|
|
Post by Admin on Apr 20, 2016 5:44:18 GMT
It's time to talk about this again, folks.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 5:58:37 GMT
i think they're talking about ice spiders or maybe an ice dragon?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 6:01:19 GMT
i think they're talking about ice spiders or maybe an ice dragon? I thought the same at first, but I don't think that would require prosthetics. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 6:05:37 GMT
i think they're talking about ice spiders or maybe an ice dragon? I thought the same at first, but I don't think that would require prosthetics. maybe its shot in front of a green screen with real mechanical parts and VFX is added on top. I'm not sure  EDIT: i'm not sure what prosthetics includes, as in if it doesn't just relate to prosthetics used on humans |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 6:11:16 GMT
It would have to be something that could have been included in both of those seasons' scripts and then easily cut. They wouldn't exclude an entire storyline due to prosthesis not working out or rework and rewrite a whole season for that reason. So it'd have to be something within the storylines included in s4 and s5 that could still be in s6. Something north of the Wall would still be my guess.
|
|
|
|
Post by Admin on Apr 20, 2016 6:23:27 GMT
It would have to be something that could have been included in both of those seasons' scripts and then easily cut. They wouldn't exclude an entire storyline due to prosthesis not working out or rework and rewrite a whole season for that reason. So it'd have to be something within the storylines included in s4 and s5 that could still be in s6. Something north of the Wall would still be my guess. Not necessarily. Outline doesn't mean scripts. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 6:27:58 GMT
It would have to be something that could have been included in both of those seasons' scripts and then easily cut. They wouldn't exclude an entire storyline due to prosthesis not working out or rework and rewrite a whole season for that reason. So it'd have to be something within the storylines included in s4 and s5 that could still be in s6. Something north of the Wall would still be my guess. Not necessarily. Outline doesn't mean scripts. I guess not. But generally I don't think LSH would be too hard to do with prosthesis. I think something similar, albeit more exagerrated, to what was done with Beric's injuries would do the trick. It would be much easier to do than what they do with WW, wights and giants, for instance. So as much as seems to point in her direction this year, I just don't really think this particular quote does. |
|
|
|
Post by Nezzer on Apr 20, 2016 6:28:28 GMT
Unless LSH's face is completely rotten with her skull showing or something like that, I can't see LSH being a "VFX challenge". My money is on an ice spider, a reanimated bear or some other creepy animal zombie north of the Wall. I'm still on board the LSH hype train, Sati don't worry  |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 6:30:05 GMT
Unless LSH's face is completely rotten with her skull showing or something like that, I can't see LSH being a "VFX challenge". My money is on an ice spider, a reanimated bear or some other creepy animal zombie north of the Wall. I'm still on board the LSH hype train, Sati don't worry There was a casting call for Varamyr Sixskins last season and he never appeared. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 6:32:07 GMT
Unless LSH's face is completely rotten with her skull showing or something like that, I can't see LSH being a "VFX challenge". My money is on an ice spider, a reanimated bear or some other creepy animal zombie north of the Wall. I'm still on board the LSH hype train, Sati don't worry There was a casting call for Varamyr Sixskins last season and he never appeared. That's because he was gender-swapped into Karsi. It was just that part but male. |
|
|
|
Post by Nezzer on Apr 20, 2016 6:33:28 GMT
Unless LSH's face is completely rotten with her skull showing or something like that, I can't see LSH being a "VFX challenge". My money is on an ice spider, a reanimated bear or some other creepy animal zombie north of the Wall. I'm still on board the LSH hype train, Sati don't worry There was a casting call for Varamyr Sixskins last season and he never appeared. Good memory, but I don't think we are ever gonna see him now that the wildlings are south of the Wall and will most likely become irrelevant after SNOWBOWL. |
|
|
|
Post by Nezzer on Apr 20, 2016 6:35:19 GMT
There was a casting call for Varamyr Sixskins last season and he never appeared. That's because he was gender-swapped into Karsi. It was just that part but male. They should've kept her as Karsi Sixskins. Hardhome would've been even more epic with her fighting the WW with bears and wolves  |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 6:36:54 GMT
It probably wasn't Nymeria and her wolfpack either then.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 6:38:15 GMT
That's because he was gender-swapped into Karsi. It was just that part but male. They should've kept her as Karsi Sixskins. Hardhome would've been even more epic with her fighting the WW with bears and wolves I think it was just written as a generic wildling chief but with the name Varamyr as a nod to the books. And then it was actually Sapochnik who asked if he could do a gender-swap. The only real similarity with bookVaramyr is that Karsi's also killed by wights. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 7:58:56 GMT
Ice spiders is my guess
|
|
|
|
Post by Basil on Apr 20, 2016 8:30:18 GMT
Ice spiders and ice dragons would be all CGI for sure, I don't see what the prosthetics guy would have to do with them, or why it would be that big of a deal, considering that they've already been doing CGI dragons for years now. Also, at what point in S4 were they planning to introduce ice dragons and ice spiders? That doesn't make sense to me at all.
