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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 25, 2016 1:35:57 GMT
I just wanted a spot to share our end game predictions for the story. I know this is very general, but I love hearing speculations and stuff, so I'll take what I can get.
Daenerys will do whatever with the Dothraki.
Cersei will be found innoncent, Marg will be released, Loras will be executed.
Doran will execute Ellaria.
Melisandre will resurrect Jon Snow.
Jon and Sansa will meet up and take Wintefell, Rickon gets injured in the process.
Lannister and Tyrell will team up to take down the High Sparrow, but then turn on each other.
Varys goes back to Westeros, causing strife in the Capitol and making alliances with Dorne for Dany.
The Wall will fall, White Walkers will flood into Westeros.
Jon will leave to go fight White Walkers. With Rickon injured, Sansa is the ruler of Winterfell. Littlefinger will try to weasel his way into her court, but she will find out what he did to Ned and have him killed.
Euron Greyjoy will pretty much just pillage whatever he can.
Daenerys will return to Mereen and set sail for Westeros. She will land on Dragonstone. She will learn of the civil war between the Lannisters and Tyrells, and will decide to go North to help defeat the White Walkers as a show of good faith.
Lannister vs Tyrell will pretty much just ravage Kings Landing and the surrounding areas.
Jon Snow fights White Walkers, meets up with Bran.
On her way North, Dany will kill Euron and take his army.
Dany meets Jon Snow and together they crush White Walkers.
Dany leaves Sansa in charge of Winterfell and Jon to rebuild the Night's Watch. She goes South to take back Kings Landing.
Lannisters manage to beat the Tyrells, Marg ends up dead, driving Tommen to kill himself. Cersei freaks the fuck out.
Dany is outside the city with Tyrion. Jaime also enters the city. Cersei goes crazy and sets off the Wildfire, rather dying and burning down the city than surrendering to Tyrion and some Targaryen girl.
Jaime and Cersei die together, Dany can't really take a wrecked city.
She rules from Dragonstone until KL is rebuilt.
SOOO I know that was a long read and even then I had to make some broad strokes. Hope you enjoyed. Share yours pleaseeee.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Mar 25, 2016 3:58:21 GMT
This is all plausible until you get to Dany going back south and ruling Westeros.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 13:30:17 GMT
I have long hoped Daenerys would take back Dragonstone as the original family seat of the Targaryens. There were the Aurane Waters bits in the book many overlooked. I know George often meanders on side stories but I Felt like having a known Targaryen supporter (Waters being a bastard of House Velaryon) take off with Cersei's ships and just happening to be over in that area was a great possibility as well as Dragonstone being empty and mostly unoccupied at the moment. I could see her ruling from there. Not as the Queen of the 7 Kingdoms overall but of her own territory. I don't think the 7 kingdoms and all of Westeros will ever be under one ruler again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 15:39:20 GMT
I have long hoped Daenerys would take back Dragonstone as the original family seat of the Targaryens. There were the Aurane Waters bits in the book many overlooked. I know George often meanders on side stories but I Felt like having a known Targaryen supporter (Waters being a bastard of House Velaryon) take off with Cersei's ships and just happening to be over in that area was a great possibility as well as Dragonstone being empty and mostly unoccupied at the moment. I could see her ruling from there. Not as the Queen of the 7 Kingdoms overall but of her own territory. I don't think the 7 kingdoms and all of Westeros will ever be under one ruler again. On top of that it is a beautiful location full of atmosphere with the Westeros table.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 15:51:39 GMT
Plus, she was born there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 19:50:12 GMT
Melisandre resurrects Jon, who with Davos kills all the mutineers. Sansa and Theon arrive at the Wall. Jon sends Theon away, while he, Davos, Mel, and Sansa go South to meet the wildlings. Edd gets elected the new Lord Commander.
Roose continues trolling Ramsay until he poisons his father. Ramsay blames Walda for this and kills her too. After that he summons the Umbers and Karstarks to Winterfell.
Jon wants to destroy Lord Ramsay for obvious reasons. The Mormonts, Cerwyns, Manderlys, and Hornwoods arrive to back him. LF arrives in the North, Jon sends Sansa to negotiate with him.
