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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 19:32:28 GMT
Yeah it's odd since we're about to be 3 weeks away from the premiere. Omg what if season 6 is delayed
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 19:35:03 GMT
Yeah it's odd since we're about to be 3 weeks away from the premiere. Omg what if season 6 is delayed
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 20:22:41 GMT
Sorry, what? You do know that the Others and White Walkers are the same thing, right? The show doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 20:38:46 GMT
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Post by boojam on Apr 1, 2016 20:45:06 GMT
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Post by boojam on Apr 1, 2016 20:51:58 GMT
Religious organization of assassins sounds evil to me. Also there are quite convincing theories about them having something to do with the Doom of Valyria. yeh, there's two sides to that. The Valyrians weren't very nice people Just like i think there will be two sides to the BR/WW thing. GRRM has never intended for this to be a 'black and white' story imo The show kept the books Dany as abolitionist. George has never elaborated wither the Targaryens were anti slavery or not. I don't know what George is going to make of it , the FM are fundamental, well Braavos is, antislavery. Yet here is one of Valyrian blood who is on their side, what will they make of that?
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 1, 2016 21:21:58 GMT
Sorry, what? You do know that the Others and White Walkers are the same thing, right? The show doesn't. The show never once referred to them as "Others", though. It's the same thing, White Walkers and Wights, but I think they only mentioned the word "wight" once, back in season 2, when Jon told Qhorin he killed one.
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Post by day dreamer on Apr 1, 2016 21:28:13 GMT
I lol'd way too hard at the Hound Gravedigger monster truck.
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Post by freeparking on Apr 1, 2016 21:30:16 GMT
There is no way LF dies this season. I think the way things end this year will set up the climax between LF's and Varys's rivalry next season. LF with the North, Vale, Riverlands vs Varys with the Reach, Dorne, Dany. Somthing like that. There is, broadly, a sort of "apprenticeship" under-story going on that is quite interesting to speculate on. Varys seems to be backing Tyrion in the show, although a lot of people think he may be connected to the FM and thus Arya's training. In the books he definitely had a hand in the training of Aegon...but we will see if that amounts to anything. LF of course is sort of exploitraining Sansa with plans of world domination through her somehow. Then there is the clearer parallel of Bran's greenseer training and Arya's FM training, via Bloodraven and the Kindly Man whoever he may be/have been. So, IMO it might be more complex than just an LF/Varys showdown, depending on what links if any exist between these various actors. LF of course has some hinted links to Braavos. Not just his family background but also his boat, and his ease in getting loans from the IB. If Varys is indeed connected to the FM then the power showdown that is coming up in Braavos after the death of the sealord may turn out to be not so peripheral to the central story. While the books have time and space to have a hundred different factions with a hundred different motivations, I don't think the show has that luxury. I expect groups like the Faceless Men and the Maesters to have truncated stories and for them to be quickly cut from the rest of the story or join Team Jon or Team Dany. LF and Varys and their seemingly opposing desires have been around since the first season, while Bloodraven and the Iron Bank have not. Whatever may happen in the books, I suspect that the LF and Varys rivalry will be a major focus for the show and how their plotting for their respective teams is actually damaging to a unified front against the White Walkers. The other factions will be nullified, destroyed, or absorbed into which ever team they join
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 21:36:15 GMT
Yeah it's odd since we're about to be 3 weeks away from the premiere. Everything this year is much different than seasons past. Like the no screeners and only one premiere thing, I have to think delaying everything including episode titles is part of their paranoia over last season's huge leaks. That really upset them a lot and rightly so. Most of us fans probably took it for granted and everyone jumped on the opportunity because we're greedy bastards but it actually did a lot of damage to HBO's confidence this season and they have much more to be tight handed about with all the cliff hangers too. I'm actually ashamed of myself for not really thinking of how terrible those massive 4 episode leaks were before.
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Post by Belle on Apr 1, 2016 23:57:44 GMT
I don't expect episode titles till the week the first episode airs at this point
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Apr 2, 2016 0:38:59 GMT
I don't expect episode titles till the week the first episode airs at this point They probably won't release the first episode either. Or the second one. Or any of them. Too spoilery
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 0:41:33 GMT
yeh, there's two sides to that. The Valyrians weren't very nice people Just like i think there will be two sides to the BR/WW thing. GRRM has never intended for this to be a 'black and white' story imo The show kept the books Dany as abolitionist. George has never elaborated wither the Targaryens were anti slavery or not. I don't know what George is going to make of it , the FM are fundamental, well Braavos is, antislavery. Yet here is one of Valyrian blood who is on their side, what will they make of that? I'm not quite sure what the motives are of the FM, it would make sense for them to line up with Dany's. They might want to help her take Volantis as its still a massive slave city and IIRC Braavos has gone to war with them before.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Apr 2, 2016 1:49:55 GMT
Yeah it's odd since we're about to be 3 weeks away from the premiere. Everything this year is much different than seasons past. Like the no screeners and only one premiere thing, I have to think delaying everything including episode titles is part of their paranoia over last season's huge leaks. That really upset them a lot and rightly so. Most of us fans probably took it for granted and everyone jumped on the opportunity because we're greedy bastards but it actually did a lot of damage to HBO's confidence this season and they have much more to be tight handed about with all the cliff hangers too. I'm actually ashamed of myself for not really thinking of how terrible those massive 4 episode leaks were before. I didn't donwload the leaked episodes, but I couldn't resist reading the spoilers and summaries. Frankly, I'm glad with their current paranoia and tight security. We have enough spoilers already, and a wonderful trailer. I don't need more at this point. The premiere is just 3 weeks ahead. Our long night is almost over and a dream of spring is near for us. I can wait.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 3:08:44 GMT
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 2, 2016 3:18:21 GMT
Children, the block function can be a beautiful thing, I've found.
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Post by freeparking on Apr 2, 2016 3:38:57 GMT
I thought she was going to ask if he had to choose between Ramsay and Walda's kid. Would have been a better question, though he wouldn't have been able to answer it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 3:52:34 GMT
I thought she was going to ask if he had to choose between Ramsay and Walda's kid. Would have been a better question, though he wouldn't have been able to answer it. I wonder if they'll bring up Domeric in the show.
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Post by freeparking on Apr 2, 2016 4:13:50 GMT
I thought she was going to ask if he had to choose between Ramsay and Walda's kid. Would have been a better question, though he wouldn't have been able to answer it. I wonder if they'll bring up Domeric in the show. I don't really think Domeric is needed, to be honest. Walda being pregnant coupled with the increased tension between Roose and Ramsay since Sansa and Theon escaped will probably be enough to make the audience think the Boltons could turn on each other, which I think is the reason why the Domeric story existed in the books. Continuing on that strain of thought, I felt in the books that Roose might try to throw Ramsay under the bus in the near future. Recall Wyman saying that Roose was cold but that they could at least deal with him compared to his bastard. Perhaps Roose in the show might try something similar. "He burned down Winterfell, abused Sansa, and ruined Theon. He is an evil bastard, and I can't control him. Ally with me against these Wildlings, and I will give you Ramsay." Something along those lines. What if Ramsay finds this out and preemptively does that to Roose instead? "He killed your king at a wedding. Everything I did was just following my father's orders. Ally with me against these Wildlings, and we can get rid of my father and make the North great again!"
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 2, 2016 4:22:17 GMT
Yeah, I didn't get the feeling in s5 that Domeric existed in the showverse.
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