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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on May 4, 2016 4:54:35 GMT
What do you think, people? They will show the whole thing (including "Promise me, Ned" and "R+L=J") next Sunday or this will be a two part flashback? I think it'll be the whole thing. Yeah, I can't believe they'd show this on Mother's Day and not reveal Jon's mother yet. |
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Post by mau on May 4, 2016 6:49:11 GMT
What do you think, people? They will show the whole thing (including "Promise me, Ned" and "R+L=J") next Sunday or this will be a two part flashback? The whole thing. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 7:12:45 GMT
Lol why would BR show him the vision of TOJ and not want him to see the most important part of it though I guess for the same reason he split the WF vision in two. I think it'll all be one go myself but it would make sense of the shooting info we got if it was split. Sounds like a tease to me |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 7:15:24 GMT
I guess for the same reason he split the WF vision in two. I think it'll all be one go myself but it would make sense of the shooting info we got if it was split. Sounds like a tease to me Oh totally. Which would be the point, I think. Isaac's said in interviews that Bran gets "arrogant" so I think the whole point of BR warning him about getting lost in the visions is that Bran will go against BR's word and go into a dream without him, triggering his meeting with the NK and perhaps even the NK's invasion of the cave. Bran will get frustrated with the little tease-images and defy his mentor to delve deeper, perhaps at a great cost. Whether that means splitting the ToJ in two or just the WF vision though, I dunno. Hopefully it's not split in two though because that'd ruin the flow of it imho. |
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Post by archiechvyalthan on May 4, 2016 7:48:52 GMT
This from the episode looks like Bloodraven at least trying to bring Bran back from the vision.  If he does successfully I guess it'll be a two-parter like the WF one but I think this shot points to him failing this time, and Bran going into the Tower despite BR not wanting him to. (You can see the dead from the fight behind him, as he looks probably at Bran entering the Tower).  I could see this happening. Max looks really pissed off in the episode 5 picture also. Don't test his patience, Bran. |
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Post by Zadeth on May 4, 2016 9:41:16 GMT
So new characters we're meeting this episode: * Howland Reed and Arthur Dayne + Young Ned at the Tower of Joy*The Dosh Khaleen and potentially Khal Rhalko, Khal Forzo, and other khal they cast *I would assume Kinvara appears here too as a parallel to Volantis being introduced in 503, but if they mainly focus on Razdal and the masters of Yunkai, I guess she might not appear until 604. I can't wait to see the young High Sparrow. |
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Post by Nezzer on May 4, 2016 11:02:19 GMT
Do we know if the Kingsguard speaking in the promo is really Arthur Dayne? And who's the other dude? Whent, Hightower or someone else entirely?
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 4, 2016 12:16:09 GMT
Do we know if the Kingsguard speaking in the promo is really Arthur Dayne? And who's the other dude? Whent, Hightower or someone else entirely? I don't know this (so there might be spoilers leaked that say otherwise) but I imagine if anyone else was name dropped in season 4 when Joffrey was reading the White Book it will be them. I'd have to rewatch the scene to check though |
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Post by Nezzer on May 4, 2016 12:20:33 GMT
Do we know if the Kingsguard speaking in the promo is really Arthur Dayne? And who's the other dude? Whent, Hightower or someone else entirely? I don't know this (so there might be spoilers leaked that say otherwise) but I imagine if anyone else was name dropped in season 4 when Joffrey was reading the White Book it will be them. I'd have to rewatch the scene to check though I think Joff only mentioned Jaime, Dayne and Dunk. Obviously it can't be Dunk as he died decades before ToJ and I can't be Jaime either. I think it's more likely that they won't even mention his name. |
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 4, 2016 13:47:40 GMT
I don't know this (so there might be spoilers leaked that say otherwise) but I imagine if anyone else was name dropped in season 4 when Joffrey was reading the White Book it will be them. I'd have to rewatch the scene to check though I think Joff only mentioned Jaime, Dayne and Dunk. Obviously it can't be Dunk as he died decades before ToJ and I can't be Jaime either. I think it's more likely that they won't even mention his name. I think they'll at least mention the name of the one who does the talking |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 13:50:45 GMT
