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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 8:15:38 GMT
Ellie and Kristian most of all. But Emilia, Sophie and Iain Glen were also really solid. Also a shout-out to Ania Bukstein and Conleth. Ania for making a high, benign-sounding voice suddenly intimidating and Conleth for his ever-present mastery of reaction shots. There's a great sense of foreboding in the Kinvara/Varys scene, excellently played by both of them. Yes, Jon and Dany will be key to saving the world but the messiah propaganda around them is going to bring about a lot of pain and violence.That Kinvara sees the dragons as R'hllor's holy weapons is pretty telling in itself. The fact that the show's outright named both of them as AA candidates now makes me want to bet on the dark horses in that race.  I don't think it'll be someone too out of left field and it's still probably one of those two (or them together) in all likelihood...but I could also see it being a less suspected character at this point too. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 8:18:50 GMT
It's them together. And probably Tyrion as well as the 3rd head of the dragon.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on May 23, 2016 8:18:50 GMT
There's a great sense of foreboding in the Kinvara/Varys scene, excellently played by both of them. Yes, Jon and Dany will be key to saving the world but the messiah propaganda around them is going to bring about a lot of pain and violence.That Kinvara sees the dragons as R'hllor's holy weapons is pretty telling in itself. The fact that the show's outright named both of them as AA candidates now makes me want to bet on the dark horses in that race. I don't think it'll be someone too out of left field and it's still probably one of those two (or them together) in all likelihood...but I could also see it being a less suspected character at this point too. I think it'll be a mixture of several characters. The show doesn't seem to be building up to a "one hero will solve everything" story. In fact, the red priests' BS and contradictions is probably a hint that isn't going to happen. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 8:37:28 GMT
The fact that the show's outright named both of them as AA candidates now makes me want to bet on the dark horses in that race. I don't think it'll be someone too out of left field and it's still probably one of those two (or them together) in all likelihood...but I could also see it being a less suspected character at this point too. I think it'll be a mixture of several characters. The show doesn't seem to be building up to a "one hero will solve everything" story. In fact, the red priests' BS and contradictions is probably a hint that isn't going to happen. I think the Red Priests are both wrong and right. One is now linked to Dany and Tyrion. One is now linked to Jon even though she got to him via Stannis (Stannis led her to him), and a third is on the loose in the Riverlands and knows only that a strange power to bring people back to life is with him and he is waiting to figure out what to do with it. In the case of Thoros, it was always clear that Beric was not AA. However in a similar way to Stannis leading the way to Jon, Beric's story started Thoros on the path to finding the dragon head that he will eventually find and serve, and Catelyn's revival was a link in that chain of events. Anyway on topic: I was a great episode, but in terms of acting that really made me feel it, I have to go with Emilia and Alfie |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 8:46:40 GMT
I think it'll be a mixture of several characters. The show doesn't seem to be building up to a "one hero will solve everything" story. In fact, the red priests' BS and contradictions is probably a hint that isn't going to happen. I think the Red Priests are both wrong and right. One is now linked to Dany and Tyrion. One is now linked to Jon even though she got to him via Stannis (Stannis led her to him), and a third is on the loose in the Riverlands and knows only that a strange power to bring people back to life is with him and he is waiting to figure out what to do with it. In the case of Thoros, it was always clear that Beric was not AA. However in a similar way to Stannis leading the way to Jon, Beric's story started Thoros on the path to finding the dragon head that he will eventually find and serve, and Catelyn's revival was a link in that chain of events. Anyway on topic: I was a great episode, but in terms of acting that really made me feel it, I have to go with Emilia and Alfie I'm confused, who's the dragon head you think Thoros will serve? |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 8:48:42 GMT
I think the Red Priests are both wrong and right. One is now linked to Dany and Tyrion. One is now linked to Jon even though she got to him via Stannis (Stannis led her to him), and a third is on the loose in the Riverlands and knows only that a strange power to bring people back to life is with him and he is waiting to figure out what to do with it. In the case of Thoros, it was always clear that Beric was not AA. However in a similar way to Stannis leading the way to Jon, Beric's story started Thoros on the path to finding the dragon head that he will eventually find and serve, and Catelyn's revival was a link in that chain of events. Anyway on topic: I was a great episode, but in terms of acting that really made me feel it, I have to go with Emilia and Alfie I'm confused, who's the dragon head you think Thoros will serve? I'd say Jaime but someone might slap me. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 8:48:48 GMT
I think the Red Priests are both wrong and right. One is now linked to Dany and Tyrion. One is now linked to Jon even though she got to him via Stannis (Stannis led her to him), and a third is on the loose in the Riverlands and knows only that a strange power to bring people back to life is with him and he is waiting to figure out what to do with it. In the case of Thoros, it was always clear that Beric was not AA. However in a similar way to Stannis leading the way to Jon, Beric's story started Thoros on the path to finding the dragon head that he will eventually find and serve, and Catelyn's revival was a link in that chain of events. Anyway on topic: I was a great episode, but in terms of acting that really made me feel it, I have to go with Emilia and Alfie I'm confused, who's the dragon head you think Thoros will serve? I don't know! I only know the third head has not yet been found. It is a chain of events that has not concluded. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 8:50:04 GMT
The third head is in Meereen. That's pretty darn far from the Riverlands.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 8:52:13 GMT
The third head is in Meereen. That's pretty darn far from the Riverlands. We'll see! But there are a few possibilities: 1. If Tyrion and Dany are both dragon heads, Tyrion becoming this will not happen until his story joins up with the Riverlands story. or, 2. Dany and Tyrion are not both dragon heads. And this option may not work out the way people assume: Dany may also be a red herring in the sense that she is the mother of dragons but is not AA, and the priestess who serves her is being led to Tyrion. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 9:00:31 GMT
Dany isn't a red herring. I'm sorry, but that's one of the worst theories among the fandom.
