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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 19, 2016 14:34:20 GMT
After her public disgrace, Cersei's misery is only added to by the news of her daughter Myrcella's death. Shut out from the small council, abandoned by her son, and mocked by the common people, Cersei struggles to regain control. Her scheme to win her trial is thwarted by her own son, now thoroughly devoted to her enemy the High Sparrow. Desperate times call for desparate measures, however, and on the day of her trial, she watches as the Great Sept of Baelor goes up in flames, killing all her enemies and a great deal of others too. Her victory is short lived, when the very thing that gave her such joy causes her son to kill himself. In the wake of the death of King Tommen, Cersei ascends the throne as the first ruling Queen of Westeros.
Yeah.
Next season should be an interesting one for her. She has everything she ever wanted, but has no one to share it with. The Mad Queen is here to stay, so I think we can expect more ruthless displays like what happened at the Sept. Jaime did not seem too pleased with what was left of King's Landing, so that should be interesting to see play out. And how long may she reign? She's got dragons in the east, zombies in the North, and snakes in the south, all gunning for her. Will the rest King's Landing burn, perhaps?
What do you guys think?
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Post by Admin on Jul 19, 2016 15:12:46 GMT
I think the reign of terror will be creepy as hell and Qyburn gonna get those people gifts at last
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Post by kingeomer on Jul 19, 2016 18:38:20 GMT
I won't be surprised if the rest of Kings Landing burns. Considering that Jaime killed Aerys to avoid just that from happening, it would ironic if he cannot stop his sister from doing the same thing.
It's too rich of a storyline to have Cersei's reign over quickly, so I think she and Dany face off at the end of season 7. I think we see her trying to get some allies, because she desperately needs them. She has to know she cannot count on the Tyrells or Martells, because they hate her. The north isn't going bother with her. And the riverlands might be forced into serving her...but we don't know the true state of disarray they might be in after Walder Frey's death. Same with Casterly Rock, do the surviving Lannisters and their allies support her after Kevan and Lancel's deaths?
The free agent here is Euron though. Does he decide to make himself a King through Cersei or Dany?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 12:27:31 GMT
I won't be surprised if the rest of Kings Landing burns. Considering that Jaime killed Aerys to avoid just that from happening, it would ironic if he cannot stop his sister from doing the same thing. It's too rich of a storyline to have Cersei's reign over quickly, so I think she and Dany face off at the end of season 7. I think we see her trying to get some allies, because she desperately needs them. She has to know she cannot count on the Tyrells or Martells, because they hate her. The north isn't going bother with her. And the riverlands might be forced into serving her...but we don't know the true state of disarray they might be in after Walder Frey's death. Same with Casterly Rock, do the surviving Lannisters and their allies support her after Kevan and Lancel's deaths? The free agent here is Euron though. Does he decide to make himself a King through Cersei or Dany? I think he'll learn that Dany is teamed up with Yara and Theon, so he'll make a move on Cersei. But Cersei is NOT going to want to share power with another man after finally becoming queen in her own right. He will have to give her something extremely valuable to make it worth her while. I guess maybe just ships once she finds out Dany's army is on its way. Or maybe a dragon horn... It's going to be interesting.
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 20, 2016 12:54:40 GMT
Yeah, if Euron tries to ally with Cersei, she's going to make him work for it. I'm looking forward to her reign. Give me all that crazy.
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Post by Admin on Jul 20, 2016 20:26:27 GMT
I still wonder what that rumoured parade in KL will be...can Cersei enforce people to celebrate? Freaking out entire throne room to not riot is one thing, but the whole city?
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 20, 2016 22:17:03 GMT
I still wonder what that rumoured parade in KL will be...can Cersei enforce people to celebrate? Freaking out entire throne room to not riot is one thing, but the whole city? Yeah that scene is such a mystery to me. What could it be? No weddings I can think of. Tommen's funeral is already over. No walks of shame. I guess it could be some like Cersei rally or something, but I fee like with the limited time they have this year, it's gonna need to be a big deal for them to include it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 1:32:00 GMT
I don't know. Euron seems pretty willful and Cersei is the one in the bad position. She has the lannister army and KL but Euron has ships and Dany outnumbers everyone. Euron could probably easily take KL from Cersei and i think she may be forced to make an alliance or flee to Casterly Rock. I don't know why but i have a feeling Cersei meets her end in Casterly Rock. I could be wrong though because on the show Jaime is with her now and it would make sense to just have her die in KL instead of opening up a new location unless they use that in season 8.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 24, 2016 23:21:12 GMT
People had some awesome ideas about why there would be a bunch of stone eye props being made for season seven. The general consensus is that the commoners/surviving Faith Militant make them and display them as a means of mourning the High Sparrow and protesting Queen Cersei. Placing them around the ruins of the Sept, lining the streets with them, etc.
I imagine Cersei will receive quite a bit of blowback after her slaughter of an entire power structure, so it's nice to see the resistance she'll be facing.
