna try to be a pedant. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 12:06:14 GMT
Knowing Theon has at least two chapters is still something. He could've died right after his first chapter in Asha's PoV, since people who die for realsies don't do so in their own PoV. I didn't really think it would happen that soon, but it's still nice to know. Oh no, a Quentyn lives theorist! please god no. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 12:07:06 GMT
Catelyn died for real in her own POV.
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I love the show too, don't get me wrong, but I hate the idea of never being able to read the end of this story in one of grrm's books.
I bet segments of the fandom are cursing the fucking puppies all to hell 
