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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 20:51:49 GMT
Hey guys... you know that photo of Davos standing alone in the snow in front of some burnt wood? Everyone speculates he's gone to visit the place where Melisandre burned Shireen. But what if that's not it? (I mean really, does that look anywhere SOUTH of the Wall to you?)What if that's Davos standing in front of a burnt funeral pyre and the body burnt is gone? What if that was Jon Snow? What if ... Means something totally different?! Dun Dun DUN!
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Post by Basil on Mar 31, 2016 20:56:31 GMT
I'd like that more than Mel bringing him back, tbh.
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Post by mattpeto on Mar 31, 2016 20:57:32 GMT
It's going to be Mel.
But I like both of your enthusiasm.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 20:57:32 GMT
Cool artwork but Jon really should still be wielding Longclaw since it trumps Ice sword anyways!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 20:59:13 GMT
It's going to be Mel. But I like both of your enthusiasm. Oh I'm not really being that serious. I was just going off on a wild tangent because of that (likely bad) translation where Carice says people are going to be disappointed in waiting for Melisandre to resurrect Jon. That seems like a much more outright lie than Kit saying "he's dead" over and over, which could be argued as plausible deniability.
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Post by Basil on Mar 31, 2016 21:00:02 GMT
Cool artwork but Jon really should still be wielding Longclaw since it trumps Ice sword anyways! I think this is Longclaw, covered in ice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 21:01:10 GMT
Cool artwork but Jon really should still be wielding Longclaw since it trumps Ice sword anyways! I think this is Longclaw, covered in ice. Ohhhh... I didn't look closely enough to see the wolf's head on the pommel!
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Post by Basil on Mar 31, 2016 21:04:29 GMT
I think that it's probably going to be Mel, but I'm not completely ruling out that she's just a red herring. As Envie said, it just seems too convenient and obvious, they had her show up at Castle Black literally two minutes before Jon was stabbed to death. Even my boyfriend figured out that she would bring him back, and he is the most casual GoT viewer ever.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 21:10:31 GMT
@envie i do actually think Davos looks north of the wall, if so, could his mission be this season to find Bran? Jon does know about him.
I doubt it's shireen's funeral pyre anyway, the whole thing would have been turned to dust, blown away and snowed on by the time Davos gets there.
Looks like he might be building a pyre for Jon, and after talking to Tormund he might go North of the wall to burn him next to a weirwood tree
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 21:12:25 GMT
I think that it's probably going to be Mel, but I'm not completely ruling out that she's just a red herring. As Envie said, it just seems too convenient and obvious, they had her show up at Castle Black literally two minutes before Jon was stabbed to death. Even my boyfriend figured out that she would bring him back, and he is the most casual GoT viewer ever. Yeah even Jasmine knew if you remember.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 21:20:38 GMT
@envie i do actually think Davos looks north of the wall, if so, could his mission be this season to find Bran? Jon does know about him. I doubt it's shireen's funeral pyre anyway, the whole thing would have been turned to dust, blown away and snowed on by the time Davos gets there. Looks like he might be building a pyre for Jon, and after talking to Tormund he might go North of the wall to burn him next to a weirwood tree It's really an odd photo that should be a massive spoiler if our speculations are correct. There's some trees in the far distance, but it mostly looks rocky and barren and very very snowy and desolate. Much more north of the wall than south of the wall type imagery in that picture of Davos. It's been driving me nuts, what is he looking at?! Does he go north of the wall to find Bran and ends up finding much more? Oh! And IF he gets sent on a new mission north of the wall ... I think it will be Sansa who sends him. Theon just told her Bran and Rickon are alive ... that's very fresh in everyone's memory from the end of last season. In fact it was her entire change of heart for Theon. It's important. She'll send Brienne south to look for Arya and Davos north to look for Bran and Rickon! SANSA becomes CATELYN 2.0 (but not Stoneheart).