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Post by Singer of Death on Jul 24, 2016 23:31:26 GMT
I don't know. Euron seems pretty willful and Cersei is the one in the bad position. She has the lannister army and KL but Euron has ships and Dany outnumbers everyone. Euron could probably easily take KL from Cersei and i think she may be forced to make an alliance or flee to Casterly Rock. I don't know why but i have a feeling Cersei meets her end in Casterly Rock. I could be wrong though because on the show Jaime is with her now and it would make sense to just have her die in KL instead of opening up a new location unless they use that in season 8. Crazy, wacky idea i have is that Euron is going to help Cersei fled to Casterly Rock quickly is by offering her a dragon ride.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 25, 2016 22:56:04 GMT
The teaser showed a war table with Lannister and Greyjoy emblems around Dorne, so that I guess confirms we will see them involved in a conflict in some capacity.
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Post by Admin on Jul 26, 2016 6:09:25 GMT
The teaser showed a war table with Lannister and Greyjoy emblems around Dorne, so that I guess confirms we will see them involved in a conflict in some capacity. Hm, then I guess Cersei must either send them very soon to Dorne or she doesn't hear about Dany's sailing? Otherwise she would keep the army in the city And what about Euron? His primary objective now is to go to Dany...but if he goes to her and then goes to Cersei, Cersei would know about Dany, hence she wouldn't send the army to Dorne... I confused myself
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Post by TheMadQueen on Aug 10, 2016 5:00:42 GMT
I wonder just how crazy Cersei will actually be. While she's definitely a little unhinged, I'm starting to question if she's genuinely insane or just really, really, really mean. I'm sure it's a combo of both, but I think they're trying to make her more like Tywin and less like Joffrey.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 12:47:02 GMT
I don't know. Euron seems pretty willful and Cersei is the one in the bad position. She has the lannister army and KL but Euron has ships and Dany outnumbers everyone. Euron could probably easily take KL from Cersei and i think she may be forced to make an alliance or flee to Casterly Rock. I don't know why but i have a feeling Cersei meets her end in Casterly Rock. I could be wrong though because on the show Jaime is with her now and it would make sense to just have her die in KL instead of opening up a new location unless they use that in season 8. Crazy, wacky idea i have is that Euron is going to help Cersei fled to Casterly Rock quickly is by offering her a dragon ride. I really can't see this happening, but I kind of love the idea.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 12:48:18 GMT
I wonder just how crazy Cersei will actually be. While she's definitely a little unhinged, I'm starting to question if she's genuinely insane or just really, really, really mean. I'm sure it's a combo of both, but I think they're trying to make her more like Tywin and less like Joffrey. I think she's Tywin with a streak of Joffrey. And now she has the sort of hatred that fueled LSH. Worst case scenario.
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Post by Belle on Aug 10, 2016 14:32:32 GMT
I wonder just how crazy Cersei will actually be. While she's definitely a little unhinged, I'm starting to question if she's genuinely insane or just really, really, really mean. I'm sure it's a combo of both, but I think they're trying to make her more like Tywin and less like Joffrey. agreed on this about show cersei. show cersei is pretty self aware and can admit to her mistakes to an extent. i think she's an extreme misanthrope who's become really hardened and bitter from all she's gone through and wants to burn the world just like it burned her. she's basically a more realistic malefiecient. book cersei on the other hand is genuienly mentally ill imo . by the end of AFFC, she is so so delusional. the walk of shame wakes her up a little bit, but she also hallucinates during her walk of shame which further prove how far gone she is :/. we never see those types of delusions in show cersei. unlike book cersei she has a concept of good vs bad, and can fully admit she's bad.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Aug 10, 2016 17:48:42 GMT
I wonder just how crazy Cersei will actually be. While she's definitely a little unhinged, I'm starting to question if she's genuinely insane or just really, really, really mean. I'm sure it's a combo of both, but I think they're trying to make her more like Tywin and less like Joffrey. agreed on this about show cersei. show cersei is pretty self aware and can admit to her mistakes to an extent. i think she's an extreme misanthrope who's become really hardened and bitter from all she's gone through and wants to burn the world just like it burned her. she's basically a more realistic malefiecient. book cersei on the other hand is genuienly mentally ill imo . by the end of AFFC, she is so so delusional. the walk of shame wakes her up a little bit, but she also hallucinates during her walk of shame which further prove how far gone she is :/. we never see those types of delusions in show cersei. unlike book cersei she has a concept of good vs bad, and can fully admit she's bad. Yeah in the show, she knows she's bad but she doesn't care. In the books, she genuinely doesn't think she's bad. I think Show Cersei is just so fucking bitter and aggressive and dead inside, it's literally just pure spite keeping her going. But side note, them giving Cersei like nightmare/hallucination sequences on the show is like a personal fantasy of mine.
