6x04 POST-Episode Discussion (airs 15th May)

Sorry for the thread derail folks.

It happens all the time in these threads. No need to apologize. 

Haha! This is gold! 

I hope we will see more Tormund and Brienne in the near future. 

I don't see how its anymore disgusting than any of the other gore on the show.

But its not like they would show her shitting herself anyway.

I think you're right. I don't really care for it, but I guess it is what it is.

I'm thinking they made Tyrion less grey because he is one of the main characters that we need to empathize with, and an HBO audience would have trouble empathizing with him after some of the stuff he does in the books. I think that's partly because in the book we have the benefit of his thoughts, so we can accept that there is some bad in with the mostly good, but on the show we'll only get to see actions. I think the other reason is that GRRM actually took Tyrion a little too dark in ADWD. I know that's controversial to say, since he's his character, but I didn't think some of that felt "true." And then there's one more possible reason. Maybe he's going to fuck up big time in Meereen, and we need to still like him before he does that. 

Tyrion could have been a little darker in the show and the audience probably would have understood why. But ultimately, without giving him the Essos story he had in the book (which most agree they are happy was omitted) it's much more difficult to do that. I imagine the writers decided to just leave him neutral in favor of moving the story along more swiftly. I'm one of the few who actually liked Tyrion's trip along the river with Connington and crew so I think it's fair to say most don't care to see more Tyrion than we already do. People see hints of his arrogance and Missandei just called him out for not really understanding the true perspective of slaves so the Lannister is still there in him. That's really all the more the show needs.

Jaime and Tyrion meeting again would happen if Jaime's still alive by the time Dany reaches Westeros. But by that point, where will House Lannister be and will it matter anymore? I look forward to finding out. 

It's not the only time D&D have had a tin ear for how to manufacture a plot element. I mean this season Doran Martell , Areo Hotah and Trystane Martell are eliminated as if they were blips on a Pac Man screen!
I still remember Roxanne McKee being irradiated that they changed the S2 teleplay while in production , somewhat cavalierly , seemingly messing with her work calendar. ( I think after that they tried to give heads up.)
It's still interesting that Amrita Acharia is still listed in Cast and Crew but not McKee and Roxanne had a bit more screen time.

It is a pleasant surprise.

The focus on ratings stopped which is overall a good thing. It is also a very narrow rating being discussed. However, I do think it saids a lot of how many are willing to watch the first showing.

I thought the show holding the audience for Season 5 was an amazing accomplishment. That it is on pace to have a strong increase is just a statement of how compelling the show continues to be.

Alt-Shift-X has his review up. I like his assessment of the King's Landing politics and he seems to think there's more going on than what Cersei told Olenna and Kevan was the 'secret' from Tommen as well.