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Jun 13, 2016 2:52:32 GMT
Post by mandzipop on Jun 13, 2016 2:52:32 GMT
At 20 seconds Jon is looking down at the ground. I wonder who has died. Probably Rickon... I think you are right.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 13, 2016 2:51:17 GMT
I assume that Arya drank from the pool to heal herself. I wish they'd have cut 30 seconds from the drinking game to show how Arya survived. I wonder if Jaqen needs Arya to keep her identity for a mission. I wonder if he sent the Waif to kill Arya so that the Waif could use Arya's face for the mission, and should Arya beat the Waif, then Arya herself would do for the mission and it is possibly someone of Arya's list. Jaqen looked too pleased with the result to be happy to just let her go. I don't buy it. Maybe this continues the odd story , even book wise, of Jaqen knowing who she was before she told him. As if the FM's plan, some power in Braavos's plan, has succeeded. They want Aray back in Westeros or somewhere. I'm thinking they need Arya Stark's face and an assassin to wear it. They just didn't expect Arya herself to be the assassin.
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Jun 13, 2016 2:47:32 GMT
Post by mandzipop on Jun 13, 2016 2:47:32 GMT
At 20 seconds Jon is looking down at the ground. I wonder who has died.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 13, 2016 2:40:31 GMT
I loved episode 8, but the promo for episode 9 was better. Can we have a rate the promo?
HYYYYYYPPPPEEEEEEEE
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 13, 2016 2:35:24 GMT
I really enjoyed that episode. It was quite amusing in parts. It was obvious that Cersei would be denied trial by combat. Tommen has pretty much disowned her.
I assume that Arya drank from the pool to heal herself. I wish they'd have cut 30 seconds from the drinking game to show how Arya survived. I wonder if Jaqen needs Arya to keep her identity for a mission. I wonder if he sent the Waif to kill Arya so that the Waif could use Arya's face for the mission, and should Arya beat the Waif, then Arya herself would do for the mission and it is possibly someone of Arya's list. Jaqen looked too pleased with the result to be happy to just let her go. I don't buy it.
I enjoyed Jamie. Other than his Cersei love, I liked him being a total arse. I still have high hopes for Jamie and Brienne.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 13, 2016 2:15:28 GMT
The Waif reminded me of Terminator.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 13, 2016 0:28:50 GMT
Here we go Here we goooo... less than an hour til' showtime - I'm queued up and ready. Who all is doing live reactions tonight?! I'll have to hold off as usual until post show.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 12, 2016 11:16:36 GMT
Ok, so how does he have this knowledge? And how can he prove that this is true and not just something he made up to the satisfaction of Jon and everyone else? I don't think Rhaegar would have left Lyanna alone without either a maester or a midwife. So someone else was present. It could be a midwife/wetnurse. I'd assume her name to be Wylla. Wylla is currently at Starfall, so there is a good chance she came from Starfall in the first place. That suggests that there are people in Starfall who may have been in on the happenings at the ToJ. Someone was sending them supplies and someone told Ned where Lyanna was, Ashara would be my number one guess there. LF would do anything to put a wedge between Cat and Ned. Having his spies looking for Jon's mother is something I would expect LF to do as it is Ned's weakness. Like Stannis said, Ned's story about Jon's mother doesn't add up. It is a known fact that Ned returned Dawn to Starfall. That was around the time Jon appeared on the scene. LF would have had some information from Lysa. Cat may have told Lysa about the rumours of Ashara Dayne. LF sends his spies to Starfall and discovers the truth. It is very useful information but not much good for driving a wedge between Cat and Ned because it might do the opposite. However, the information would be useful to park for later plots. I'd be more shocked if LF and Varys didn't know. That goes for both book and show.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 12, 2016 0:47:47 GMT
If they had just started making the Harry Potter films now, she would be top of my list to play Hermione.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 12, 2016 0:31:34 GMT
Thank you. I recall Jonathan Pryce saying something like "literally everyone is there" so I'm hoping for a big turnout. I mean, who could resist going to see the trial of the century? If I lived in westeros, I would fucking be there lol. They probably advertised it as a great fireworks show. The hottest party in town.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 11, 2016 23:32:49 GMT
