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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 9:11:03 GMT
We still don't know if in the show Sam and Gilly go to Oldtown briefly before Horn Hill and then returns to the citadel afterward or if Sam doesn't go to Oldtown until after he leaves Gilly with his family. yeh i was just thinking, because we haven't heard any casting about a ship captain and there's the promo photo of sam and gilly on the ship which i think will be in episode 1 or 2.We figured out that the promo photo of Sam and Gilly is from 603. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 9:11:14 GMT
When did Snowbowl start gaining momentum? I and Nezzer made the thread in July, I think. We and several others hyped it, but some (Konrad  ) thought they'd be dealt with by 6x05. The real confirmation by WotW happened in late September. Generally I thought then that s6 would cover a lot more ground then we now know it will. Which I don't mind now that we know it will be eight seasons instead of seven and that we'll get the biggest battle the show's done yet to resolve the Bolton arc. But I was right at least in that you're namesake will be dead by the midseason. So we're even.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 9:14:48 GMT
yeh i was just thinking, because we haven't heard any casting about a ship captain and there's the promo photo of sam and gilly on the ship which i think will be in episode 1 or 2.We figured out that the promo photo of Sam and Gilly is from 603. oh well, i forgot about that! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 9:17:43 GMT
We figured out that the promo photo of Sam and Gilly is from 603. oh well, i forgot about that! It's all good.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 9:18:17 GMT
I and Nezzer made the thread in July, I think. We and several others hyped it, but some (Konrad ) thought they'd be dealt with by 6x05. The real confirmation by WotW happened in late September. Generally I thought then that s6 would cover a lot more ground then we now know it will. Which I don't mind now that we know it will be eight seasons instead of seven and that we'll get the biggest battle the show's done yet to resolve the Bolton arc. But I was right at least in that you're namesake will be dead by the midseason. So we're even. How do you see Roose's death happening btw? Ramsay poisoning him, like he probably did to Domeric, or flat out stabbing him with a dagger? Someone proposed few pages ago that Ramsay could give Roose to the northern lords e.g. "help me against these wildling savages and I shall give you my father who killed Robb Stark" |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 9:21:06 GMT
Generally I thought then that s6 would cover a lot more ground then we now know it will. Which I don't mind now that we know it will be eight seasons instead of seven and that we'll get the biggest battle the show's done yet to resolve the Bolton arc. But I was right at least in that you're namesake will be dead by the midseason. So we're even. How do you see Roose's death happening btw? Ramsay poisoning him, like he probably did to Domeric, or flat out stabbing him with a dagger? Someone proposed few pages ago that Ramsay could give Roose to the northern lords e.g. "help me against these wildling savages and I shall give you my father who killed Robb Stark" I think he'll kill him with a dagger and it will visually parallel Roose's killing of Robb. Except somehow I think in his last moments Roose will be proud of his son.  |
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Post by boojam on Apr 3, 2016 9:28:57 GMT
I and Nezzer made the thread in July, I think. We and several others hyped it, but some (Konrad ) thought they'd be dealt with by 6x05. The real confirmation by WotW happened in late September. Generally I thought then that s6 would cover a lot more ground then we now know it will. Which I don't mind now that we know it will be eight seasons instead of seven and that we'll get the biggest battle the show's done yet to resolve the Bolton arc. But I was right at least in that you're namesake will be dead by the midseason. So we're even. Since I don't think LF will come back to Winterfell and all others there are dead or gone who does Ramsay talk too? Don't think we heard of a casting call for a Bolton 'general' or any other character, I guess? Last year there was a flash-part for a 'general' for Stannis , tho that guy hardly got a word in. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 9:30:38 GMT
Generally I thought then that s6 would cover a lot more ground then we now know it will. Which I don't mind now that we know it will be eight seasons instead of seven and that we'll get the biggest battle the show's done yet to resolve the Bolton arc. But I was right at least in that you're namesake will be dead by the midseason. So we're even. Since I don't think LF will come back to Winterfell and all others there are dead or gone who does Ramsay talk too? Don't think we heard of a casting call for a Bolton 'general' or any other character, I guess? Last year there was a flash-part for a 'general' for Stannis , tho that guy hardly got a word in. There is a Bolton general part for him to talk to after he kills his daddy, as well as Smalljon Umber and Harald Karstark. They'll occupy his time in the leadup to the Snowbowl, I imagine. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 9:46:51 GMT