Snowbowl happens, the Umbers switch sides and reveal Rickon, who dies along with Shaggydog, Osha, Smalljon, Harald Karstark, Tormund and others. Jon executes Ramsay and Sansa kills LF. Davos revenges Shireen and Stannis by killing Melisandre.
Euron becomes king, sends Yara (and Theon) to Dany, and raids Oldtown, where he finds dragonhorn.
Dany becomes the leader of dothraki. She burns Meereen, Daario and Missandei die during the siege. With the help from the Greyjoys, she conquers Volantis before going to Westeros.
Jaime goes to Riverlands, where he negotiates with Blackfish, who gives up Riverrun. Brienne meets the Hound and Meribald, who dies. Jaime, Brienne, Blackfish, Edmure, and BwB (LSH??) create a second Red Wedding, where majority of Freys are killed.
In KL Loras is executed, Margaery is freed. Cersei orders FrankenMountain to kill all the sparrows. Mountain ends up killing Tommen. Cersei goes mad and burns down King's Landing. Jaime kills her, but fails to stop her. Sandor fights his zombified brother (CLEGANEBOWL GET HYPE) and wins, but the flames kill him too. Jaime survives.
In Braavos Arya escapes the FM and kills the waif. She goes back to Westeros, where she either kills LSH or if she is cut (which is more likely) kills Walder Frey in RW 2.0. After that she goes North to be united with Jon and Sansa.
Beyond the Wall Bran sees visions of things, including Jon's parentage. He finds out that Bloodraven and CotF are no good and escapes. At the same time the WW attack the cave. BR dies, along with Hodor. Coldhands saves Bran and Meera and takes them to the NK. Bran finds out the WW's motivations. The WW breach the Wall and destroy it. NK sends Bran to tell the humans that the pact is broken.
Doran executes Ellaria and allies with Dany. Euron steals one of Dany's dragons (Viserion) and the Greyjoys and Dany's army fight each other. Euron dies, Jorah and Viserion too. Tyrion and Jaime meet again. Tyrion abandons Dany and sides with his brother, who dies by dragonfire. Tyrion kills Varys. Dany hears about the WW and flies North, leaving the Lannisters and Tyrells alone.
Those are my thoughts for Seasons 6-7. I don't know what the Starks and the WW will do in S7 though.
In S8 Jon becomes the negotiator between NK and Dany. A huge battle ensues, Dany and her dragons are killed, NK too. The WW still want men out of their lands to honor 8000 years old pact of some kind. Jon decides to become a new Night's King and builds a new Wall. Bran becomes Lord of Winterfell. I have no idea who gets the Iron Throne.
Survivors of the entire series: Jon, Sansa, Bran, Tyrion, Davos, Sam, and others
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 19:56:26 GMT
Melisandre resurrects Jon, who with Davos kills all the mutineers. Sansa and Theon arrive at the Wall. Jon sends Theon away, while he, Davos, Mel, and Sansa go South to meet the wildlings. Edd gets elected the new Lord Commander. Roose continues trolling Ramsay until he poisons his father. Ramsay blames Walda for this and kills her too. After that he summons the Umbers and Karstarks to Winterfell. Jon wants to destroy Lord Ramsay for obvious reasons. The Mormonts, Cerwyns, Manderlys, and Hornwoods arrive to back him. LF arrives in the North, Jon sends Sansa to negotiate with him. Snowbowl happens, the Umbers switch sides and reveal Rickon, who dies along with Shaggydog, Osha, Smalljon, Harald Karstark, Tormund and others. Jon executes Ramsay and Sansa kills LF. Davos revenges Shireen and Stannis by killing Melisandre. Euron becomes king, sends Yara (and Theon) to Dany, and raids Oldtown, where he finds dragonhorn. Dany becomes the leader of dothraki. She burns Meereen, Daario and Missandei die during the siege. With