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Post by lordcarson on Mar 31, 2016 21:29:34 GMT
That's place looks really similar to the exact place that Shiteen was burned but I mean I'm on my phone eating too much baked ziti so I'm not able to observe that picture too goodly
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 21:30:09 GMT
@envie i do actually think Davos looks north of the wall, if so, could his mission be this season to find Bran? Jon does know about him. I doubt it's shireen's funeral pyre anyway, the whole thing would have been turned to dust, blown away and snowed on by the time Davos gets there. Looks like he might be building a pyre for Jon, and after talking to Tormund he might go North of the wall to burn him next to a weirwood tree It's really an odd photo that should be a massive spoiler if our speculations are correct. There's some trees in the far distance, but it mostly looks rocky and barren and very very snowy and desolate. Much more north of the wall than south of the wall type imagery in that picture of Davos. It's been driving me nuts, what is he looking at?! Does he go north of the wall to find Bran and ends up finding much more? Oh! And IF he gets sent on a new mission north of the wall ... I think it will be Sansa who sends him. Theon just told her Bran and Rickon are alive ... that's very fresh in everyone's memory from the end of last season. In fact it was her entire change of heart for Theon. It's important. She'll send Brienne south to look for Arya and Davos north to look for Bran and Rickon! SANSA becomes CATELYN 2.0 (but not Stoneheart). it is an odd image, because he seems alone as well, with no horse. (unless horse is out of the picture). It might just be the angle though, photography can be tricky. But Jon knows Bran is alive and north of the wall, and Sansa knows that rickon and bran were not killed by theon. I can see finding rickon being pointless for Davos on the show because according to speculation, he somehow shows up around snowbowl. [\spoiler]
But i can't remember if Davos was confirmed to be at snowbowl. If not i can see how this would be a perfect way to avoid conflict with Mel, if they are separated. Davos goes north and Mel follows Jon with Sansa.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 21:36:00 GMT
@envie i do actually think Davos looks north of the wall, if so, could his mission be this season to find Bran? Jon does know about him. I doubt it's shireen's funeral pyre anyway, the whole thing would have been turned to dust, blown away and snowed on by the time Davos gets there. Looks like he might be building a pyre for Jon, and after talking to Tormund he might go North of the wall to burn him next to a weirwood tree It's really an odd photo that should be a massive spoiler if our speculations are correct. There's some trees in the far distance, but it mostly looks rocky and barren and very very snowy and desolate. Much more north of the wall than south of the wall type imagery in that picture of Davos. It's been driving me nuts, what is he looking at?! Does he go north of the wall to find Bran and ends up finding much more? Oh! And IF he gets sent on a new mission north of the wall ... I think it will be Sansa who sends him. Theon just told her Bran and Rickon are alive ... that's very fresh in everyone's memory from the end of last season. In fact it was her entire change of heart for Theon. It's important. She'll send Brienne south to look for Arya and Davos north to look for Bran and Rickon! SANSA becomes CATELYN 2.0 (but not Stoneheart). That would be interesting and I do like the idea of Davos building a pyre for Jon north of the wall, but I think once Sansa reaches Castle Black that Davos will eventually leave with her, Jon, and Mel to go south into The Gift where the wildlings have settled. From there, I think Jon and Sansa will call the banners and Davos will be sent on a mission to find Rickon. Sansa could certainly go with Davos and eventually meet with the Northern Lords at White Harbor or Castle Cerwyn. White Harbor is near Moat Cailin so if that does end up being the location, Sansa could ride for Moat Cailin to let LF and the KotV through once he comes back North.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 21:39:26 GMT
It's really an odd photo that should be a massive spoiler if our speculations are correct. There's some trees in the far distance, but it mostly looks rocky and barren and very very snowy and desolate. Much more north of the wall than south of the wall type imagery in that picture of Davos. It's been driving me nuts, what is he looking at?! Does he go north of the wall to find Bran and ends up finding much more? Oh! And IF he gets sent on a new mission north of the wall ... I think it will be Sansa who sends him. Theon just told her Bran and Rickon are alive ... that's very fresh in everyone's memory from the end of last season. In fact it was her entire change of heart for Theon. It's important. She'll send Brienne south to look for Arya and Davos north to look for Bran and Rickon! SANSA becomes CATELYN 2.0 (but not Stoneheart). it is an odd image, because he seems alone as well, with no horse. (unless horse is out of the picture). It might just be the angle though, photography can be tricky. But Jon knows Bran is alive and north of the wall, and Sansa knows that rickon and bran were not killed by theon. I can see finding rickon being pointless for Davos on the show because according to speculation, he somehow shows up around snowbowl. [\spoiler]