Since I don't think LF will come back to Winterfell and all others there are dead or gone who does Ramsay talk too? Don't think we heard of a casting call for a Bolton 'general' or any other character, I guess? Last year there was a flash-part for a 'general' for Stannis , tho that guy hardly got a word in. There is a Bolton general part for him to talk to after he kills his daddy, as well as Smalljon Umber and Harald Karstark. They'll occupy his time in the leadup to the Snowbowl, I imagine. I see Ramsay having only one episode between Roose's death and Snowbowl. Did we find out whether Ramsay survived the Snowbowl to be executed in the finale, or does the execution happen in 6x09? Roose probably appears in 3 or 4 episodes, with Ramsay appearing in two or three more than his dad. Also I realized that maybe Harald Karstark survives the Snowbowl. He appears in 3 episodes after all. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 9:50:17 GMT
There is a Bolton general part for him to talk to after he kills his daddy, as well as Smalljon Umber and Harald Karstark. They'll occupy his time in the leadup to the Snowbowl, I imagine. I see Ramsay having only one episode between Roose's death and Snowbowl. Did we find out whether Ramsay survived the Snowbowl to be executed in the finale, or does the execution happen in 6x09? Roose probably appears in 3 or 4 episodes, with Ramsay appearing in two or three more than his dad. Also I realized that maybe Harald Karstark survives the Snowbowl. He appears in 3 episodes after all. I think it's more likely that we just meet Harald before we do Smalljon. Also I'm pretty sure Ramsay will die in 609 rather than 610. The episode will need to end with a moment of catharsis I think rather than an anti-climax and Rams dying would certainly be that. I hope it doesn't save his death until the finale anyways because the finale will already have enough water to carry wrapping up so many storylines and I'd rather Rams' death be a moment of huge catharsis and impact rather than something lost amongst a lot of other cliffhangers and payoff moments. |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 3, 2016 10:35:42 GMT
Generally I thought then that s6 would cover a lot more ground then we now know it will. Which I don't mind now that we know it will be eight seasons instead of seven and that we'll get the biggest battle the show's done yet to resolve the Bolton arc. But I was right at least in that you're namesake will be dead by the midseason. So we're even. How do you see Roose's death happening btw? Ramsay poisoning him, like he probably did to Domeric, or flat out stabbing him with a dagger? Someone proposed few pages ago that Ramsay could give Roose to the northern lords e.g. "help me against these wildling savages and I shall give you my father who killed Robb Stark" I think Ramsay will stab Roose in a fit of rage, possibly after the "rue the day" line, and will immediately regret it. ShowRams actually loves or at least greatly respects his dad, one of the reasons why I don't think Roose is one of the guys on the burning crosses. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 12:58:21 GMT
When you see an unsullied speculate that the only reason Thoros of Myr/the BwB was included was so that Mel's powers of resurrection wouldn't come out of nowhere  |
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Post by kingeomer on Apr 3, 2016 13:01:43 GMT
How do you see Roose's death happening btw? Ramsay poisoning him, like he probably did to Domeric, or flat out stabbing him with a dagger? Someone proposed few pages ago that Ramsay could give Roose to the northern lords e.g. "help me against these wildling savages and I shall give you my father who killed Robb Stark" I think Ramsay will stab Roose in a fit of rage, possibly after the "rue the day" line, and will immediately regret it. ShowRams actually loves or at least greatly respects his dad, one of the reasons why I don't think Roose is one of the guys on the burning crosses. I don't see Roose being proud of his son in his last moments and I can see it going down like that with a stab to the heart that does parallel what Roose did to Robb. I always got the feeling in A Dance With Dragons that Roose was starting to regret giving Ramsey the leeway he had. It seems fitting that Ramsey would be Roose's undoing. I think Roose dies with regret. |
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Post by Admin on Apr 3, 2016 13:27:47 GMT
When you see an unsullied speculate that the only reason Thoros of Myr/the BwB was included was so that Mel's powers of resurrection wouldn't come out of nowhere  |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Apr 3, 2016 15:08:42 GMT
