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Post by Admin on Jun 4, 2016 18:17:01 GMT
That is just too soon, though. If they are doing BwB against Freys think the only way to do it in a really satisfying way is the whole Brienne/Jaime/LSH thing - will she or will she not bring Jaime to her? Having BwB just show up and kill them...that's even worse than Arya doing it. God I just don't want all the Freys to die at once. Also the casting call said Lothar's storyline is very good and he leaves a mark on the show, what's so compelling about being yelled at by Walder, being involved in a siege and than in some feast? ugh. The thing is I don't think Walder would care much for just one son of him getting killed. Maybe there is something we're not seeing and Walder is important for season 7 because of his strategical position or something. In that case, I could see them delaying the Frey massacre up until that season. On the other hand, the show's pace right now makes me doubt that's gonna happen. I dunno.... too many variables and unknowns. It's not really about Walder caring, but creating a momentum - delaying the massacre, creating some suspense for what's about to come not just rushing into killing a bunch of characters, especially in an episode where there is one massacre already. Black Wader and Lothar's crimes were pointed out to the audience for a reason. So unless Arya poisons all 3 of them.....it is possible for Arya to poison all the food which in showrunners' mind is probably a homage to Frey Pies but it's not, it's just an insult that they rushed the arc. I'm hoping it doesn't happen because Arya only returns in finale. I just hope they didn't fuck it up.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Jun 4, 2016 18:50:40 GMT
The thing is I don't think Walder would care much for just one son of him getting killed. Maybe there is something we're not seeing and Walder is important for season 7 because of his strategical position or something. In that case, I could see them delaying the Frey massacre up until that season. On the other hand, the show's pace right now makes me doubt that's gonna happen. I dunno.... too many variables and unknowns. It's not really about Walder caring, but creating a momentum - delaying the massacre, creating some suspense for what's about to come not just rushing into killing a bunch of characters, especially in an episode where there is one massacre already. Black Wader and Lothar's crimes were pointed out to the audience for a reason. So unless Arya poisons all 3 of them.....it is possible for Arya to poison all the food which in showrunners' mind is probably a homage to Frey Pies but it's not, it's just an insult that they rushed the arc. I'm hoping it doesn't happen because Arya only returns in finale. I just hope they didn't fuck it up. I'm quite nervous about how they're going to handle it too. This should be a legendary scene, hellish in the vein of the RW, not a random inserted massacre. Hopefully the show shuts me up like it's done before!
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Post by Belle on Jun 4, 2016 19:12:35 GMT
honestly i dont want arya to kill walder frey anymore
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Post by Steve Stark on Jun 4, 2016 19:21:18 GMT
The thing is I don't think Walder would care much for just one son of him getting killed. Maybe there is something we're not seeing and Walder is important for season 7 because of his strategical position or something. In that case, I could see them delaying the Frey massacre up until that season. On the other hand, the show's pace right now makes me doubt that's gonna happen. I dunno.... too many variables and unknowns. It's not really about Walder caring, but creating a momentum - delaying the massacre, creating some suspense for what's about to come not just rushing into killing a bunch of characters, especially in an episode where there is one massacre already. Black Wader and Lothar's crimes were pointed out to the audience for a reason. So unless Arya poisons all 3 of them.....it is possible for Arya to poison all the food which in showrunners' mind is probably a homage to Frey Pies but it's not, it's just an insult that they rushed the arc. I'm hoping it doesn't happen because Arya only returns in finale. I just hope they didn't fuck it up.
I hear you. I'm going to have faith and say that D&D wont' fuck it up THAT horribly. They've messed up a lot, but I'll say the only thing that they completely DESTROYED were the Thenns. There are other things they dicked up, but most of it is adaptation type stuff. Oh, and the Dorne stuff. Other than that though...they do alright. I enjoy the show.
I don't think they'll rush this arc, but you never know. And I've been wrong before. I think LSH and the BwB is going to happen in a big way. A BIG way. I think we'll love it. We BETTER love it, or I will find D&D, and I will SHAME them. lmao
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on Jun 4, 2016 19:46:26 GMT
If all Freys die at once at that feast or something, we will have the Boltons, Freys and Tyrells all getting castamere'd in one single episode? That's not to mention the Martells, who have already been earlier this season, and the sparrows, who are not a family but will get wiped out as well. I wish the show would space a little bit all these big house extinctions. The Freys will be in four episodes and get ALL killed at once? This is the reason I disliked the rumour about the wildfire in the sept this season... I don't like this idea. It worked for the Red Wedding because it was uncommon. Now we're having three in one hour?
