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Post by King Tommen on Jun 13, 2016 3:51:07 GMT
OK sure, I didn't realize that people here didn't know what Cersei's future plans might be. What are everyone's thoughts on what she and Qyburn were referencing when they were scheming at the end of the scene? Obviously wildfire, but some of us didn't know Loras would be killed by it. I don't know either, I'm not going by a leak, I'm just assuming that since his trial is at the same time as Cersei, that he's getting roasted. No one knows exactly how the final stuff in KL is going down.
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Post by lordcarson on Jun 13, 2016 3:52:44 GMT
Guys. I don't know shit about the rest of the season. I don't WANT to know if, when, or how fucking Loras will show up again. Please and thanks. Or else I'll just have to stay out of every thread until season ends. It's not hard.
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 13, 2016 3:56:00 GMT
Honestly, it's not a spoiler. I don't have any inside information, just more speculation based on what was said in the Throne room in this episode. No need to blow in into something it's not. It's covered now so no one can think I was passing along confirmed info (it's not).
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 13, 2016 3:59:10 GMT
It's all good friends.
But yeah, Cersei's definitely plotting something. And I am 100% down for it. Tommen's complete betrayal of his mother was just such a scumbag move that I'm actively rooting for Cersei.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:02:03 GMT
Nobody knows anything about Loras and what happens to him guys. I've been in leaks thread too. King Tommen made a speculative guess that sounded like a spoiler based on what we know from scenes already played out in the show. Bran had visions of wildfire, we know the mad king had stashes of it under the city, and we know Qyburn has some rumor he hinted at to Cersei. "Much More..." ... sounds an awful lot like he knows about the wildfire, right? But it's just a guess. No leaks told that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:04:56 GMT
Shit...
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 13, 2016 4:16:29 GMT
So what's the purpose of the Brotherhood now? Because I can't find one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:20:37 GMT
So what's the purpose of the Brotherhood now? Because I can't find one. I imagine all of the Riverlands storylines will intersect in the finale somehow, though I don't have many guesses as to how exactly. But with Beric mentioning that "the cold winds are rising in the North" it sounds like they have a much bigger purpose overall than just the politics of the Riverlands.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:20:50 GMT
So anyways, let's speculate about BwB a bit (man I'm such a sucker for target practice) ... Can I say I'm pleased as punch at the way they twisted that around? I carefully stayed out of most all BwB politics debates because I truly had no clue as to what was going to happen. I loved it. I love they were hanging men who broke off from them and put a smear on their reputation. It shows how weird things get in war ... where the lines get blurred (as with Brienne and Jaime but on a smaller level among the 'average' people). I also like the human side of Sandor we're seeing come out. I think he's going to join them and I think they're right, he's not too far gone and he can be a lot of help in the bigger war to come. Yes I know a lot of people are confused as to why the BwB would turn their attention northward but is it really a stretch to imagine they (like Melisandre) wouldn't see the bigger picture? All of this is starting to make sense to me... everything is slowly simmering down into a strange brew - everyone combined will fight the White Walkers. It's really where it's going - is this a massive surprise?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:23:35 GMT
So what's the purpose of the Brotherhood now? Because I can't find one. I don't even care about The Riverlands anymore. The North is where it's at.
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 13, 2016 4:25:49 GMT
So what's the purpose of the Brotherhood now? Because I can't find one. Seems like they're going to be joining up with Mel up North eventually to rally the Lord of Light's followers against the WW's. I think as far as the plot goes, they probably are there to bring the Hound back into the orbit of our main cast. They seemed to hint in their scene that the Lord of Light is keeping them around to fulfill a purpose and I would guess that's to get the Hound where he's supposed to be. And although there's zero indication of this that we're aware of, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to take out the Frey's in some form or another. It had been mentioned by Walder that the BwB were aligning the smallfolk against them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:26:13 GMT
So what's the purpose of the Brotherhood now? Because I can't find one. The BwB was formed before Lady Stoneheart came into the story. Their purpose is still the same with the addition that they are starting to hear rumors of what's happening up north. Their purpose is different without Lady Stoneheart and revenge against the Freys - that's true. They seem to be giving them something different to do aside from helping get revenge on the Freys. I will agree it's disappointing to think (at this point) the Starks will not get revenge against the Freys - but we still don't know that yet. I think the BwB purpose now is going to help get the word out to all the Riverlands houses and villages and people about the real problem in the North. Beric and Thoros are the Jon and Melisandre of the middle lands.
