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Post by Admin on Oct 10, 2016 4:07:09 GMT
WOOO!
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Post by Admin on Oct 10, 2016 10:58:24 GMT
oh mah God (cool theory below):
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Post by kingeomer on Oct 10, 2016 12:31:55 GMT
Watched the second episode. Definitely a good one. Both the husband and I liked it. I might be watching the Walking Dead on delay for this one.
I have to catch up on the theories now that I'm caught up with the show. I do agree the robots/ "hosts" are going to rebel and it's going to be beautiful when they do.
Ed Harris plays a terrific villain. It's quite disturbing that people want to take a vacation where they can rape and kill people, even if those people aren't real...
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Post by Admin on Oct 10, 2016 12:35:58 GMT
Watched the second episode. Definitely a good one. Both the husband and I liked it. I might be watching the Walking Dead on delay for this one. I have to catch up on the theories now that I'm caught up with the show. I do agree the robots/ "hosts" are going to rebel and it's going to be beautiful when they do. Ed Harris plays a terrific villain. It's quite disturbing that people want to take a vacation where they can rape and kill people, even if those people aren't real... Yeah it is disturbing even to me  I felt so bad for Teddy, Maeve and that old guy this episode. They need to make humans nicer if they want people to have trouble who to root for Harris is so awesome. That dancing bit was chilling! |
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Post by boojam on Oct 10, 2016 15:26:23 GMT
I did see it in 1973. I never understood Michael Crichton's success, his science fiction always was more like fictionalized Popular Mechanics , pulpy narrative and thin characters. He only made or wrote one thing I like The Great Train Robbery , and considering what he did after that I am at loss to explain the excellence of that film. Westworld 1973 is good work for someone without any background in film, still it had clumsy staging , awkward pacing and a neophyte's tone. One thing about HBO's Westworld , it seems, that this 'Disney-world' (that was the original inspiration too) has an motivation much deeper than an 'entertainment' .(By, by, I would not pay the high fee demanded for this kind of arrested adolescence cos-play, that's a puzzling element about the theme park.) I can only guess that the androids have some kind of destination as weaponized do dads. That sure trumps Crichton. When you mentioned Crichton, I thought you meant a book, duh. My husband enjoys that genre of pulpy scifi. I'm not really into it either, which is why I haven't bothered to watch it yet. Do you think seeing it would add or detract from the HBO series at all? The main reason I find this show so disturbing is the very notion that someone would want to go somewhere and act out fantasies of rape and murder on lifelike robots. Maybe that makes me a Pollyanna. I think I get rage and impulses and whatnot, but this kind of vacation would not appeal to me. "Online research," however, tells me that many many people would like that very thing. Crichton has 7 full film directorial credits, listed at IMDB. I have seen them all except Pursuit. All are sort of programmers , competent enough but not particularity compelling.... except The Great Train Robbery, which is a total anomaly. Maybe he transformed him self for that movie and then fell back a few notches. I have never read his novel from which it is adapted. A quick search does not tell me why Crichton stopped directing. Probably to concentrate on novels. Well the 1973 movie is totally different even if the whole skeleton of the current HBO story is there. Even the Yul Brynner character seems somewhat a comic entity totally different form Ed Harris's character here. Goodness I had forgotten James Brolin and Majel Barrett were in that 1973 film. |
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Post by Admin on Oct 10, 2016 19:26:49 GMT
my recap is up  |
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Post by Basil on Oct 10, 2016 19:39:17 GMT
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Post by Admin on Oct 10, 2016 19:55:21 GMT
New featurette with new footage and a confirmation that:
1. the show is set in 21st century
2. the boy Ford saw is a host
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Post by kingeomer on Oct 10, 2016 20:20:40 GMT