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Post by Admin on Jun 4, 2016 19:48:12 GMT
If all Freys die at once at that feast or something, we will have the Boltons, Freys and Tyrells all getting castamere'd in one single episode? That's not to mention the Martells, who have already been earlier this season, and the sparrows, who are not a family but will get wiped out as well. I wish the show would space a little bit all these big house extinctions. The Freys will be in four episodes and get ALL killed at once? This is the reason I disliked the rumour about the wildfire in the sept this season... I don't like this idea. It worked for the Red Wedding because it was uncommon. Now we're having three in one hour? They don't seem to realize slaughtering the people over the course of few episodes is an overkill but hopefully they know doing it twice in one episode is too much
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Post by Belle on Jun 4, 2016 19:51:27 GMT
If all Freys die at once at that feast or something, we will have the Boltons, Freys and Tyrells all getting castamere'd in one single episode? That's not to mention the Martells, who have already been earlier this season, and the sparrows, who are not a family but will get wiped out as well. I wish the show would space a little bit all these big house extinctions. The Freys will be in four episodes and get ALL killed at once? This is the reason I disliked the rumour about the wildfire in the sept this season... I don't like this idea. It worked for the Red Wedding because it was uncommon. Now we're having three in one hour? idk why but i'm giggling at this comment so much but honestly i'm not even sure now on whether walder frey will die this season. we shall see
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Post by Singer of Death on Jun 4, 2016 19:55:11 GMT
If all Freys die at once at that feast or something, we will have the Boltons, Freys and Tyrells all getting castamere'd in one single episode? That's not to mention the Martells, who have already been earlier this season, and the sparrows, who are not a family but will get wiped out as well. I wish the show would space a little bit all these big house extinctions. The Freys will be in four episodes and get ALL killed at once? This is the reason I disliked the rumour about the wildfire in the sept this season... I don't like this idea. It worked for the Red Wedding because it was uncommon. Now we're having three in one hour? idk why but i'm giggling at this comment so much but honestly i'm not even sure now on whether walder frey will die this season. we shall see He will. He's just gonna despair to death in his sleep after learning the Tullys win and they lose.
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on Jun 4, 2016 19:59:03 GMT
If all Freys die at once at that feast or something, we will have the Boltons, Freys and Tyrells all getting castamere'd in one single episode? That's not to mention the Martells, who have already been earlier this season, and the sparrows, who are not a family but will get wiped out as well. I wish the show would space a little bit all these big house extinctions. The Freys will be in four episodes and get ALL killed at once? This is the reason I disliked the rumour about the wildfire in the sept this season... I don't like this idea. It worked for the Red Wedding because it was uncommon. Now we're having three in one hour? They don't seem to realize slaughtering the people over the course of few episodes is an overkill but hopefully they know doing it twice in one episode is too much Yeah. They seem to have enjoyed so much killing at least one character per episode that they will start killing entire families randomly. Perhaps in S07E02 Sansa, Jon, Bran and Arya all die as well and we lose the Starks forever, or something. Seriously though, I hope they work a bit more with Walder Frey as an antagonist. Having him be butchered in that feast is not enough for him. We need some proper build up for his death. What pisses me is that there has been major set up this season for Ramsay as a villain, yet Walder seems to be treated as a minor threat (he is nowhere as bad as Ramsay, but he is one big mark of GoT. No casual viewers can easily forget the RW).
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Post by Belle on Jun 4, 2016 20:05:05 GMT
with how arya was written in ep 6, it seemed like a part of her was realizing the futility of the cycle of revenge, that there was more to life than revenge etc. so i would be extremely dissappointed if now she would just go back to her season 2-4 arc and kill walder frey.
all i want from arya in ep 10 is to reunite with nymeria and decide to head north to meet jon
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on Jun 4, 2016 20:13:28 GMT
with how arya was written in ep 6, it seemed like a part of her was realizing the futility of the cycle of revenge, that there was more to life than revenge etc. so i would be extremely dissappointed if now she would just go back to her season 2-4 arc and kill walder frey. all i want from arya in ep 10 is to reunite with nymeria and decide to head north to meet jon I love what you said!
