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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 15:32:09 GMT
Cersei is not Tommen's heir. Tommen's heir is probably some distant Estermont. Tbh the rightful king atm is Robert's grandfather or uncle. When Tommen dies, Cersei loses her every right to rule. She's not even Queen Mother, just a female Lannister. Which makes the whole thing more interesting. Cersei claims the IT because she can. I thought the Baratheon's claimed not just via conquering but also legitimacy via Rhaelle Targaryan? If that is the case, then next in line is Jon (if he's legit) or Dany if he isn't. True, their ties to Targs also took part in it, but the Targaryens have no claim anymore. Eldon Estermont is the rightful heir
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on Jun 4, 2016 15:37:51 GMT
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/4mi402/leaks_say_this_photo_is_from_season_finale_who_is/ Slow day on reddit today If this show doesn't end with Tenacious D banishing the Night's King to hell I'm gonna be pissed.
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Post by kuroitheblack on Jun 4, 2016 15:41:40 GMT
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/4mi402/leaks_say_this_photo_is_from_season_finale_who_is/ Slow day on reddit today If this show doesn't end with Tenacious D banishing the Night's King to hell I'm gonna be pissed. You sir deserve a thousand likes
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 4, 2016 15:45:51 GMT
I feel like the whole "Baratheon/Targ Blood" thing is BS. That's literally the definition of a flimsy excuse to claim the throne with. He won the throne because he took the throne, not because his grandmas brothers uncles sisters cousins former roommate was married to a satellite Targaryen.
Just like Joffrey got the Throne because Cersei took it. Power lies where men believe it resides.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 15:53:09 GMT
I feel like the whole "Baratheon/Targ Blood" thing is BS. That's literally the definition of a flimsy excuse to claim the throne with. He won the throne because he took the throne, not because his grandmas brothers uncles sisters cousins former roommate was married to a satellite Targaryen. Just like Joffrey got the Throne because Cersei took it. Power lies where men believe it resides. Yeah, only people like Jon Arryn gave a shit about Robert having Targaryen blood.
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on Jun 4, 2016 15:56:19 GMT
I feel like the whole "Baratheon/Targ Blood" thing is BS. That's literally the definition of a flimsy excuse to claim the throne with. He won the throne because he took the throne, not because his grandmas brothers uncles sisters cousins former roommate was married to a satellite Targaryen. Just like Joffrey got the Throne because Cersei took it. Power lies where men believe it resides. True, but not true. It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things whether they are truly royalty. Robert won the throne, but his Targaryen blood came in handy because it added legitimacy to his rule. If what you're saying is true, Cersei wouldn't of cared if rumors circulated that her children weren't Roberts own. She needed claim to Roberts throne. The Lannister alone couldn't hold the throne, and thus they needed a claim to it. If what you say is true, and been related to the old king didn't matter, then neither Renly nor Stannis would of caused any worry to the Lannisters, and no one would have supported either of them. For a lot of people in Westeros, the kings blood and right to rule is everything. Yes, they mainly believe what they are told and tend not to question it, but still, the fact that people go out of their way to prove they have legitimacy is still a major factor in this. If the Targ blood stuff was BS, then it never would have been brought up. It sereves a purpose. It legitimized Roberts rule, and it also fattnes the red herring of Stannis being Azor Ahai. There we have it.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Jun 4, 2016 17:14:54 GMT
That's great. So we can confirm siege of Riverrun part 2 for episode 8 and then the feast in episode 10. Probably no Riverlands in 9.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 4, 2016 17:17:08 GMT
I feel like the whole "Baratheon/Targ Blood" thing is BS. That's literally the definition of a flimsy excuse to claim the throne with. He won the throne because he took the throne, not because his grandmas brothers uncles sisters cousins former roommate was married to a satellite Targaryen. Just like Joffrey got the Throne because Cersei took it. Power lies where men believe it resides. Yeah, only people like Jon Arryn gave a shit about Robert having Targaryen blood. Lol can't tell if sarcasm or not...
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Post by Steve Stark on Jun 4, 2016 17:33:48 GMT
That's great. So we can confirm siege of Riverrun part 2 for episode 8 and then the feast in episode 10. Probably no Riverlands in 9.
Wooooot!
My guess is LSH is in one of the episodes other than 9. Freys are going DOWN!
I want Cersei to die. I want Walder to die. And I want Petyr to die.
Sure, I want Ramsey to die, but who doesn't? The guy is obviously twisted and will go at some point. But he's at least fun to have around to make things interesting.