Generally I thought then that s6 would cover a lot more ground then we now know it will. Which I don't mind now that we know it will be eight seasons instead of seven and that we'll get the biggest battle the show's done yet to resolve the Bolton arc. But I was right at least in that you're namesake will be dead by the midseason. So we're even. How do you see Roose's death happening btw? Ramsay poisoning him, like he probably did to Domeric, or flat out stabbing him with a dagger? Someone proposed few pages ago that Ramsay could give Roose to the northern lords e.g. "help me against these wildling savages and I shall give you my father who killed Robb Stark" I can't see Ramsay using poison in the show. He really enjoys seeing blood and pain. And... Poor Fat Walda, she was too kind for Westeros.  I'm interested in the political implications of Roose's murder. How will Ramsay handle the northern Lords after his deed? It's very likely, as you said, that he will play the "wildling threat card" as a way to gain their support for the Snowbowl. |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Apr 3, 2016 15:09:23 GMT
When you see an unsullied speculate that the only reason Thoros of Myr/the BwB was included was so that Mel's powers of resurrection wouldn't come out of nowhere We don't speak... But we remember. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 15:52:08 GMT
How do you see Roose's death happening btw? Ramsay poisoning him, like he probably did to Domeric, or flat out stabbing him with a dagger? Someone proposed few pages ago that Ramsay could give Roose to the northern lords e.g. "help me against these wildling savages and I shall give you my father who killed Robb Stark" I think Ramsay will stab Roose in a fit of rage, possibly after the "rue the day" line, and will immediately regret it. ShowRams actually loves or at least greatly respects his dad, one of the reasons why I don't think Roose is one of the guys on the burning crosses. This is how I envision it happening as well Nezzer, good call. They've played up the tension between the two just enough to make people question and have doubts, but it wasn't over the top so we're left guessing if Ramsay is really unhinged enough to do it. In the books we know a lot more about just how much of a psychopath he is (Domeric and Lady Hornwood) but the show left those out and focused instead on his evil side 'hobbies' and abuse of Sansa. It's still plenty evidence he'll do anything to secure his place as the heir. I've always seen Roose and Ramsay as a kind of Game of Thrones version of Star Wars (Old Republic era) Sith Master and Apprentice. The "Rule of Two" thing where the Apprentice often killed the Master to take the place of power in the dark force. As intelligent as Roose is, I'm sure he's fully aware of this possibility. I really like how clever he is in the show (especially with Littlefinger) and would hope he realizes the threat Ramsay poses to him and his unborn heir. We'll see how that goes! |
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Post by boojam on Apr 3, 2016 16:25:54 GMT
I see Ramsay having only one episode between Roose's death and Snowbowl. Did we find out whether Ramsay survived the Snowbowl to be executed in the finale, or does the execution happen in 6x09? Roose probably appears in 3 or 4 episodes, with Ramsay appearing in two or three more than his dad. Also I realized that maybe Harald Karstark survives the Snowbowl. He appears in 3 episodes after all. I think it's more likely that we just meet Harald before we do Smalljon. Also I'm pretty sure Ramsay will die in 609 rather than 610. The episode will need to end with a moment of catharsis I think rather than an anti-climax and Rams dying would certainly be that. I hope it doesn't save his death until the finale anyways because the finale will already have enough water to carry wrapping up so many storylines and I'd rather Rams' death be a moment of huge catharsis and impact rather than something lost amongst a lot of other cliffhangers and payoff moments. Since E9 has been had the gosh-wow moment for the run... seems snowbowl must end in something like that. It is intriguing to think the E10 will have some kind of Big Surprise that might even trump E9. I am thinking something WalkersOthersKinghyKing thingy. |
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Post by Belle on Apr 3, 2016 18:30:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 18:39:25 GMT
me waiting for the episode titles and synopses to release: I wonder if they're holding back on episode titles because of potential spoilers.. |
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) thought they'd be dealt with by 6x05. The real confirmation by WotW happened in late September.
I'm interested in the political implications of Roose's murder. How will Ramsay handle the northern Lords after his deed? It's very likely, as you said, that he will play the "wildling threat card" as a way to gain their support for the Snowbowl. 