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Jun 4, 2016 20:23:50 GMT
If all Freys die at once at that feast or something, we will have the Boltons, Freys and Tyrells all getting castamere'd in one single episode? That's not to mention the Martells, who have already been earlier this season, and the sparrows, who are not a family but will get wiped out as well. I wish the show would space a little bit all these big house extinctions. The Freys will be in four episodes and get ALL killed at once? This is the reason I disliked the rumour about the wildfire in the sept this season... I don't like this idea. It worked for the Red Wedding because it was uncommon. Now we're having three in one hour? Whether it happens this season or next, I like that he dies at a feast. It's poetic. Walder probably wouldn't care much about seeing his sons get butchered before him. Too tame for him. I think he'll be made to eat them instead - at least, I think that's where the heavy Rat Cook foreshadowing is going (Frey pies). Ungodly things should go down at that feast beyond a mere massacre.
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on Jun 4, 2016 20:26:04 GMT
with how arya was written in ep 6, it seemed like a part of her was realizing the futility of the cycle of revenge, that there was more to life than revenge etc. so i would be extremely dissappointed if now she would just go back to her season 2-4 arc and kill walder frey. all i want from arya in ep 10 is to reunite with nymeria and decide to head north to meet jon Yup. Of all the people left on her list, she's not gonna kill any of them. Walder will probably be killed by the Tully's of BwB, Cersei will be killed by Jaime and Gregor is Sandor's to kill. Besides, it'd be so corny to have Arya appear across Westeros and bump people off like "a badass assassin" Too cliche
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Post by Belle on Jun 4, 2016 20:34:37 GMT
with how arya was written in ep 6, it seemed like a part of her was realizing the futility of the cycle of revenge, that there was more to life than revenge etc. so i would be extremely dissappointed if now she would just go back to her season 2-4 arc and kill walder frey. all i want from arya in ep 10 is to reunite with nymeria and decide to head north to meet jon Yup. Of all the people left on her list, she's not gonna kill any of them. Walder will probably be killed by the Tully's of BwB, Cersei will be killed by Jaime and Gregor is Sandor's to kill. Besides, it'd be so corny to have Arya appear across Westeros and bump people off like "a badass assassin" Too cliche yeah exactly her character is much more important than that. it annoyed me so much last season that the climax of her storyline was killing meryn trant? like wtf meryn trant is a D-list villain lmao.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 4, 2016 20:35:16 GMT
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Post by Belle on Jun 4, 2016 20:36:05 GMT
also i'm expecting some dornish deaths in the finale tbh
i think it would totally fall in line with this show that the sand snakes and ellaria went on a murder spree in the premire, that they'll get offed in the finale
i think D&D are just done with that storyline and don't want anything to do with it
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 4, 2016 20:42:37 GMT
also i'm expecting some dornish deaths in the finale tbh i think it would totally fall in line with this show that the sand snakes and ellaria went on a murder spree in the premire, that they'll get offed in the finale i think D&D are just done with that storyline and don't want anything to do with it Yeah. They realize they dun goofed and are now just cutting their losses.
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Post by Belle on Jun 4, 2016 20:44:01 GMT
also i'm expecting some dornish deaths in the finale tbh i think it would totally fall in line with this show that the sand snakes and ellaria went on a murder spree in the premire, that they'll get offed in the finale i think D&D are just done with that storyline and don't want anything to do with it Yeah. They realize they dun goofed and are now just cutting their losses. yeah i really don't think that they're going to ally with dany. that completely went out the window when they murdered doran and trystane on the show. i really do think most of those characters will die in the finale and not just out of wishful thinking
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Post by Steve Stark on Jun 4, 2016 20:44:38 GMT
I don't think it will be as fun unless Walder Frey is terrified, watching while his whole family (all 87 of his kids or what have you) start getting picked off one by one, while his power crumbles around him.
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on Jun 4, 2016 20:53:27 GMT
I don't see Dornish characters dying this season. They are not even present at all!
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