If Cersei dies, no matter how it happens or who does it, Jaime becomes even more interesting. Walder just needs to die in one of these episodes for what he did to Rob, breaking Westeros' biggest tradition (bonus points if LSH is involved). And by the old gods and the new, Petyr Baelish is a fucking weasel and just needs a strong man or a pissed off Sansa to execute him. Varys is slippery too, but he isn't a douche like Baelish is. I just can't stand that guy for some reason.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Jun 4, 2016 17:41:03 GMT
And Nikolaj still has three locations to go to after Riverrun: the Banbridge woods, Iceland and presumably the Twins
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Post by Admin on Jun 4, 2016 17:47:28 GMT
And Nikolaj still has three locations to go to after Riverrun: the Banbridge woods, Iceland and presumably the Twins If Jaime was at that feast wouldn't we see him in that trailer shot? He is the general or whatever he wouldn't sit somewhere in the back. Maybe he was taking a piss
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Jun 4, 2016 17:51:42 GMT
And Nikolaj still has three locations to go to after Riverrun: the Banbridge woods, Iceland and presumably the Twins If Jaime was at that feast wouldn't we see him in that trailer shot? He is the general or whatever he wouldn't sit somewhere in the back. Maybe he was taking a piss Something weird's going on there. I believe Tully forces and/or BWB are just outside the hall or something.
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Post by Admin on Jun 4, 2016 17:54:04 GMT
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Jun 4, 2016 17:58:43 GMT
I think the way for BWB and Freys to meet is if the BWB has infiltrated the Twins in episode 10. Then it could follow the Red Wedding pattern.... wait for Freys and Lannisters to get drunk and get in. But I think it would have to be the real BWB and not Lachlan's bandits.
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Post by Admin on Jun 4, 2016 17:59:34 GMT
If Jaime was at that feast wouldn't we see him in that trailer shot? He is the general or whatever he wouldn't sit somewhere in the back. Maybe he was taking a piss Something weird's going on there. I believe Tully forces and/or BWB are just outside the hall or something. I think Jaime is not there. And I prey to God no one dies there but clearly that scene exists for a reason. Maybe it's kinda like Mhysa scene to show Walder all smug and happy. I hope it's early in the episode and then one of the Freys is captured and hanged which Thoros witness and it's not Meribald who hangs and Thoros sees it in ep. 7. I mean if it's not that and we know Thoros witnesses a hanging...sure there can be a hanging of some random person but come on stop trolling people. And I hope Jaime just wanders around in the area after Riverrun. And I hope Thoros definitely doesn't die by Hound. I hope for so many things
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 4, 2016 18:00:58 GMT
Lady Cat is here. Please please please. I have enough disappointment in my life.
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Post by Admin on Jun 4, 2016 18:03:39 GMT
I think the way for BWB and Freys to meet is if the BWB has infiltrated the Twins in episode 10. Then it could follow the Red Wedding pattern.... wait for Freys and Lannisters to get drunk and get in. But I think it would have to be the real BWB and not Lachlan's bandits. That is just too soon, though. If they are doing BwB against Freys think the only way to do it in a really satisfying way is the whole Brienne/Jaime/LSH thing - will she or will she not bring Jaime to her? Having BwB just show up and kill them...that's even worse than Arya doing it. God I just don't want all the Freys to die at once. Also the casting call said Lothar's storyline is very good and he leaves a mark on the show, what's so compelling about being yelled at by Walder, being involved in a siege and than in some feast? ugh.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Jun 4, 2016 18:05:47 GMT
Lady Cat is here. Please please please. I have enough disappointment in my life. You ought to start a Cersei's trial hype thread for ep. 10. If Snowbowl has one, this certainly deserves it The Twins deserves one too, but we know so little.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Jun 4, 2016 18:11:05 GMT
I think the way for BWB and Freys to meet is if the BWB has infiltrated the Twins in episode 10. Then it could follow the Red Wedding pattern.... wait for Freys and Lannisters to get drunk and get in. But I think it would have to be the real BWB and not Lachlan's bandits. That is just too soon, though. If they are doing BwB against Freys think the only way to do it in a really satisfying way is the whole Brienne/Jaime/LSH thing - will she or will she not bring Jaime to her? Having BwB just show up and kill them...that's even worse than Arya doing it. God I just don't want all the Freys to die at once. Also the casting call said Lothar's storyline is very good and he leaves a mark on the show, what's so compelling about being yelled at by Walder, being involved in a siege and than in some feast? ugh. The thing is I don't think Walder would care much for just one son of him getting killed. Maybe there is something we're not seeing and Walder is important for season 7 because of his strategical position or something. In that case, I could see them delaying the Frey massacre up until that season. On the other hand, the show's pace right now makes me doubt that's gonna happen. I dunno.... too many variables and unknowns.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 4, 2016 18:15:44 GMT
Lady Cat is here. Please please please. I have enough disappointment in my life. You ought to start a Cersei's trial hype thread for ep. 10. If Snowbowl has one, this certainly deserves it The Twins deserves one too, but we know so little. Hmmm perhaps I will I don't wanna risk spoiling those who don't want to be so I think I'll put it in the general section because the only reason we know it's in e10 is from leaks. And clearly label it "leaks" lol
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