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Post by kingeomer on Jul 19, 2016 18:24:08 GMT
#5 "most metal" It's like the most metal of death metal bands out there.
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 20, 2016 12:56:47 GMT
Snowbowl! A deserving winner.
I don't remember what I chose for best quote either. Whoops.
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Post by Admin on Jul 20, 2016 18:18:00 GMT
Favorite relationship5. Brienne x Tormund 4. Theon x Yara 3. Brienne x Jaime 2. Bran x Meera 1. Arya x Lady Crane
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Post by DaveyJoe on Jul 20, 2016 18:39:57 GMT
I don't know, I thought Yara was kind of abusive towards Theon this year.
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Post by Enid on Jul 20, 2016 19:07:23 GMT
Yay my fave won!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 19:38:05 GMT
I don't know, I thought Yara was kind of abusive towards Theon this year. I thought so too, but I guess her behavior was kind of lovey-dovey for an Ironborn sibling.
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Post by Admin on Jul 20, 2016 19:57:47 GMT
Well I'm not here to judge, i just count the votes and make the gifs
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Post by Belle on Jul 20, 2016 21:14:58 GMT
surprised jon/sansa didn't make best relationship. i did vote for theon and yara but i disliked the scene of them in volantis together.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 22:42:51 GMT
surprised jon/sansa didn't make best relationship. i did vote for theon and yara but i disliked the scene of them in volantis together. that was my favourite scene of them together! Yara loves theon but its presented as tough love...because she's ironborn I guess lol I'm glad bran and meera got on there
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jul 20, 2016 23:13:52 GMT
I don't know, I thought Yara was kind of abusive towards Theon this year. I thought it wasn't so much abusive as "tough love" which she knew would get through to them better. And at the end of the day, the two trusted and loved each other and worked together to achieve their aims and protect one another. They were pretty much the polar opposite of Sansa and Jon
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Post by Singer of Death on Jul 20, 2016 23:22:29 GMT
I'm more surprised about Arya and Lady Crane's relationship being the winnter of the category given ho much their storyline was push to such minority.
I agreed with some of others about Yara and Theon. Didn't like the way Yara treated Theon at Volantis.
Brienne and Jaime's relationship is the winner for me.
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Post by DaveyJoe on Jul 21, 2016 6:22:01 GMT
I don't know, I thought Yara was kind of abusive towards Theon this year. I thought so too, but I guess her behavior was kind of lovey-dovey for an Ironborn sibling. I don't know, I thought Yara was kind of abusive towards Theon this year. I thought it wasn't so much abusive as "tough love" which she knew would get through to them better. And at the end of the day, the two trusted and loved each other and worked together to achieve their aims and protect one another. They were pretty much the polar opposite of Sansa and Jon I think it goes beyond what you two are getting at. We have to consider their relationship up to this point. The scene from 2x08 is definitely a caring, tough-love approach from Yara, trying to talk some sense into Theon's thick skull. Yara obviously loves her brother, and in season 4 she goes as far as defying her father in a dangerous rescue attempt. The last time we see Yara, she declares her brother as dead. Yara, somebody who demonstrably loved her brother, officially gave up on him. When she sees Theon again in season 6, there's no sign of relief, but suspicion. She sees him as encroaching in on her turf to steal the Seastone Chair away from under her amazing ass. She doesn't give her brother a warm embrace and tell him how happy she is to see he's alive. She doesn't treat him with respect until he tells her what he can do for her. As her plea for the throne fails she whisks him away on a perilous voyage. In Volantis she minimizes the years of torture and mental anguish he went through and tells him to suck it up, or just end his life and quit being a burden. I think there's an arc between them that's going back towards a more loving relationship, but as of right now, it's incomplete, and she doesn't fully see him as her brother. In the final episode we could have had a scene completing that arc, but the final scene with Yara kind of pushes Theon to the side to establish the Homance between her and Dany. The tough-love Ironborn argument doesn't really work when you consider how quickly she agreed with Dany to abandon that way of life. She either never believed in it, or she's opportunistic now that somebody can give her the power she wants. I think there was a missed opportunity with providing some closure to that arc. As of right now, where they stand is kind of a dysfunctional relationship. It would be like voting for Jaime/Cersei as best relationship, which is certainly an interesting dynamic, but not what I'd call 'best.' Having said that, I voted Arya/Lady Crane. I'm glad Jon/Sansa wasn't even in the running. And Brienne/Tormund at #5 is also bogus, as that wasn't a relationship, but leering from a distance. That just shows how few positive relationships there are in this show.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 11:42:45 GMT