To me, it sounds like he's talking about some elaborate makeup effect (he's the main prosthetics guy after all, that's his speciality) which they were originally planning to bring in S4, but chickened out, which could very well point to Lady Stoneheart, she is described as pretty gruesome looking in the books.
|
|
|
|
Post by Nezzer on Apr 20, 2016 8:42:09 GMT
Ice spiders and ice dragons would be all CGI for sure, I don't see what the prosthetics guy would have to do with them, or why it would be that big of a deal, considering that they've already been doing CGI dragons for years now. Also, at what point in S4 were they planning to introduce ice dragons and ice spiders? That doesn't make sense to me at all. To me, it sounds like he's talking about some elaborate makeup effect (he's the main prosthetics guy after all, that's his speciality) which they were originally planning to bring in S4, but chickened out, which could very well point to Lady Stoneheart, she is described as pretty gruesome looking in the books. No matter how gruesome her face looks, it can't possibly compare to the WW prosthetics. It would be regular zombie make up like we see in TWD, not a whole complex structure covering her entire face like the WW masks. That's not the kind of stuff that would be considered a challenge for them and it wouldn't need VFX, only practical effects. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 8:43:50 GMT
The Night's Queen?
|
|
|
|
Post by Basil on Apr 20, 2016 8:57:52 GMT
Ice spiders and ice dragons would be all CGI for sure, I don't see what the prosthetics guy would have to do with them, or why it would be that big of a deal, considering that they've already been doing CGI dragons for years now. Also, at what point in S4 were they planning to introduce ice dragons and ice spiders? That doesn't make sense to me at all. To me, it sounds like he's talking about some elaborate makeup effect (he's the main prosthetics guy after all, that's his speciality) which they were originally planning to bring in S4, but chickened out, which could very well point to Lady Stoneheart, she is described as pretty gruesome looking in the books. No matter how gruesome her face looks, it can't possibly compare to the WW prosthetics. It would be regular zombie make up like we see in TWD, not a whole complex structure covering her entire face like the WW masks. That's not the kind of stuff that would be considered a challenge for them and it wouldn't need VFX, only practical effects. Maybe what he meant by challenge was making her look convincingly horrifying and gut-wrenching, but not cartoony. Making her resemble a rotting TWD zombie would totally be missing the point, imo, no one finds that stuff scary anymore, and she has to look scary. A lesser prosthetics team would probably go that route, but I think there is the potential for some amazing visual horror here, that goes far beyond your typical zombie stuff - and pulling that off would probably be considered a challenge. Dude, I don't know, but he is the prosthetics guy, so I do think he was talking about something from his department. I really don't see it being ice spiders or ice dragons. |
|
mandzipop
Grumpkin 
Still in recovery from a naked Jon Snow
Posts: 333 
|
Post by mandzipop on Apr 20, 2016 11:35:17 GMT
The initial thought would be LSH, however they made Michael Jackson's Thriller in the early 80's and that was good enough to have make up that passes for LSH.
It must be something more complex. It could be a vision of Bran's which is a large scale production of VFX prosthetics. Hardhome was a huge challenge for them, I'm assuming that this is going to be a bigger challenge specifically due to scale.
|
|
