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Post by boojam on Mar 27, 2016 9:14:27 GMT
This has come up several times recently: “People are talking about whether the books are going to be spoiled – and it’s really not true,” Benioff told EW. “So much of what we’re doing diverges from the books at this point. And while there are certain key elements that will be the same, we’re not going to talk so much about that – and I don’t think George is either. People are going to be very surprised when they read the books after the show. They’re quite divergent in so many respects for the remainder of the show.” Nobody asks why. I mean from the five books we have the Sansa story is wildly different , this has nothing to do with story from Winds of Winter even if she does show in the North in Winds. (Actually the excerpt chapters from Winds of Winter have a totally different story for Ser Barristan, actually some of that comes from Dance of Dragons, we lost that narrative.) Hibberd implies in the article that the 'broad strokes' are so broad that main narrative story is totally unknown , yet Benioff explicitly said last season how surprised he was when George told him Shireen dies, that no broad stroke , that's a detail. All five novels existed when D&D&B had those many day long powwows in Santa Fe , they had to talk about Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring, and even if that was 'broad strokes', there had to be character arcs talked about. So what's the deal, an arrangement with GRRM? (Or is it Bantam Books?) Just thumbing their noses at GRRM? Hibberd Interview |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Mar 27, 2016 14:22:52 GMT
This has come up several times recently: “People are talking about whether the books are going to be spoiled – and it’s really not true,” Benioff told EW. “So much of what we’re doing diverges from the books at this point. And while there are certain key elements that will be the same, we’re not going to talk so much about that – and I don’t think George is either. People are going to be very surprised when they read the books after the show. They’re quite divergent in so many respects for the remainder of the show.” Nobody asks why. I mean from the five books we have the Sansa story is wildly different , this has nothing to do with story from Winds of Winter even if she does show in the North in Winds. (Actually the excerpt chapters from Winds of Winter have a totally different story for Ser Barristan, actually some of that comes from Dance of Dragons, we lost that narrative.) Hibberd implies in the article that the 'broad strokes' are so broad that main narrative story is totally unknown , yet Benioff explicitly said last season how surprised he was when George told him Shireen dies, that no broad stroke , that's a detail. All five novels existed when D&D&B had those many day long powwows in Santa Fe , they had to talk about Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring, and even if that was 'broad strokes', there had to be character arcs talked about. So what's the deal, an arrangement with GRRM? (Or is it Bantam Books?) Just thumbing their noses at GRRM? Hibberd InterviewI think people are reading too much on their words. They didn't say anything new, really. The "key elements" (a.k.a., the fate of the main characters) will be the same, but the paths to get there will be different. Maybe they didn't choose the right words, but I think they put it that way because they don't want book readers to feel disappointed or alienated by watching the show and finding out the ending. Besides, I think is a sign of respect for GRRM. They are saying to the audience: "Watch the show. Enjoy it. Then read the books, they won't be the same. The books will have many surprises and unexpected twists and you will enjoy it the same". No big deal. |
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Post by lordcarson on Mar 27, 2016 14:27:16 GMT
We've talked about this in like three other threads already.
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Post by boojam on Mar 27, 2016 14:49:41 GMT
This has come up several times recently: “People are talking about whether the books are going to be spoiled – and it’s really not true,” Benioff told EW. “So much of what we’re doing diverges from the books at this point. And while there are certain key elements that will be the same, we’re not going to talk so much about that – and I don’t think George is either. People are going to be very surprised when they read the books after the show. They’re quite divergent in so many respects for the remainder of the show.” Nobody asks why. I mean from the five books we have the Sansa story is wildly different , this has nothing to do with story from Winds of Winter even if she does show in the North in Winds. (Actually the excerpt chapters from Winds of Winter have a totally different story for Ser Barristan, actually some of that comes from Dance of Dragons, we lost that narrative.) Hibberd implies in the article that the 'broad strokes' are so broad that main narrative story is totally unknown , yet Benioff explicitly said last season how surprised he was when George told him Shireen dies, that no broad stroke , that's a detail. All five novels existed when D&D&B had those many day long powwows in Santa Fe , they had to talk about Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring, and even if that was 'broad strokes', there had to be character arcs talked about. So what's the deal, an arrangement with GRRM? (Or is it Bantam Books?) Just thumbing their noses at GRRM? Hibberd InterviewI think people are reading too much on their words. They didn't say anything new, really. The "key elements" (a.k.a., the fate of the main characters) will be the same, but the paths to get there will be different. Maybe they didn't choose the right words, but I think they put it that way because they don't want book readers to feel disappointed or alienated by watching the show and finding out the ending. Besides, I think is a sign of respect for GRRM. They are saying to the audience: "Watch the show. Enjoy it. Then read the books, they won't be the same. The books will have many surprises and unexpected twists and you will enjoy it the same". No big deal. I enjoy the books and the show in different ways. Just curious since there are some mysteries here. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 10:59:33 GMT
This statement by D&D corresponds exactly to what I have been saying since season 5:
Show changes are not just about making it all work for TV (though that is also true) but also about slowly branching away from the source material to tell their own version of the story. When characters have different experiences, different insights into the past (Tyrion and Jaime) and vastly altered arcs (Sansa) it keeps us all guessing what is "on book" and what is not in future seasons because we no longer know what they have changed and what they have not.
That is great! I look forward to season 6AND to eventually reading WoW.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 21:08:35 GMT
While they didn't say anything really different than before, the implication certainly felt different than before to me. I was glad to hear this, actually, and it made me hopeful that I won't be disappointed when the books finally come out. When the TV series first came out I wanted it to follow the show religiously, but since the books aren't done, and it has already veered, I am now hoping for two similar but distinct stories, so that I'll still be able to enjoy the book version some day. Obviously, I expect them to stick to the main outlines. I assume the story won't make sense if they try to force something radically different than GRRM originally intended.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Apr 2, 2016 3:01:21 GMT
watchersonthewall.com/game-of-thrones-season-6-not-affected-by-fan-criticism-says-showrunners/He (Weiss) denies any changes being made to season 6 as a result of controversy, and leaves no room for doubt in his statement. “I can literally say that not one word of the scripts this season have been changed in any way, shape or form by what people said on the Internet, or elsewhere.”
His partner Benioff offers his own perspective on the matter- from a long-term planning point of view. “The thing that’s slightly frustrating is the idea that we’re responding to criticism from last year, so therefore we’re going to beef up the female roles – that’s blatantly untrue.” He explains that the plotlines have been planned for quite a long time and therefore what we see in season 6 won’t have anything to do with internet feedback.
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