the help from the Greyjoys, she conquers Volantis before going to Westeros. Jaime goes to Riverlands, where he negotiates with Blackfish, who gives up Riverrun. Brienne meets the Hound and Meribald, who dies. Jaime, Brienne, Blackfish, Edmure, and BwB (LSH??) create a second Red Wedding, where majority of Freys are killed. In KL Loras is executed, Margaery is freed. Cersei orders FrankenMountain to kill all the sparrows. Mountain ends up killing Tommen. Cersei goes mad and burns down King's Landing. Jaime kills her, but fails to stop her. Sandor fights his zombified brother (CLEGANEBOWL GET HYPE) and wins, but the flames kill him too. Jaime survives. In Braavos Arya escapes the FM and kills the waif. She goes back to Westeros, where she either kills LSH or if she is cut (which is more likely) kills Walder Frey in RW 2.0. After that she goes North to be united with Jon and Sansa. Beyond the Wall Bran sees visions of things, including Jon's parentage. He finds out that Bloodraven and CotF are no good and escapes. At the same time the WW attack the cave. BR dies, along with Hodor. Coldhands saves Bran and Meera and takes them to the NK. Bran finds out the WW's motivations. The WW breach the Wall and destroy it. NK sends Bran to tell the humans that the pact is broken. Doran executes Ellaria and allies with Dany. Euron steals one of Dany's dragons (Viserion) and the Greyjoys and Dany's army fight each other. Euron dies, Jorah and Viserion too. Tyrion and Jaime meet again. Tyrion abandons Dany and sides with his brother, who dies by dragonfire. Tyrion kills Varys. Dany hears about the WW and flies North, leaving the Lannisters and Tyrells alone. Those are my thoughts for Seasons 6-7. I don't know what the Starks and the WW will do in S7 though. In S8 Jon becomes the negotiator between NK and Dany. A huge battle ensues, Dany and her dragons are killed, NK too. The WW still want men out of their lands to honor 8000 years old pact of some kind. Jon decides to become a new Night's King and builds a new Wall. Bran becomes Lord of Winterfell. I have no idea who gets the Iron Throne. Survivors of the entire series: Jon, Sansa, Bran, Tyrion, Davos, Sam, and others Everyone better read this, it took half an hour to write.
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Post by boojam on Mar 25, 2016 22:20:10 GMT
The Wall will fall, White Walkers will flood into Westeros. Dany meets Jon Snow and together they crush White Walkers. The whole matter with the Others-Walkers-White-or-whatever will take more pages and episodes than this. Should become the whole focus for some while in WoW and Dream.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 25, 2016 22:49:50 GMT
Melisandre resurrects Jon, who with Davos kills all the mutineers. Sansa and Theon arrive at the Wall. Jon sends Theon away, while he, Davos, Mel, and Sansa go South to meet the wildlings. Edd gets elected the new Lord Commander. Roose continues trolling Ramsay until he poisons his father. Ramsay blames Walda for this and kills her too. After that he summons the Umbers and Karstarks to Winterfell. Jon wants to destroy Lord Ramsay for obvious reasons. The Mormonts, Cerwyns, Manderlys, and Hornwoods arrive to back him. LF arrives in the North, Jon sends Sansa to negotiate with him. Snowbowl happens, the Umbers switch sides and reveal Rickon, who dies along with Shaggydog, Osha, Smalljon, Harald Karstark, Tormund and others. Jon executes Ramsay and Sansa kills LF. Davos revenges Shireen and Stannis by killing Melisandre. Euron becomes king, sends Yara (and Theon) to Dany, and raids Oldtown, where he finds dragonhorn. Dany becomes the leader of dothraki. She burns Meereen, Daario and Missandei die during the siege. With