I thought so too, but I guess her behavior was kind of lovey-dovey for an Ironborn sibling. I thought it wasn't so much abusive as "tough love" which she knew would get through to them better. And at the end of the day, the two trusted and loved each other and worked together to achieve their aims and protect one another. They were pretty much the polar opposite of Sansa and Jon I think it goes beyond what you two are getting at. We have to consider their relationship up to this point. The scene from 2x08 is definitely a caring, tough-love approach from Yara, trying to talk some sense into Theon's thick skull. Yara obviously loves her brother, and in season 4 she goes as far as defying her brother in a dangerous rescue attempt. The last time we see Yara, she declares her brother as dead. Yara, somebody who demonstrably loved her brother, officially gave up on him. When she sees Theon again in season 6, there's no sign of relief, but suspicion. She sees him as encroaching in on her turf to steal the Seastone Chair away from under her amazing ass. She doesn't give her brother a warm embrace and tell him how happy she is to see he's alive. She doesn't treat him with respect until he tells her what he can do for her. As her plea for the throne fails she whisks him away on a perilous voyage. In Volantis she minimizes the years of torture and mental anguish he went through and tells him to suck it up, or just end his life and quit being a burden. I think there's an arc between them that's going back towards a more loving relationship, but as of right now, it's incomplete, and she doesn't fully see him as her brother. In the final episode we could have had a scene completing that arc, but the final scene with Yara kind of pushes Theon to the side to establish the Homance between her and Dany. The tough-love Ironborn argument doesn't really work when you consider how quickly she agreed with Dany to abandon that way of life. She either never believed in it, or she's opportunistic now that somebody can give her the power she wants. I think there was a missed opportunity with providing some closure to that arc. As of right now, where they stand is kind of a dysfunctional relationship. It would be like voting for Jaime/Cersei as best relationship, which is certainly an interesting dynamic, but not what I'd call 'best.' Having said that, I voted Arya/Lady Crane. I'm glad Jon/Sansa wasn't even in the running. And Brienne/Tormund at #5 is also bogus, as that wasn't a relationship, but leering from a distance. That just shows how few positive relationships there are in this show. Homance. I do see what you mean. On the one hand, Yara's behavior toward Theon fits right in to that world. No one really shows a lot of sympathy for people going through hell. Look at how Cersei greeted Jaime after he lost his hand. Look at how people ignore Arya, a bleeding child stumbling through the crowd. I think the problem is the way it's presented to the audience. WE feel for Arya and Jaime. But I think we're supposed to go along with this treatment of Theon and think it's fine and admire Yara. I didn't like it when Theon said he wasn't fit to rule and everyone just agreed. Why? Because he betrayed the Starks? Okay. Because he has PTSD and is forever broken....mmm, we wouldn't be okay seeing that said about Sansa or Arya. Because he doesn't have a dick? Well, that's just wrong. I voted for Jaime and Brienne. Best best friends/star-crossed lovers.
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 22, 2016 15:53:12 GMT
Arya and Lady Crane surprises me. I didn't expect that to be here, let alone win. I'm glad Jaime and Brienne and Bran and Meera are in there. Also Tormund and Brienne because that never stops being hilarious.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jul 22, 2016 18:40:19 GMT
I do t like Jaime/Brienne on the show TBH. I think, whether for better or worse, they are both completely different characters from their book counterparts, and the pairing as they are on TV just doesn't work for me. But ymmv and all that
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Post by Belle on Jul 22, 2016 20:05:49 GMT
I do t like Jaime/Brienne on the show TBH. I think, whether for better or worse, they are both completely different characters from their book counterparts, and the pairing as they are on TV just doesn't work for me. But ymmv and all that I just dislike show jaime in general and don't care about any of his relationships on the show. while i find jaime/brienne, jaime/tyrion and jaime/cersei to all be very interesting in the books.
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 23, 2016 2:19:03 GMT
I hate how show Jaime has been since S4 but I'm too far gone in the Jaime/Brienne trash department. I love it all.