I think Joff only mentioned Jaime, Dayne and Dunk. Obviously it can't be Dunk as he died decades before ToJ and I can't be Jaime either. I think it's more likely that they won't even mention his name. I think they'll at least mention the name of the one who does the talking Dayne was namedropped in ep. 401 (and his page in the White Book when paused upon said that Ned killed him) so I think we'll at least hear that name. |
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 4, 2016 13:54:15 GMT
Do we know if the Kingsguard speaking in the promo is really Arthur Dayne? And who's the other dude? Whent, Hightower or someone else entirely? I don't know this (so there might be spoilers leaked that say otherwise) but I imagine if anyone else was name dropped in season 4 when Joffrey was reading the White Book it will be them. I'd have to rewatch the scene to check though I think they'll at least mention the name of the one who does the talking Dayne was namedropped in ep. 401 (and his page in the White Book when paused upon said that Ned killed him) so I think we'll at least hear that name. Good call  |
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Post by boojam on May 4, 2016 15:57:03 GMT
So, I guess the Wildlings just kind of hang out at Castle Black?
We didn't really find out where they went, Molestown would not be welcoming.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 15:58:13 GMT
So, I guess the Wildlings just kind of hang out at Castle Black? We didn't really find out where they went, Molestown would not be welcoming.The Gift. It was stated multiple times in Season 5 that the wildlings would be settling in the Gift. |
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Post by boojam on May 4, 2016 16:15:27 GMT
So, I guess the Wildlings just kind of hang out at Castle Black? We didn't really find out where they went, Molestown would not be welcoming.The Gift. It was stated multiple times in Season 5 that the wildlings would be settling in the Gift. Missed that. |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 4, 2016 16:40:20 GMT
So, I guess the Wildlings just kind of hang out at Castle Black? We didn't really find out where they went, Molestown would not be welcoming. Molestown burned already anyway |
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Post by lordcarson on May 4, 2016 18:34:54 GMT
qyburn pls  |
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Post by archiechvyalthan on May 4, 2016 19:02:02 GMT
qyburn pls Lots of new pictures. This is the only one that tells us something new, though. Do you think it's from the same scene as Jaime and Cersei's from the promo? |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 19:17:55 GMT
Sounds like a tease to me Oh totally. Which would be the point, I think. Isaac's said in interviews that Bran gets "arrogant" so I think the whole point of BR warning him about getting lost in the visions is that Bran will go against BR's word and go into a dream without him, triggering his meeting with the NK and perhaps even the NK's invasion of the cave. Bran will get frustrated with the little tease-images and defy his mentor to delve deeper, perhaps at a great cost. Whether that means splitting the ToJ in two or just the WF vision though, I dunno. Hopefully it's not split in two though because that'd ruin the flow of it imho. I think the hint Isaac gave us is solid evidence he's going to defy Bloodraven and see something he wasn't supposed to see. As to WHY exactly BR is being this controlling with him, I can only think it's some sort of mysterious parallel to Arya's "training" in that he's being tested, repeatedly, to make sure he can handle this greenseer gig and not lose himself in it - whereas with Arya that's exactly what they want her to do... lose herself and forget her past. Bran doesn't want to forget the past and wants to know more and more ... which could lead to him discovering that he can actually communicate and influence the past. That's where the butterfly effect comes in and Bloodraven probably knows it and needs to keep Bran away from that time wrinkle shit. |
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Post by breakfest on May 4, 2016 19:19:25 GMT
Qyburn's utilising the little birds then, think a few people predicted this and it makes sense for the character as opposed to show Varys. Qyburn wouldn't have much to do this season, I guess they're setting this one up for down the line.
There's also a picture of Tommen and Pycelle that was down for last episode but presumably is actually going to be in this episode. Wonder if we'll see Kevan too.
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