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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 1, 2016 4:14:32 GMT
Wasn't sure which thread or board to put this in until today.
So I think somewhere on this forum, I've said that I believe in the theory that the Last Hero in Old Nan's story was the original Brandon Stark, Bran the Builder. Well, on tumblr after 6.05 someone made this connection with Old Nan's story.
Bran lost Jojen on the way to the cotf and then lost every protector but Meera once the WW became aware of him and sent their army hot on his trail. Now he's met up with undead Benjy, someone who was found by the cotf before Bran ever left Winterfell and can hopefully help him understand the magic he's been given now that the cotf are gone.
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Post by Enid on Jun 1, 2016 5:18:43 GMT
I hope that legend doesn't mean Meera dies. She has been amazing the last few episodes.
Bran's storyline may slow down now that he is out of the cave, they can't show him running from the wights all the time, but now that he is with Benjen, we may get more information about the Others and how Bran's magic works.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 1, 2016 6:07:56 GMT
I hope that legend doesn't mean Meera dies. She has been amazing the last few episodes. Bran's storyline may slow down now that he is out of the cave, they can't show him running from the wights all the time, but now that he is with Benjen, we may get more information about the Others and how Bran's magic works. i hope so too, she's been through so much herself. i think they should be safer now i was also wondering if bran was gonna disappear until the finale like he did in s4. i'd like benjen to appear in more than two eps, we've got a lot of catching up to do. but they've really been burning through bran's material, i certainly was not expecting him to leave the cave midseason. |
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Post by Enid on Jun 1, 2016 6:11:35 GMT
I hope that legend doesn't mean Meera dies. She has been amazing the last few episodes. Bran's storyline may slow down now that he is out of the cave, they can't show him running from the wights all the time, but now that he is with Benjen, we may get more information about the Others and how Bran's magic works. i hope so too, she's been through so much herself. i think they should be safer now i was also wondering if bran was gonna disappear until the finale like he did in s4. i'd like benjen to appear in more than two eps, we've got a lot of catching up to do. but they've really been burning through bran's material, i certainly was not expecting him to leave the cave midseason. IIRC, they released a promo picture before the season began of Bran atop of a donkey or a horse, awake and out of the cave, and we haven't seen that scene yet, hopefully that means Bran will appear again before the season finale. |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 1, 2016 6:15:36 GMT
i hope so too, she's been through so much herself. i think they should be safer now i was also wondering if bran was gonna disappear until the finale like he did in s4. i'd like benjen to appear in more than two eps, we've got a lot of catching up to do. but they've really been burning through bran's material, i certainly was not expecting him to leave the cave midseason. IIRC, they released a promo picture before the season began of Bran atop of a donkey or a horse, awake and out of the cave, and we haven't seen that scene yet, hopefully that means Bran will appear again before the season finale. fafarawaysite thinks that pic is from the finale, but i guess they could be wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 7:14:17 GMT
A lot of people talk about how jon or dany will be the hero in the war with the White walkers.
But what part exactly is Bran going to play? Now that he is out of the cave, i have no idea. I always assumed he would affect and oversee characters from the cave, make sure that secrets to defeating the white walkers were uncovered etc. Now that he, meera and benjen are out in the open where will he go? further North or south to Winterfell?
The Night's king specifically targeting Bran must mean he will be important to defeating him, but he could have also targeted him so Bran could pass through the wall and thus undo the magic there. I think this is likely to happen, but i also think he will have a bigger part to play. But bran has no use of his legs and probably won't be able to physically fight him. I hope he uses some of the skills he learnt in the cave, skinchanging etc to fight the walkers. And part of his role as the 3EC might be ensuring that characters like Dany and Jon are in place to defeat the night king. I just feel like he also will do something else. Just don't know what that is yet.
All Bran has ever wanted is to be brave, noble knight. This was taken away from him in the first episode. Perhaps he will end up doing something brave in the end. I think it would be a nice way to round out his arc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 7:36:33 GMT
^I just hope he doesn't warg a dragon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 7:47:11 GMT
Bran the Builder, Bran the Breaker, Bran the Broken. I can't help but feel like that's how our own Brandon Stark will be remembered in the years to come. I haven't read any of the posts here yet (except the one I've quoted below) but I just want to say that the fandom vastly underestimates Bran's importance to the story and that I think he is the key to everything, not Jon or Dany. And he will be the Stark in Winterfell when all the dust has settled imo, which is foreshadowed quite a bit in AGOT. ^I just hope he doesn't warg a dragon. I hope he does. Bran warging a dragon would be loads better than tyrion riding one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 7:50:58 GMT
^I just hope he doesn't warg a dragon. hmm i'm not exactly opposed to it. I'd rather that than jon and tyrion suddenly becoming dragon riders. And 3ER said he would fly... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 8:01:09 GMT
Still don't like it. Jon is a Targaryen, why shouldn't he ride a dragon? Especially when one of them is named after his father.
Tyrion has been obsessed with dragons his entire life. He studied them, dreamed about them, and probably knows more about them than anyone living. Him riding a dragon didn't exactly come out of nowhere. There's even people who support the theory of A+J=T. That I'm not so sure of, but I do think he's one of the 3 heads of the dragon. I really don't understand why people are so against it. Other than him being a dwarf and they think it will look funny.