Watched the second episode. Definitely a good one. Both the husband and I liked it. I might be watching the Walking Dead on delay for this one. I have to catch up on the theories now that I'm caught up with the show. I do agree the robots/ "hosts" are going to rebel and it's going to be beautiful when they do. Ed Harris plays a terrific villain. It's quite disturbing that people want to take a vacation where they can rape and kill people, even if those people aren't real... Yeah it is disturbing even to me I felt so bad for Teddy, Maeve and that old guy this episode. They need to make humans nicer if they want people to have trouble who to root for Harris is so awesome. That dancing bit was chilling! Hopefully William will turn out to be the "nice" human. The rest have been awful. Thank you for that video. I was wondering about the boy. I thought he was going to turn out to be the young version of Anthony Hopkins character. I will read your recap tonight. Glad you are recapping the show! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 20:53:21 GMT
When you mentioned Crichton, I thought you meant a book, duh. My husband enjoys that genre of pulpy scifi. I'm not really into it either, which is why I haven't bothered to watch it yet. Do you think seeing it would add or detract from the HBO series at all? The main reason I find this show so disturbing is the very notion that someone would want to go somewhere and act out fantasies of rape and murder on lifelike robots. Maybe that makes me a Pollyanna. I think I get rage and impulses and whatnot, but this kind of vacation would not appeal to me. "Online research," however, tells me that many many people would like that very thing. Crichton has 7 full film directorial credits, listed at IMDB. I have seen them all except Pursuit. All are sort of programmers , competent enough but not particularity compelling.... except The Great Train Robbery, which is a total anomaly. Maybe he transformed him self for that movie and then fell back a few notches. I have never read his novel from which it is adapted. A quick search does not tell me why Crichton stopped directing. Probably to concentrate on novels. Well the 1973 movie is totally different even if the whole skeleton of the current HBO story is there. Even the Yul Brynner character seems somewhat a comic entity totally different form Ed Harris's character here. Goodness I had forgotten James Brolin and Majel Barrett were in that 1973 film. Just read this on Wikipedia: In 1994, Crichton became the only creative artist ever to have works simultaneously charting at No. 1 in US television (ER), film (Jurassic Park), and book sales (Disclosure).[1] I'm not sure how I missed that he so involved in all three. I forgot about The Andromeda Strain. I really do love that movie. |
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Post by Admin on Oct 10, 2016 21:11:40 GMT
Yeah it is disturbing even to me I felt so bad for Teddy, Maeve and that old guy this episode. They need to make humans nicer if they want people to have trouble who to root for Harris is so awesome. That dancing bit was chilling! Hopefully William will turn out to be the "nice" human. The rest have been awful. Thank you for that video. I was wondering about the boy. I thought he was going to turn out to be the young version of Anthony Hopkins character. I will read your recap tonight. Glad you are recapping the show! There is the theory floating around that William is in the past storyline (which I think is plausible) and is gonna be revealed to be younger Man in Black (which I do not buy as he looks nothing like Ed Harris) |
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Post by kingeomer on Oct 11, 2016 12:44:43 GMT
Hopefully William will turn out to be the "nice" human. The rest have been awful. Thank you for that video. I was wondering about the boy. I thought he was going to turn out to be the young version of Anthony Hopkins character. I will read your recap tonight. Glad you are recapping the show! There is the theory floating around that William is in the past storyline (which I think is plausible) and is gonna be revealed to be younger Man in Black (which I do not buy as he looks nothing like Ed Harris) I have to agree with you...he's in a previous storyline but I hope he is not the younger man in black. No. We need a good human there. |
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Post by Admin on Oct 11, 2016 12:49:33 GMT
There is the theory floating around that William is in the past storyline (which I think is plausible) and is gonna be revealed to be younger Man in Black (which I do not buy as he looks nothing like Ed Harris) I have to agree with you...he's in a previous storyline but I hope he is not the younger man in black. No. We need a good human there. A reviewer from Slate said William=MiB is not true -he saw 4 eps so they either interact or we find out MiB's identity. Or Will dies. Or Slate reviewer just assumes it is not true- I've read his review and that dude aint bright. I really dont want MiB=Will to happen because it's too cheap and easy but 2 time frames idea I like |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Oct 11, 2016 23:01:12 GMT
