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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Sept 13, 2017 10:23:10 GMT
Father of Dragons There's a theory that Melisandre is going to the Red Temple to gather the Fiery Hand, an army of slave soldiers in service to the Lord of Light. That'd be pretty dope. I think we'll at least get one scene of her in Volantis. We've already seen the city before, so they wouldn't have to start from scratch, if they even bother with an outdoor establishing shot. Have her come back, talk to Kinvara, and do whatever it is she went there to do. I think D&D sent her there for a reason, otherwise why bother? There's no point in her dramatically saying she's going to Volantis, and then the next time we see her, she's already back. If she wasn't gonna do anything there, why bother having her go? She could have just went and found somewhere to lurk in the Riverlands or something until she inevitably reunites with Jon and Davos. No point in her going if she's gonna not do anything interesting and then just come back IMO. But then again I'm wrong about 95% of the time soooo idk. I don't really think the Fiery Hand would add anything that would justify their inclusion, especially when there's only six episodes left. They could look pretty cool but really it's just a few hundred more soldiers for their army which isn't really going to change anything. If anything comes of Mel's trip to Volantis (and sadly at this point I think the chances are 50/50 it's just forgotten about) it will probably be magic related or possibly will see her cross paths with Euron and the Golden Company. One idea I've seen that I do like is Mel returning to Westeros as the old woman she is in order to hide from Davis and Jon but still try and advise/help them somehow. It would be a nice payoff for the revelation last season. However, problem with that idea is Carice. If Mel is back I doubt they want to hide Carice away under make-up and prosthetics all season (which is time consuming and expensive) or bring in another actress to portray her (can't recall how they achieved the look in season 6). So while I like the idea I see the difficulty with it.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Sept 16, 2017 22:36:14 GMT
i've just been informed that people think cersei's baby is actually euron's, and idk how i feel about that lol
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Sept 16, 2017 23:15:30 GMT
i've just been informed that people think cersei's baby is actually euron's, and idk how i feel about that lol You should feel that people are stupid. Absolutely nothi has suggested the baby is anyone's but Jamie's, or even that Cersei may have had sex with anyone else. This fandom sometimes baffles me with their constant need to make a convoluted mess out of even the most straightforward of plot points
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Post by TheMadQueen on Sept 16, 2017 23:17:38 GMT
i've just been informed that people think cersei's baby is actually euron's, and idk how i feel about that lol You should feel that people are stupid. Absolutely nothi has suggested the baby is anyone's but Jamie's, or even that Cersei may have had sex with anyone else. This fandom sometimes baffles me with their constant need to make a convoluted mess out of even the most straightforward of plot points tbh i would have preferred if she was fucking euron all season instead of jaime.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Sept 17, 2017 0:11:01 GMT
I wish show Euron would just disappear without a trace so I can't agree there
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Post by TheMadQueen on Sept 17, 2017 0:18:21 GMT
I wish show Euron would just disappear without a trace so I can't agree there
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 23:01:19 GMT
Bran has to warg/skinchange into the night's king to kill him or change something in the past. I think Bran might die this season, i just don't see his story leading to anything else. Either dead or magic-less.
Sansa and Arya work together to keep people working together when the long night comes, Arya will finally reunite with Jon. Arya will be very suspicious of Dany, and will fall in love with the dragons.
Dany and Jon will take a front seat when they arrive at Winterfell. They will gather the people, Jaime will be trialed and Brienne will stand witness to his character. Tyrion will also vouch for him.
Sam and Bran will work together to figure out how to defeat the Night's King. I think the Night's King will be defeated first and the last half of the season will deal with Cersei/Euron.
Euron will betray Cersei, i think he'll bring the golden company to Dany. Or Theon catches Euron in Essos and frees Yara, kills euron and brings the Greyjoy army to Dany. They then work to defeat Cersei.
When Jaime tells Jon that Cersei isn't coming, Jon and Dany pledge to deal with her after the war. In this part of the season, Jaime, Sandor and others head to KL for a final stand.
Cersei might die at childbirth. I'm not entirely sure that Jaime or anyone else will do that.
Dany will live through the Night King war, but she'll (not 100% on this) die in childbirth, common in the Targaryen family. If she and Jon live, which i think is likely, they'll rule their own kingdom.
The war will devastate KL and it will be known as the 'old capital'.
I also think we'll see more of Rhaeger and Lyanna and what actually happened in the past. i think half an episode should be dedicated to it.
Who will die?
Cersei, Jaime, Gendry, Davos, Beric, Tormund, Bran, Meera, Melisandre, Euron, Theon, Yara, Gregor clegane, Qyburn, Varys, Sandor (after killing Gregor), Brienne, Dany, Jorah, Grey Worm, Missandei.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Sept 17, 2017 23:27:26 GMT
^^I'm expecting the Stark sisters to be wary of Jaime as well, but I'm sure Brienne and Tyrion will come to his defense.
All I know is I want a scene of Cersei cutting herself on the Iron Throne.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 12:57:55 GMT
My thoughts really are a bumbling mess at this point. I need to rewatch the whole season, maybe even the whole series to get more clues.