the help from the Greyjoys, she conquers Volantis before going to Westeros. Jaime goes to Riverlands, where he negotiates with Blackfish, who gives up Riverrun. Brienne meets the Hound and Meribald, who dies. Jaime, Brienne, Blackfish, Edmure, and BwB (LSH??) create a second Red Wedding, where majority of Freys are killed. In KL Loras is executed, Margaery is freed. Cersei orders FrankenMountain to kill all the sparrows. Mountain ends up killing Tommen. Cersei goes mad and burns down King's Landing. Jaime kills her, but fails to stop her. Sandor fights his zombified brother (CLEGANEBOWL GET HYPE) and wins, but the flames kill him too. Jaime survives. In Braavos Arya escapes the FM and kills the waif. She goes back to Westeros, where she either kills LSH or if she is cut (which is more likely) kills Walder Frey in RW 2.0. After that she goes North to be united with Jon and Sansa. Beyond the Wall Bran sees visions of things, including Jon's parentage. He finds out that Bloodraven and CotF are no good and escapes. At the same time the WW attack the cave. BR dies, along with Hodor. Coldhands saves Bran and Meera and takes them to the NK. Bran finds out the WW's motivations. The WW breach the Wall and destroy it. NK sends Bran to tell the humans that the pact is broken. Doran executes Ellaria and allies with Dany. Euron steals one of Dany's dragons (Viserion) and the Greyjoys and Dany's army fight each other. Euron dies, Jorah and Viserion too. Tyrion and Jaime meet again. Tyrion abandons Dany and sides with his brother, who dies by dragonfire. Tyrion kills Varys. Dany hears about the WW and flies North, leaving the Lannisters and Tyrells alone. Those are my thoughts for Seasons 6-7. I don't know what the Starks and the WW will do in S7 though. In S8 Jon becomes the negotiator between NK and Dany. A huge battle ensues, Dany and her dragons are killed, NK too. The WW still want men out of their lands to honor 8000 years old pact of some kind. Jon decides to become a new Night's King and builds a new Wall. Bran becomes Lord of Winterfell. I have no idea who gets the Iron Throne. Survivors of the entire series: Jon, Sansa, Bran, Tyrion, Davos, Sam, and others Everyone better read this, it took half an hour to write. lol I appreciate it!! I think a lot of what you said is very likely to happen. What would you say Bran's relationship is with the WW? What's the pact?
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 25, 2016 22:56:45 GMT
The Wall will fall, White Walkers will flood into Westeros. Dany meets Jon Snow and together they crush White Walkers. The whole matter with the Others-Walkers-White-or-whatever will take more pages and episodes than this. Should become the whole focus for some while in WoW and Dream. I think by the time that happens, most of the other storylines will be wrapped up. Euron will be dead. Sansa and Rickon will be in control of the North. Arya and Bran will have accepted their fates, whatever they may be. Dany and Jon will really be the main characters at that point. NO ROMANCE. She is the Queen and he is a loyal knight. He controls the army. She controls the dragons. After they win, she leaves him to rebuild the Nights Watch and the Wall. The only thing that would still be going would be the war in the south. And, in my mind, it's just ravaging the lower half of the country. Jaime won't really play a part till the end, when he takes it upon himself to stop his sister before it's too late. As he's sneaking into the Red Keep with Sandor (CLEGANEBOWL), Daenerys is arriving at the city. Cersei nukes Kings Landing, and she and Jaime die together as the Red Keep slowly burns down. Dany will watch in terror as her "birthright" blows the fuck up.