What about Wylla? I suspect she knows as well. It is unlikely that Lyanna gave birth to Jon alone. With LF's obsession with Cat and his dislike for Ned, I wouldn't be shocked if he'd done some snooping around with the intention of using Jon's mother against Ned to get Cat, however finding out that Jon wasn't Ned's son wouldn't have fit in with his plans. Alternatively, LF may have had suspicions and put 2 and 2 together like the rest of us but his confirmation comes when he sees Jon and Jon's physical appearance confirms LF's suspicion. To me, that isn't totally far-fetched in either circumstances. If Littlefinger had actually known anything he could use against Ned you can damn well bet he'd have played that card already, especially if it might win him favor with Catelyn. Holding that one over Ned's head would have been the stuff of dreams for Littlefinger. But no, not a word from him about it all these years. I can't imagine Littlefinger really knew and didn't use that to his advantage as great as it would be to have some leverage like that. But which would be worse for Cat? Ned having an affair or Ned taking in Lyanna's son? Plus I think it would be likely that LF (and probably Varys) may only suspect but cannot prove it until they see Jon. We don't know how much Jon looks like Rhaegar as we haven't had a monologue to confirm the connection, and to be fair, we haven't had much of a description of Jon in the books. LF made it clear that he got the picture of Rhaegar etched into his memory.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 11, 2016 23:05:24 GMT
I am of the opinion that it is not that absurd. Ned having a bastard is something that is very simple on that all person are hypocrites. Able to look past this does make he was protecting something plausible to me at least. It's one thing to suspect something. But he can't possibly "know". As in, he knows it for a fact. The only person in the books who *knows* is Howland Reed because he saw it with his own eyes. But no one else, other than Bran through a vision, could possibly know. If LF tells Jon this the first thing Jon should ask is "How do you know this?" And even Howland Reed would have trouble proving it, he knows, but how would he be able to convince any one else? How is LF going to prove it? "Ned was too honorable to father a bastard" is not proof. What about Wylla? I suspect she knows as well. It is unlikely that Lyanna gave birth to Jon alone. With LF's obsession with Cat and his dislike for Ned, I wouldn't be shocked if he'd done some snooping around with the intention of using Jon's mother against Ned to get Cat, however finding out that Jon wasn't Ned's son wouldn't have fit in with his plans. Alternatively, LF may have had suspicions and put 2 and 2 together like the rest of us but his confirmation comes when he sees Jon and Jon's physical appearance confirms LF's suspicion. To me, that isn't totally far-fetched in either circumstances.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 11, 2016 10:14:51 GMT
My speculation. The High Sparrow chooses his battles carefully and knows which fights he can't win. One of those battles is beating Frankenmountain. The High Sparrow knows that and if I was the High Sparrow, I wouldn't allow a trial by combat that involves Frankenmountain. The High Sparrow wants Cersei dead. My thoughts of how they can get around that are that the faith and the crown are aligned and that the Kingsguard are not allowed to fight the faith. Frankenmountain hasn't been stripped of his Kingsguard and because he can't talk he can't resign.I would expect the Faith to then produce their champion who, in my mind is likely to be Ser Loras. Jamie would be no good to her. The show can't use Bronn. So I think that Cersei not being allowed to use Frankenmountain is the announcement that is made.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 8, 2016 20:46:22 GMT
I'm confident that a good battle will bring Jon to his senses and give him renewed sense of purpose.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 7, 2016 23:53:22 GMT
I also want his curls back. Please Jon, lose the man bun.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 7, 2016 23:35:34 GMT
I used to like Jon's character, but now he's just annoying me. Is it cause he's being pessimetic and nihilistic about the whole "i don't want to go to war!"? No, he's just more wishy washy. Something is missing. He used to have a bit more about him. I saw a bit of Jon back when he was rallying the wildlings. It might be because he's intimidated by Sansa and he's out of his comfort zone. He's lost that cockiness. He's gone shy. I guess it is in line with the story that something would be missing. He needs something to make him whole again. I'd volunteer for that.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 7, 2016 23:18:05 GMT
I used to like Jon's character, but now he's just annoying me.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 7, 2016 10:39:26 GMT
I wonder if the faces are really for the trainees trainees. Those who are highly skilled do not need to take a face from the hall of faces. Maybe the upper management have the skill to skin change their appearance without the need for the faces in the hall of faces. Just from anyone who has drank from the water.
Speaking of which, how many drink from the water and survive? Maybe just the assassins themselves.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 6, 2016 4:16:09 GMT
It'd be interesting if Jaqen was wearing Arya's face in this episode, but I doubt it. That is what has been crossing my mind. It didn't seem like Arya. She's in hiding. She wouldn't be that bold. He'll have some of that water with him to recover from his injury.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 6, 2016 3:56:48 GMT
We also know that Varys and Olenna shot a scene together in the same spot all the Dorne shooting was going on (and Varys is leaving Meereen next episode). The only other explanation for them meeting was that they could have been shooting a King's Landing scene but since Olenna is leaving King's Landing, that's not an option anymore. Could they be doubling up for Highgarden?
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