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Post by DaveyJoe on Jul 23, 2016 2:37:04 GMT
I know his redemption arc has been put on hold, but I kind of like the Jaime/Cersei romance. ANd I'm glad it stuck around a bit longer on the show. Cersei is way more sympathetic in the show, and I think it would have felt disingenuous if Jaime broke up with her back in season 4. The thing is that when the show changes certain things, like omitting the Kettleblacks, it doesn't make sense for them to be faithful to the consequences that those characters initiate. Jaime abandoned Cersei because of jealousy in the books, and realizing that she didn't really love him. There hasn't been evidence of that in the show, so it makes sense that they're still together. And I think it's even better that Jaime would part ways with her because of the innocent people she killed in 6x10. I think the delay in that revelation will have better payoff next year.
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Post by Belle on Jul 23, 2016 3:07:31 GMT
I know his redemption arc has been put on hold, but I kind of like the Jaime/Cersei romance. ANd I'm glad it stuck around a bit longer on the show. Cersei is way more sympathetic in the show, and I think it would have felt disingenuous if Jaime broke up with her back in season 4. The thing is that when the show changes certain things, like omitting the Kettleblacks, it doesn't make sense for them to be faithful to the consequences that those characters initiate. Jaime abandoned Cersei because of jealousy in the books, and realizing that she didn't really love him. There hasn't been evidence of that in the show, so it makes sense that they're still together. And I think it's even better that Jaime would part ways with her because of the innocent people she killed in 6x10. I think the delay in that revelation will have better payoff next year. I actually love the Jaime/Cersei romance in the books, its a very tragic and compelling relationship imo. I think its more than just about the Cersei having sex with other people and Jaime being jealous. It's a very realistic depiction of a relationship of falling apart imo, of two people who still love each other (imo) but have also gotten tired and jaded with each other and can't deal with each other anymore. On the show though, the relationship hasn't made any sense to me since season 4. For all the speeches that Jaime makes about loving Cersei on the show in the recent seasons, I never really felt that he loved her. And show Cersei has just come across as extremely indifferent to Jaime imo. In their scenes together in Season 6, I got the feeling that they loved each other a little more, but their love mantras to each other were just cringeworthy imo. But I think its kind of funny, now that Cersei in her own way has kind of done the "fuck everyone who isn't us" thing that Jaime is mad at her. He kind of made his own bed and now he has to lie in it. He said all those things to her in the beginning of the season because she was so heartbroken and vulnerable and now he realizes he just enabled her madness lol.
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Post by DaveyJoe on Jul 23, 2016 3:16:36 GMT
I know his redemption arc has been put on hold, but I kind of like the Jaime/Cersei romance. ANd I'm glad it stuck around a bit longer on the show. Cersei is way more sympathetic in the show, and I think it would have felt disingenuous if Jaime broke up with her back in season 4. The thing is that when the show changes certain things, like omitting the Kettleblacks, it doesn't make sense for them to be faithful to the consequences that those characters initiate. Jaime abandoned Cersei because of jealousy in the books, and realizing that she didn't really love him. There hasn't been evidence of that in the show, so it makes sense that they're still together. And I think it's even better that Jaime would part ways with her because of the innocent people she killed in 6x10. I think the delay in that revelation will have better payoff next year. I actually love the Jaime/Cersei romance in the books, its a very tragic and compelling relationship imo. I think its more than just about the Cersei having sex with other people and Jaime being jealous. It's a very realistic depiction of a relationship of falling apart imo, of two people who still love each other (imo) but have also gotten tired and jaded with each other and can't deal with each other anymore. On the show though, the relationship hasn't made any sense to me since season 4. For all the speeches that Jaime makes about loving Cersei on the show in the recent seasons, I never really felt that he loved her. And show Cersei has just come across as extremely indifferent to Jaime imo. In their scenes together in Season 6, I got the feeling that they loved each other a little more, but their love mantras to each other were just cringeworthy imo. But I think its kind of funny, now that Cersei in her own way has kind of done the "fuck everyone who isn't us" thing that Jaime is mad at her. He kind of made his own bed and now he has to lie in it. He said all those things to her in the beginning of the season because she was so heartbroken and vulnerable and now he realizes he just enabled her madness lol. You're right that it's about more than jealousy, but the "She's fucking Osmund, Lancel.. and Moonboy for all I know." Is definitely the catalyst of the breakup, Jaime keeps repeating that line in his head before he burns Cersei's letter. And that moment never happened in the show, so I'm glad that they didn't force a breakup that wouldn't make sense in the context of the show. You raise an interesting point about the Jaime/Cersei isolation leading to the Wildfire moment, and now Jaime has to answer for it.
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