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Post by MarcusAntonius on Jun 1, 2016 8:04:32 GMT
. ^I just hope he doesn't warg a dragon. I hope he does. Bran warging a dragon would be loads better than tyrion riding one. Agreed x1000 I've always been on board with Bran warging a dragon |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 8:15:35 GMT
Bran the Builder, Bran the Breaker, Bran the Broken. I can't help but feel like that's how our own Brandon Stark will be remembered in the years to come. I haven't read any of the posts here yet (except the one I've quoted below) but I just want to say that the fandom vastly underestimates Bran's importance to the story and that I think he is the key to everything, not Jon or Dany. And he will be the Stark in Winterfell when all the dust has settled imo, which is foreshadowed quite a bit in AGOT.^I just hope he doesn't warg a dragon. I hope he does. Bran warging a dragon would be loads better than tyrion riding one. How does that work with your idea that Sansa will be the QotN? |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 1, 2016 8:25:44 GMT
A lot of people talk about how jon or dany will be the hero in the war with the White walkers. But what part exactly is Bran going to play? Now that he is out of the cave, i have no idea. I always assumed he would affect and oversee characters from the cave, make sure that secrets to defeating the white walkers were uncovered etc. Now that he, meera and benjen are out in the open where will he go? further North or south to Winterfell? i assumed they're heading south bc that's the direction people usually go when running from the white walkers. i really don't want bran's mark to bring the wall down. he doesn't need more blame so soon after hodor's death. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 8:30:58 GMT
A lot of people talk about how jon or dany will be the hero in the war with the White walkers. But what part exactly is Bran going to play? Now that he is out of the cave, i have no idea. I always assumed he would affect and oversee characters from the cave, make sure that secrets to defeating the white walkers were uncovered etc. Now that he, meera and benjen are out in the open where will he go? further North or south to Winterfell? i assumed they're heading south bc that's the direction people usually go when running from the white walkers. i really don't want bran's mark to bring the wall down. he doesn't need more blame so soon after hodor's death. I think it makes the most sense though. It got the WW into the cave, I assume it will get them past the Wall. I can't remember, was the horn of winter ever mentioned much after they found it? |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 1, 2016 8:33:55 GMT
i assumed they're heading south bc that's the direction people usually go when running from the white walkers. i really don't want bran's mark to bring the wall down. he doesn't need more blame so soon after hodor's death. I think it makes the most sense though. It got the WW into the cave, I assume it will get them past the Wall. I can't remember, was the horn of winter ever mentioned much after they found it? on the show, you mean? the phrase horn of winter has never been used, tho yeah, sam did find it with the dragonglass. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 8:36:33 GMT
I think it makes the most sense though. It got the WW into the cave, I assume it will get them past the Wall. I can't remember, was the horn of winter ever mentioned much after they found it? on the show, you mean? the phrase horn of winter has never been used, tho yeah, sam did find it with the dragonglass. What ever happened to it? Is it in Gendy's rowboat?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 9:24:53 GMT
i assumed they're heading south bc that's the direction people usually go when running from the white walkers. i really don't want bran's mark to bring the wall down. he doesn't need more blame so soon after hodor's death. I think it makes the most sense though. It got the WW into the cave, I assume it will get them past the Wall. I can't remember, was the horn of winter ever mentioned much after they found it? it doesn't. Sansa as QitN is not something I have ever seriously believed would happen and if it ever does, it will be temporary at best. It's what I want to happen, obviously, but not what I have ever thought genuinely would. EDIT: quoted the right person but wrong post. Oops |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 10:49:53 GMT
A lot of people talk about how jon or dany will be the hero in the war with the White walkers. But what part exactly is Bran going to play? Now that he is out of the cave, i have no idea. I always assumed he would affect and oversee characters from the cave, make sure that secrets to defeating the white walkers were uncovered etc. Now that he, meera and benjen are out in the open where will he go? further North or south to Winterfell? i assumed they're heading south bc that's the direction people usually go when running from the white walkers. i really don't want bran's mark to bring the wall down. he doesn't need more blame so soon after hodor's death. I don't think bran has a choice. Thats the only way he might survive. Yeh people will blame him hard if he ends up being responsible for that too |
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Post by kingeomer on Jun 1, 2016 12:30:05 GMT
^I just hope he doesn't warg a dragon. hmm i'm not exactly opposed to it. I'd rather that than jon and tyrion suddenly becoming dragon riders. And 3ER said he would fly... I've always thought that Bran was meant to ride a dragon via warging. Mainly because 3ER did say he would fly. I agree with the comments that the mark on Bran by the Night's King might be the trick to neutralize the magic at the Wall that allows the white walkers to pass through. But how would Bran know that? And he might not have much of a choice, if he also has to warn Westeros of the great danger it is facing (basically confirming what Jon has been saying all along). I do think, or hope, that Bran is the Stark in Winterfell. It would be interesting to have a Stark in charge that also has some other- worldy aspect to him. |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 1, 2016 18:29:28 GMT
hmm i'm not exactly opposed to it. I'd rather that than jon and tyrion suddenly becoming dragon riders. And 3ER said he would fly... I've always thought that Bran was meant to ride a dragon via warging. Mainly because 3ER did say he would fly. I agree with the comments that the mark on Bran by the Night's King might be the trick to neutralize the magic at the Wall that allows the white walkers to pass through. But how would Bran know that? And he might not have much of a choice, if he also has to warn Westeros of the great danger it is facing (basically confirming what Jon has been saying all along). I do think, or hope, that Bran is the Stark in Winterfell. It would be interesting to have a Stark in charge that also has some other- worldy aspect to him.it would be a return to stark roots. i've never understood the idea that bran's magic plotline precludes him from being a lord again when the first lord of winterfell is associated with giants and the cotf and warging is in the stark blood. bloodraven was a politician before he went north, while also being a sorcerer and warg. he had a full life of magic and the game of thrones. bran hasn't even had a full childhood, so it seems especially cruel to think bran should be stuck in bloodraven's nursing home from the mere age of 10. |
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