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Post by Belle on Aug 10, 2016 19:11:02 GMT
agreed on this about show cersei. show cersei is pretty self aware and can admit to her mistakes to an extent. i think she's an extreme misanthrope who's become really hardened and bitter from all she's gone through and wants to burn the world just like it burned her. she's basically a more realistic malefiecient. book cersei on the other hand is genuienly mentally ill imo . by the end of AFFC, she is so so delusional. the walk of shame wakes her up a little bit, but she also hallucinates during her walk of shame which further prove how far gone she is :/. we never see those types of delusions in show cersei. unlike book cersei she has a concept of good vs bad, and can fully admit she's bad. Yeah in the show, she knows she's bad but she doesn't care. In the books, she genuinely doesn't think she's bad. I think Show Cersei is just so fucking bitter and aggressive and dead inside, it's literally just pure spite keeping her going. But side note, them giving Cersei like nightmare/hallucination sequences on the show is like a personal fantasy of mine. book cersei has no concept of morality imo. its just not something that exists at all in her world. and with her extreme paranoia, she just can't think this way because she thinks everyone is scheming against her. there are a couple of parts in AFFC, where i think her subconscious reveals that she know she's bad imo, but she could never ever actually admit something like that out loud let alone call herself a "monster". she sees herself as the hero of her own story imo and i guess to some extent she is because she does have legit grievances but a lot of her actions are just unforgivable and book cersei could never admit to that imo. yeah i think the walk of shame and myrcella dying made show cersei just go "fuck it now i'm gonna be an even bigger monster that everyone thought i already was". yeah i would ahve loved to see show cersei having the nightmares that book cersei has in AFFC, as well as the walk of shame hallucinations. but i guess i should just be grateful we got a flashblack lol. do you think show cersei will break at all next season? D&D keep saying she's "dead" inside so i don't expect to see much emotion from her, but i also just really want to see her cry harder than she's ever cried before she inevitably destroys the iron throne lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 19:17:14 GMT
Yeah in the show, she knows she's bad but she doesn't care. In the books, she genuinely doesn't think she's bad. I think Show Cersei is just so fucking bitter and aggressive and dead inside, it's literally just pure spite keeping her going. But side note, them giving Cersei like nightmare/hallucination sequences on the show is like a personal fantasy of mine. book cersei has no concept of morality imo. its just not something that exists at all in her world. and with her extreme paranoia, she just can't think this way because she thinks everyone is scheming against her. there are a couple of parts in AFFC, where i think her subconscious reveals that she know she's bad imo, but she could never ever actually admit something like that out loud let alone call herself a "monster". she sees herself as the hero of her own story imo and i guess to some extent she is because she does have legit grievances but a lot of her actions are just unforgivable and book cersei could never admit to that imo. yeah i think the walk of shame and myrcella dying made show cersei just go "fuck it now i'm gonna be an even bigger monster that everyone thought i already was". yeah i would ahve loved to see show cersei having the nightmares that book cersei has in AFFC, as well as the walk of shame hallucinations. but i guess i should just be grateful we got a flashblack lol. do you think show cersei will break at all next season? D&D keep saying she's "dead" inside so i don't expect to see much emotion from her, but i also just really want to see her cry harder than she's ever cried before she inevitably destroys the iron throne lol There were moments when she was in prison when I thought we would see her go mad. I'd still like to see that happen right before she dies. LOL
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Post by TheMadQueen on Aug 11, 2016 1:13:33 GMT
Yeah in the show, she knows she's bad but she doesn't care. In the books, she genuinely doesn't think she's bad. I think Show Cersei is just so fucking bitter and aggressive and dead inside, it's literally just pure spite keeping her going. But side note, them giving Cersei like nightmare/hallucination sequences on the show is like a personal fantasy of mine. book cersei has no concept of morality imo. its just not something that exists at all in her world. and with her extreme paranoia, she just can't think this way because she thinks everyone is scheming against her. there are a couple of parts in AFFC, where i think her subconscious reveals that she know she's bad imo, but she could never ever actually admit something like that out loud let alone call herself a "monster". she sees herself as the hero of her own story imo and i guess to some extent she is because she does have legit grievances but a lot of her actions are just unforgivable and book cersei could never admit to that imo. yeah i think the walk of shame and myrcella dying made show cersei just go "fuck it now i'm gonna be an even bigger monster that everyone thought i already was". yeah i would ahve loved to see show cersei having the nightmares that book cersei has in AFFC, as well as the walk of shame hallucinations. but i guess i should just be grateful we got a flashblack lol. do you think show cersei will break at all next season? D&D keep saying she's "dead" inside so i don't expect to see much emotion from her, but i also just really want to see her cry harder than she's ever cried before she inevitably destroys the iron throne lol I agree with everything you said lol. I think this year was Cersei embracing the cruelty she's always had inside her. As for next season, I think we will see her as a very cruel and ruthless ruler. Once she finds out Tyrion is coming for her, I'm sure she'll get some pep in her step and focus all her rage at defeating Daenerys.
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