But i can't remember if Davos was confirmed to be at snowbowl. If not i can see how this would be a perfect way to avoid conflict with Mel, if they are separated. Davos goes north and Mel follows Jon with Sansa. Davos is confirmed to be at Snowbowl. Mel isn't though, so I'm thinking she stays behind in The Gift.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Mar 31, 2016 21:41:17 GMT
Hey guys... you know that photo of Davos standing alone in the snow in front of some burnt wood? Everyone speculates he's gone to visit the place where Melisandre burned Shireen. But what if that's not it? (I mean really, does that look anywhere SOUTH of the Wall to you?)What if that's Davos standing in front of a burnt funeral pyre and the body burnt is gone? What if that was Jon Snow? What if ... Means something totally different?! Dun Dun DUN! The thought has crossed my mind. It's an interesting concept. Melisandre fails, everyone in the world goes nuts, D&D get to troll the audience, Jon's body is burned north of the Wall.... And then later Davos goes back to find an empty pyre. It would be very Jesus-like. Moreover, it would mean the exact nature of the resurrection is left up to the imagination. Avoids the awkwardness of Ghost warging or Mel kissing or other theories floating around. It is also worth remembering that in the original outline, GRRM had Catelyn being resurrected by white walkers north of the Wall. So this is probably the same magic that R'hllor uses anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 21:42:04 GMT
It's really an odd photo that should be a massive spoiler if our speculations are correct. There's some trees in the far distance, but it mostly looks rocky and barren and very very snowy and desolate. Much more north of the wall than south of the wall type imagery in that picture of Davos. It's been driving me nuts, what is he looking at?! Does he go north of the wall to find Bran and ends up finding much more? Oh! And IF he gets sent on a new mission north of the wall ... I think it will be Sansa who sends him. Theon just told her Bran and Rickon are alive ... that's very fresh in everyone's memory from the end of last season. In fact it was her entire change of heart for Theon. It's important. She'll send Brienne south to look for Arya and Davos north to look for Bran and Rickon! SANSA becomes CATELYN 2.0 (but not Stoneheart). That would be interesting and I do like the idea of Davos building a pyre for Jon north of the wall, but I think once Sansa reaches Castle Black that Davos will eventually leave with her, Jon, and Mel to go south into The Gift where the wildlings have settled. From there, I think Jon and Sansa will call the banners and Davos will be sent on a mission to find Rickon. Sansa could certainly go with Davos and eventually meet with the Northern Lords at White Harbor or Castle Cerwyn. White Harbor is near Moat Cailin so if that does end up being the location, Sansa could ride for Moat Cailin to let LF and the KotV through once he comes back North. That's all very plausible and a much more detailed travel itinerary than I was envisioning! I am envisioning Sansa coming into her own power once she realizes she's safe from the "Monster" and people are willing to back her and take back Winterfell. I think this will be Sansa's evolution come full circle and will be quite empowering like Sophie has hinted at in interviews. Her 'ordering' people to do her bidding in bringing her family back together and justice for the wrongs done to the Starks would be a nice comeback for all the fans who have suffered along with them. Much fist pumping will happen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 21:44:35 GMT
it is an odd image, because he seems alone as well, with no horse. (unless horse is out of the picture). It might just be the angle though, photography can be tricky. But Jon knows Bran is alive and north of the wall, and Sansa knows that rickon and bran were not killed by theon. I can see finding rickon being pointless for Davos on the show because according to speculation, he somehow shows up around snowbowl. [\spoiler]
But i can't remember if Davos was confirmed to be at snowbowl. If not i can see how this would be a perfect way to avoid conflict with Mel, if they are separated. Davos goes north and Mel follows Jon with Sansa. Davos is confirmed to be at Snowbowl. Mel isn't though, so I'm thinking she stays behind in The Gift. nah i think its just that she's not in the battle. I don't think she'll leave jon's side (unless he sends her away)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 21:44:38 GMT
The thought has crossed my mind. It's an interesting concept. Melisandre fails, everyone in the world goes nuts, D&D get to troll the audience, Jon's budy is burned north of the Wall.... And then later Davos goes back to find an empty pyre. It would be very Jesus-like. Moreover, it would mean the exact nature of the resurrection is left up to the imagination. Avoids the awkwardness of Ghost warging or Mel kissing or other theories floating around. It is also worth remembering that in the original outline, GRRM had Catelyn being resurrected by white walkers north of the Wall. So this is probably the same magic that R'hllor uses anyway. Yes it does have a certain epic kind of Jesus-like theme to it, doesn't it? I like it even better as a mystery the way you theorized it. Don't even put it on screen where he goes or how... just that he shows up later and most people have no idea he was even killed. All the witnesses at the wall be like WAT DA FUK?!
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Post by lordcarson on Mar 31, 2016 21:52:32 GMT
iphone pls fix my mistakes next time so i do not say SHITEEN
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