New featurette with new footage and a confirmation that: 1. the show is set in 21st century 2. the boy Ford saw is a host I thought the boy Ford saw was a host based on Ford as a child. But that was just my initial impression after finishing the episode five minutes ago, I haven't thought it through |
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Post by Admin on Oct 12, 2016 9:37:02 GMT
TFW Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford is in your all time top 20 favorite movies and yet you didn't catch that  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 0:17:07 GMT
I finally watched the second episode. Wow. I actually had one of my little fainting spells when Maeve wakes up with her abdomen open and gets up and starts running down the hall. Waking up during surgery with my body cavity open and bleeding out is one of my weird fears, so yay...blech. So, I had to pause it for a day and come back and finish. Wow...wow! I'm not convinced, but thinking that maybe the MIB is an advanced robot and that he either went rogue on his own or Ford screwed with him and made him go rogue. To what end, I'm not sure. I think the maze he's looking for is the entrance to the lab where they're making and repairing the hosts, and he remembers being there. It would be confusing and maze-like. Obvious problems with the idea are that he knows about the outside world and claims to have come from there. Also, he can kill hosts, and they can't kill him. Knowledge of the outside could easily be implanted. I'm not sure how the host/guest murder thing works anyway, so I'll have to wait and see about that. |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Oct 15, 2016 1:04:21 GMT
Maeve was superb last episode. I find her fascinating. One thing I wondered, was the line Dolores said to her (the same one her father said) some kind of trigger for Maeve to start glitching and becoming self aware and such? Seems like it could be some kind of 'key', since it could realistically be what Dolres' father whispered to her
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 6:56:57 GMT
i've seen the first episode! I like it, but i have seen the original movie, i feel like the TV series is going way more dark with it. Especially what the guests are getting up to.
Dolorous is definitely aware of past events!
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Oct 15, 2016 10:12:35 GMT
i've seen the first episode! I like it, but i have seen the original movie, i feel like the TV series is going way more dark with it. Especially what the guests are getting up to. Dolorous is definitely aware of past events! From what I gathered talking to people who have seen the movie, they are set in different times to each other; the movie when the park first opens, this show after some 30 years or so. That's not to say this is a sequel, but it would account for the difference in behaviour of the Guests (once something is done once it becomes less taboo and they begin looking for more and more depraved stuff) |
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Post by Admin on Oct 15, 2016 14:52:16 GMT
I finally watched the second episode. Wow. I actually had one of my little fainting spells when Maeve wakes up with her abdomen open and gets up and starts running down the hall. Waking up during surgery with my body cavity open and bleeding out is one of my weird fears, so yay...blech. So, I had to pause it for a day and come back and finish. Wow...wow! I'm not convinced, but thinking that maybe the MIB is an advanced robot and that he either went rogue on his own or Ford screwed with him and made him go rogue. To what end, I'm not sure. I think the maze he's looking for is the entrance to the lab where they're making and repairing the hosts, and he remembers being there. It would be confusing and maze-like. Obvious problems with the idea are that he knows about the outside world and claims to have come from there. Also, he can kill hosts, and they can't kill him. Knowledge of the outside could easily be implanted. I'm not sure how the host/guest murder thing works anyway, so I'll have to wait and see about that. I think he is a guest, Nolan said he is one and Hemsworth 3 says 'this gentleman gets whatever he wants'. Sure Nolan can be lying but I don't think so, the not being able to shoot him part seems quite evident here and points to him being human Maeve was superb last episode. I find her fascinating. One thing I wondered, was the line Dolores said to her (the same one her father said) some kind of trigger for Maeve to start glitching and becoming self aware and such? Seems like it could be some kind of 'key', since it could realistically be what Dolres' father whispered to her Yeah it looks like a command that causes a glitch - in Dolores allows her to swat the fly and in Maeve accesses her memories |
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I felt so bad for Teddy, Maeve and that old guy this episode. They need to make humans nicer if they want people to have trouble who to root for