There's a reason all the prophecy stuff in the books are in her chapters. The theme of 3 also runs heavily throughout her storyline.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 9:22:25 GMT
Dany isn't a red herring. I'm sorry, but that's one of the worst theories among the fandom. There's a reason all the prophecy stuff in the books are in her chapters. The theme of 3 also runs heavily throughout her storyline. I don't see it as the obvious outcome at all to be sure, but prophesies being in her chapters does IMO not at all mean she is AA. She is simply the only living known Targaryen and therefore "dragon" left so these theories, as well as prophesies related to dragons will naturally be attributed to her, rightly or wrongly by readers and characters interested in such prophesies alike. She is definitely a "dragon". Noone really disputes that. She definitely hatched three actual dragons, making her the Mother of Dragons. Noone disputes that. But she is not invincible. She could die, and then what? She could choose love over ruling and then what? She could go mad and then what? There is still so much we don't know. She shows some signs of possibly being more like a fire magic version of the Night's King than a saviour. Rather than part of a triad of heroes she may evolve into something those heroes need to fight. And then what? These are the ways she could turn out to be a red herring as far as the prophesies go. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 9:28:30 GMT
I've had too many of these discussions elsewhere. Not interested in getting into another. I'll stick with the show for now.
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 23, 2016 10:58:59 GMT
Sophie's solid performances have become a standard for her so she'll be on this thread every week This week's stand-outs for me were Emilia and Iain. The first time I have liked Emilia's acting in a long time. And, of course, Kristian  |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 11:27:25 GMT
I've had too many of these discussions elsewhere. Not interested in getting into another. I'll stick with the show for now. That's fine. I think we should be clear that at no point did I say my position is she is certainly not AA or one of the dragon heads or whatever else. I simply consider many possibilities concurrently. But so many people on forums seem to think a person can only hold a single position and if they argue the merits of one then they must be against all opposing options. That is not the case. I do not see the point at all in closing doors when speculating about future events in fictional worlds ( unless they are clear idiocy such as Benjen = Daario, or HR = HS). I find it much more interesting to consider options and think about where each one could take the story. |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on May 23, 2016 11:54:33 GMT
* Everyone in Bran's team. Kristian and Ellie in particular gave their best acting ever in the show.
* Ian and Emilia.
* Ania Bukstein (Kinvara) made quite an impression in her debut.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 13:33:54 GMT
Emilia Clarke.
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Post by Zadeth on May 23, 2016 15:19:07 GMT
Kristian and the boy who played Wilas.
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Post by mandzipop on May 23, 2016 19:19:23 GMT
Everyone involved in Carry On Up Kings Landing. Just kidding. I can't choose. Too many candidates. I'll go with both versions of Hodor (for emotional reasons  ) |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 23, 2016 21:32:24 GMT
Ellie Kendrick Kristian Nairn The actor playing Young Hodor  Gemma Whalen Alfie Allen (these last two can't be praised enough for is season IMO) edit: and special shout out to the Theatre Performance which I absolutely loved. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 21:33:51 GMT
Emilia, Conleth and Kristian. Sophie's potrayal of ruthless Sansa deserves a mention.  |
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I don't think it'll be someone too out of left field and it's still probably one of those two (or them together) in all likelihood...but I could also see it being a less suspected character at this point too.
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