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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 19:35:33 GMT
It was the failure of his entire campaign and death of his army and claim he was faced with. But I doubt at this point trotting this debate out again will change anyone's mind tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 19:40:33 GMT
Yeah, if he had failed what would have happened to his lineage... oh.
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Post by Admin on Aug 8, 2015 20:46:50 GMT
It was the failure of his entire campaign and death of his army and claim he was faced with. But I doubt at this point trotting this debate out again will change anyone's mind tbh. Yep, it won't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 21:05:33 GMT
Stannis fans watching the end of the season like:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 21:12:32 GMT
Stannis fans watching the end of the season like: Hey that's me in the video!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 21:25:56 GMT
Stannis hype spreaders at the end of the season:
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Post by valyrianshadow on Aug 11, 2015 18:38:19 GMT
Laughed at this earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 14:55:48 GMT
To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Stannis comes back in Season 6.
I know he's dead and all in the show, but I wouldn't be shocked if that happened...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 16:32:32 GMT
I'd still say that Stannis burning his daughter in an instant, without giving it any second thought, was very out-of-character for him and frankly, bad writing. Acting-wise I'd say these last two episodes were Dillane's best work on the show, but it was a disappointing and anticlimatic way to end Stannis' storyline, imo. This I feel like we're missing context with this. The scenes we should have been watching with Stannis should have been his coming around to burning Shireen, instead we have "how dare you suggest burning my daughter!" -> "This cold is inconvenient. The food is low. Don't go and rally the north for aid. Burn my daughter!"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 16:39:51 GMT
It was the failure of his entire campaign and death of his army and claim he was faced with. But I doubt at this point trotting this debate out again will change anyone's mind tbh. Its just that some characters are so fucking untouchable to the plot, and his entire plotline as the liberator of the north, leader of the northern rebels and (most likely) the one to destroy the Bolton's has been completely shifted in favour of another character. And he got killed by Brienne Ex Machina, who I has been earning more of my ire with every plot convinience.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 17:54:21 GMT
It was the failure of his entire campaign and death of his army and claim he was faced with. But I doubt at this point trotting this debate out again will change anyone's mind tbh. Its just that some characters are so fucking untouchable to the plot, and his entire plotline as the liberator of the north, leader of the northern rebels and (most likely) the one to destroy the Bolton's has been completely shifted in favour of another character. And he got killed by Brienne Ex Machina, who I has been earning more of my ire with every plot convinience. Next season Brienne kills Roose. Then in Season 7 she kills Euron. And finally in Season 8 she kills NK.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 18:02:52 GMT
I liked the direction of this storyline this year.
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Post by Admin on Aug 16, 2015 18:43:01 GMT
Its just that some characters are so fucking untouchable to the plot, and his entire plotline as the liberator of the north, leader of the northern rebels and (most likely) the one to destroy the Bolton's has been completely shifted in favour of another character. And he got killed by Brienne Ex Machina, who I has been earning more of my ire with every plot convinience. Next season Brienne kills Roose. Then in Season 7 she kills Euron. And finally in Season 8 she kills NK. Why would she kill NK if she is the sleeper agent of Others who has just murdered the badass who would fight them?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 18:45:35 GMT
Next season Brienne kills Roose. Then in Season 7 she kills Euron. And finally in Season 8 she kills NK. Why would she kill NK if she is the sleeper agent of Others who has just murdered the badass who would fight them? Because she's a "strong woman".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 18:53:44 GMT
I can't wait to see which of my favorite characters Brienne will kill in season 6 for no good reason.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 19:24:39 GMT
I can't wait to see which of my favorite characters Brienne will kill in season 6 for no good reason. MAYBE SHE INTERRUPTS CLEGANEBOWL AND KILLS BOTH SANDOR AND FRANKENGREGOR???
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 19:27:05 GMT
I can't wait to see which of my favorite characters Brienne will kill in season 6 for no good reason. MAYBE SHE INTERRUPTS CLEGANEBOWL AND KILLS BOTH SANDOR AND FRANKENGREGOR??? And in the episode before she gets some clunky dialogue about how she swore an oath to stop trials by combat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 19:28:04 GMT
She has agency.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 9:53:05 GMT
I can't wait to see which of my favorite characters Brienne will kill in season 6 for no good reason. I love this line. She went on years of 'revenge' because the guy she fancied (and IDC what HBO says, she fancied Renly, for certain), even though he, according to Loras (who knew Renly way better than anyone else) he used to find her a joke. Compare this to a truly independent women, like Asha/Yara who actually defies the men around her does generally defiant shit. But no, no. Brienne is a shining example of female power. I genuinely think D&D are trying to be open minded by saying, "yes women can be strong and independent, but only if you're not physically attractive." And that's apparently D&D's non sexism attempt.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 10:27:16 GMT
I can't wait to see which of my favorite characters Brienne will kill in season 6 for no good reason. I love this line. She went on years of 'revenge' because the guy she fancied (and IDC what HBO says, she fancied Renly, for certain), even though he, according to Loras (who knew Renly way better than anyone else) he used to find her a joke. Compare this to a truly independent women, like Asha/Yara who actually defies the men around her does generally defiant shit. But no, no. Brienne is a shining example of female power. I genuinely think D&D are trying to be open minded by saying, "yes women can be strong and independent, but only if you're not physically attractive." And that's apparently D&D's non sexism attempt. What?!?! That's all shit you're reading into this. You can't just say, "I think they thought this, so fuck them for thinking what I think they thought!" That doesn't make sense. I've seen so much of this, "Brienne is ____ to D and D" here, on IMDB and on AFOIAF but, never in anything anyone to do with the show has said has this actually been voiced. Except by fans who angrily read this shit into show events and then claim that was the intent.
Stannis conceded in the show that he murdered Renly. In both ep. 210 and 510 when she came to him. So, it's not revenge in-quotes. It is revenge. Given her oaths to him it is her duty as Stannis, once again, conceded. And he didn't mock her in the show and she did have an oath with him and she did have an out from her vow to Cat specifically if it were for her pursuit of that revenge. All of this was set up. So if she were to come across him, which she did, why wouldn't she kill him? Because his fanbase is over-fond of him? Well, she didn't know that, did she?
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