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 13, 2016 4:45:01 GMT
So what's the purpose of the Brotherhood now? Because I can't find one. The BwB was formed before Lady Stoneheart came into the story. Their purpose is still the same with the addition that they are starting to hear rumors of what's happening up north. Their purpose is different without Lady Stoneheart and revenge against the Freys - that's true. They seem to be giving them something different to do aside from helping get revenge on the Freys. I will agree it's disappointing to think (at this point) the Starks will not get revenge against the Freys - but we still don't know that yet. I think the BwB purpose now is going to help get the word out to all the Riverlands houses and villages and people about the real problem in the North. Beric and Thoros are the Jon and Melisandre of the middle lands. I wonder if Arya teams up with them in season 7.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:49:54 GMT
The BwB was formed before Lady Stoneheart came into the story. Their purpose is still the same with the addition that they are starting to hear rumors of what's happening up north. Their purpose is different without Lady Stoneheart and revenge against the Freys - that's true. They seem to be giving them something different to do aside from helping get revenge on the Freys. I will agree it's disappointing to think (at this point) the Starks will not get revenge against the Freys - but we still don't know that yet. I think the BwB purpose now is going to help get the word out to all the Riverlands houses and villages and people about the real problem in the North. Beric and Thoros are the Jon and Melisandre of the middle lands. I wonder if Arya teams up with them in season 7. That would be one potential avenue for her to get around and have more adventures for sure. I don't see her going back to Winterfell to sit around sewing with Sansa again, right? Although, she hates them for selling out Gendry, so I don't know. She would at least trust Sandor again I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:51:50 GMT
Although, she hates them for selling out Gendry, so I don't know. She would at least trust Sandor again I think. I could see Arya reuniting with Gendry next season if he comes back that is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:55:50 GMT
Although, she hates them for selling out Gendry, so I don't know. She would at least trust Sandor again I think. I could see Arya reuniting with Gendry next season if he comes back that is. I would love to see Gendry come back too. He's a blacksmith after all and Sam is going to learn about Valyrian steel at the Citadel so the Dream Team is going to need a good blacksmith, right?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:58:47 GMT
I could see Arya reuniting with Gendry next season if he comes back that is. I would love to see Gendry come back too. He's a blacksmith after all and Sam is going to learn about Valyrian steel at the Citadel so the Dream Team is going to need a good blacksmith, right? That would be a good way to bring Gendry back into the story too, if he learns how to forge Valyrian steel to fight the WW. Maybe Varys also has plans for him since he was the one to arrange his escape from KL when Robert's bastards were killed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 5:02:03 GMT
I would love to see Gendry come back too. He's a blacksmith after all and Sam is going to learn about Valyrian steel at the Citadel so the Dream Team is going to need a good blacksmith, right? That would be a good way to bring Gendry back into the story too, if he learns how to forge Valyrian steel to fight the WW. Maybe Varys also has plans for him since he was the one to arrange his escape from KL when Robert's bastards were killed. Shameless obligatory "shirtless Gendry" post in support of his return. "gendry shirtless" is a top Google search btw. No joke. Want your fansite to get good SEO? Include shirtless gendry. *edit / disclaimer: Envitchy rights invoked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 5:06:43 GMT
*edit / disclaimer: Envitchy rights invoked. Shit.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 13, 2016 5:10:09 GMT
i've always thought gendry's swordmaking skills would be more relevant than being robert's eldest son. king gendry ain't never gonna happen.
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