Yeh i think Sansa, Arya and Bran will provide evidence of Jaime's crimes. I can see another Jaime redemption coming and i'm so excited because they really didn't handle him well from seasons 4-6.
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Post by DaveyJoe on Sept 18, 2017 17:18:12 GMT
With the way things went with Littlefinger I don't expect Jaime to survive being a house guest of the Starks.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Sept 18, 2017 17:42:31 GMT
Arya saw Jaime at the Twins and didn't try to kill him, so maybe she has no beef with Jaime. Or maybe she just didn't recognize him.
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Post by DaveyJoe on Sept 18, 2017 18:05:45 GMT
Arya saw Jaime at the Twins and didn't try to kill him, so maybe she has no beef with Jaime. Or maybe she just didn't recognize him. But Arya and Sansa are murdering people that their brother tells them to, so why wouldn't Bran want Jaime dead? Maybe he'll order the hit but conveniently look up 3ER data that Jaime is a good person right before the Finale.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Sept 18, 2017 18:13:24 GMT
Arya saw Jaime at the Twins and didn't try to kill him, so maybe she has no beef with Jaime. Or maybe she just didn't recognize him. But Arya and Sansa are murdering people that their brother tells them to, so why wouldn't Bran want Jaime dead? Maybe he'll order the hit but conveniently look up 3ER data that Jaime is a good person right before the Finale. Jon outweighs Bran. Jaime enters the North in good faith, intending to keep his honor and join their cause, Jon will welcome him. He's there to do what he was invited to do, Jon's not gonna allow him to be executed for keeping is promise. Besides, Tyrion and Brienne will vouch for his character. Unless Arya goes rogue and cuts Jaime's throat while he's sleeping (she wouldn't), Jaime will be safe IMO.
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Post by Father of Dragons on Sept 18, 2017 18:37:34 GMT
Arya saw Jaime at the Twins and didn't try to kill him, so maybe she has no beef with Jaime. Or maybe she just didn't recognize him. But Arya and Sansa are murdering people that their brother tells them to, so why wouldn't Bran want Jaime dead? Maybe he'll order the hit but conveniently look up 3ER data that Jaime is a good person right before the Finale. The 3ER won't care. "Bran" died in the cave. He'll read up Jaime's wiki page to see that he's actually a good guy and then they'll move on.
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Post by DaveyJoe on Sept 18, 2017 19:29:18 GMT
First they came for Walder Frey, and I did not speak out, because I am not a Frey fan.
Then they came for Littlefinger, and I did not speak out, because I am not a Baelish fan.
Then they came for Jaime Lannister, but it was too late, because Arya's writing has been shite for some time.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Sept 18, 2017 19:51:47 GMT
If Arya kills Jaime, I will eat my own ass.
She was ready to rip Sansa's face off when she suspected Sansa wasn't loyal to Jon. I just don't see her going against Jon, who wanted the truce with the Lannisters in the first place.
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Post by Father of Dragons on Sept 18, 2017 20:20:14 GMT
I've come to the conclusion that if Arya kills any other major character, I'm gonna be annoyed. Like some people are saying Cersei, or the NK, or - most likely - Melisandre, and I really don't want to see any of that happen.
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Post by kingeomer on Sept 19, 2017 12:08:55 GMT
I've come to the conclusion that if Arya kills any other major character, I'm gonna be annoyed. Like some people are saying Cersei, or the NK, or - most likely - Melisandre, and I really don't want to see any of that happen. I feel like it's been done enough, honestly. We need to find a path for Arya that isn't stone cold assassin. I just don't think the show is interested in developing her beyond that. If Jaime were to die and I think he will (I think a lot of characters will next season)...he will either die protecting (full circle, y'all) or protecting the realm (another full circle y'all...kills Aerys to protect Kings Landing, sacrifices himself to protect the realm).
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Post by Father of Dragons on Sept 19, 2017 14:00:43 GMT
I've come to the conclusion that if Arya kills any other major character, I'm gonna be annoyed. Like some people are saying Cersei, or the NK, or - most likely - Melisandre, and I really don't want to see any of that happen. I feel like it's been done enough, honestly. We need to find a path for Arya that isn't stone cold assassin. I just don't think the show is interested in developing her beyond that. If Jaime were to die and I think he will (I think a lot of characters will next season)...he will either die protecting (full circle, y'all) or protecting the realm (another full circle y'all...kills Aerys to protect Kings Landing, sacrifices himself to protect the realm). I agree. It seems the showrunners would rather make her a "badass" killer than deal with any issues like loss of identity that the books do(/are doing). That was made kinda evident when, after she killed Walder Frey, they had a long, 7-second shot of her almost looking at the camera. Then there's the "mic drop" moment in 701. Good lines, but hate that they happened at all.
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Post by DaveyJoe on Sept 19, 2017 18:11:10 GMT
We can make all the predictions based off of logical outcomes we want, but it's obvious now that the writers are happy to force a square peg into a round hole if it leads to a crowd-pleasing moment, which is the type of storytelling that has no place in ASOIAF.
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