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Post by boojam on Mar 26, 2016 1:23:05 GMT
The whole matter with the Others-Walkers-White-or-whatever will take more pages and episodes than this. Should become the whole focus for some while in WoW and Dream. I think by the time that happens, most of the other storylines will be wrapped up. Euron will be dead. Sansa and Rickon will be in control of the North. Arya and Bran will have accepted their fates, whatever they may be. Dany and Jon will really be the main characters at that point. NO ROMANCE. She is the Queen and he is a loyal knight. He controls the army. She controls the dragons. After they win, she leaves him to rebuild the Nights Watch and the Wall. The only thing that would still be going would be the war in the south. And, in my mind, it's just ravaging the lower half of the country. Jaime won't really play a part till the end, when he takes it upon himself to stop his sister before it's too late. As he's sneaking into the Red Keep with Sandor (CLEGANEBOWL), Daenerys is arriving at the city. Cersei nukes Kings Landing, and she and Jaime die together as the Red Keep slowly burns down. Dany will watch in terror as her "birthright" blows the fuck up. I am gonna say Dany's vision in S2 E10 of wreckage at KL will be due to the Others will come about tho I can't figure exactly where the Others are at this point. I am thinking things will get so dire that all antagonists will have to become protagonists and hopefully united, either that or die at the power of the Others.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 26, 2016 22:43:58 GMT
I think by the time that happens, most of the other storylines will be wrapped up. Euron will be dead. Sansa and Rickon will be in control of the North. Arya and Bran will have accepted their fates, whatever they may be. Dany and Jon will really be the main characters at that point. NO ROMANCE. She is the Queen and he is a loyal knight. He controls the army. She controls the dragons. After they win, she leaves him to rebuild the Nights Watch and the Wall. The only thing that would still be going would be the war in the south. And, in my mind, it's just ravaging the lower half of the country. Jaime won't really play a part till the end, when he takes it upon himself to stop his sister before it's too late. As he's sneaking into the Red Keep with Sandor (CLEGANEBOWL), Daenerys is arriving at the city. Cersei nukes Kings Landing, and she and Jaime die together as the Red Keep slowly burns down. Dany will watch in terror as her "birthright" blows the fuck up. I am gonna say Dany's vision in S2 E10 of wreckage at KL will be due to the Others will come about tho I can't figure exactly where the Others are at this point. I am thinking things will get so dire that all antagonists will have to become protagonists and hopefully united, either that or die at the power of the Others. I def feel that the burnt Red Keep will be because of Cersei. I don't see why the Others would bother burning down a castle. Unless they have a political agenda, which tbh I feel is unlikely. I think will be a very clear Mad King parallel. With Daenerys (Robert) outside the city, Cersei (Aerys) will welcome Jaime (Tywin) into the city, only for him to Betray her as Cersei (Aerys) burns the city. I think Jaime will bring Sandor to take out Ser Robert whose guarding Cersei.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Mar 27, 2016 1:07:22 GMT
The whole matter with the Others-Walkers-White-or-whatever will take more pages and episodes than this. Should become the whole focus for some while in WoW and Dream. I think by the time that happens, most of the other storylines will be wrapped up. Euron will be dead. Sansa and Rickon will be in control of the North. Arya and Bran will have accepted their fates, whatever they may be. Dany and Jon will really be the main characters at that point. NO ROMANCE. She is the Queen and he is a loyal knight. He controls the army. She controls the dragons. After they win, she leaves him to rebuild the Nights Watch and the Wall. Not a fan of Jonerys, right?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 1:18:58 GMT
Jonerys is going to happen people. Just look at how good look together:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 11:57:26 GMT
NK sends Bran to tell the humans that the pact is broken. Didn't think about this A++ Roosey
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Post by boojam on Mar 27, 2016 14:08:08 GMT
By the by are we speaking book wise or show wise here? Since those may turn out to be two disjoint things.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 14:56:34 GMT
In S8 Jon becomes the negotiator between NK and Dany. A huge battle ensues, Dany and her dragons are killed, NK too. The WW still want men out of their lands to honor 8000 years old pact of some kind. Jon decides to become a new Night's King and builds a new Wall. Bran becomes Lord of Winterfell. I have no idea who gets the Iron Throne. Survivors of the entire series: Jon, Sansa, Bran, Tyrion, Davos, Sam, and others That's a very interesting take on the ending to the whole saga ... I never considered Jon a contender for the throne but at the same time, what does a nearly immortal 'walking dead' man do once the Others have been defeated or bargained with? History repeating itself for a new Night's King would be one interesting twist, if the old one is destroyed by Jon himself in the battle. Jon would be one of the few men to actually keep his word and ensure that men stayed out of the realm of the Others where before they broke that promise.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 27, 2016 21:26:57 GMT
By the by are we speaking book wise or show wise here? Since those may turn out to be two disjoint things. For our purposes, I think we can just keep it show canon lol. Because the show is quickly developing its own identity.
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 27, 2016 21:41:29 GMT
Jonerys is going to happen people. Just look at how good look together:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 21:42:36 GMT
Jonerys is going to happen people. Just look at how good look together: @nictarion , I think you gave Nezzer a heart attack.
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