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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 11:20:53 GMT
How many Walkers do you guys think Brienne can take down? I think the Walkers are fucked. She's going to kill the Night's King offscreen!
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Post by Admin on Jun 18, 2015 11:23:53 GMT
How many Walkers do you guys think Brienne can take down? I think the Walkers are fucked. She's going to kill the Night's King offscreen! And then she raises her arms and all the other Walkers die.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 11:26:55 GMT
She's going to kill the Night's King offscreen! And then she raises her arms and all the other Walkers die. Then she crowns herself Queen and marries Jaime!
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Post by boojam on Jun 18, 2015 13:53:36 GMT
Could the BWB factor in here and take them to say, the Blackfish?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 18:47:56 GMT
Could the BWB factor in here and take them to say, the Blackfish? Blackfish is far away. Sansa and Brienne probably don't even know him at all. What's this talk of Tormund? How can they "smoothly" introduce the wildlings to the Northern story line? Jon leading them?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 18:51:19 GMT
Could the BWB factor in here and take them to say, the Blackfish? Blackfish is far away. Sansa and Brienne probably don't even know him at all. What's this talk of Tormund? How can they "smoothly" introduce the wildlings to the Northern story line? Jon leading them? No clue wtf Tormund and the Wildlings are going to do but they have to have some part to play in the whole thing otherwise why play up the rescue at Hardhome so much? Maybe Tormund becomes a pseudo Northern Mountain Clan leader to unite some of them? (Remember the Wulls, Liddles, Knotts etc?)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 18:55:05 GMT
Blackfish is far away. Sansa and Brienne probably don't even know him at all. What's this talk of Tormund? How can they "smoothly" introduce the wildlings to the Northern story line? Jon leading them? No clue wtf Tormund and the Wildlings are going to do but they have to have some part to play in the whole thing otherwise why play up the rescue at Hardhome so much? Maybe Tormund becomes a pseudo Northern Mountain Clan leader to unite some of them? (Remember the Wulls, Liddles, Knotts etc?) That's a good guess. Jon could use them in retaking the North, but there's a problem. Northeners (especially Umbers) absolutely loathe wildlings..
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Post by Nezzer on Jun 18, 2015 18:57:15 GMT
No clue wtf Tormund and the Wildlings are going to do but they have to have some part to play in the whole thing otherwise why play up the rescue at Hardhome so much? Maybe Tormund becomes a pseudo Northern Mountain Clan leader to unite some of them? (Remember the Wulls, Liddles, Knotts etc?) That's a good guess. Jon could use them in retaking the North, but there's a problem. Northeners (especially Umbers) absolutely loathe wildlings.. Yeah, but I don't care. I'd love to see a clusterfuck with wildlings, Jon, Sansa, Mel, Davos, Theon, Rickon, Boltons, Freys, Littlefinger's KotV, the Northern Lords and even Brienne and Pod next season
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 18:59:28 GMT
That's a good guess. Jon could use them in retaking the North, but there's a problem. Northeners (especially Umbers) absolutely loathe wildlings.. Yeah, but I don't care. I'd love to see a clusterfuck with wildlings, Jon, Sansa, Mel, Davos, Theon, Rickon, Boltons, Freys, Littlefinger's KotV, the Northern Lords and even Brienne and Pod next season Careful, don't start building dream teams. I made that mistake before the 5th season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 19:01:23 GMT
No clue wtf Tormund and the Wildlings are going to do but they have to have some part to play in the whole thing otherwise why play up the rescue at Hardhome so much? Maybe Tormund becomes a pseudo Northern Mountain Clan leader to unite some of them? (Remember the Wulls, Liddles, Knotts etc?) That's a good guess. Jon could use them in retaking the North, but there's a problem. Northeners (especially Umbers) absolutely loathe wildlings.. Yeah I know, that's why I'm really clueless what they are going to do with them. Ages old grudge against the Wildlings from the Northern clans AND the Night's Watch isn't going to make it easy for Tormund and the surviving wildlings to settle in - but we learned a lot more about them through Jon's eyes and they are people just the same as those on the south side of the wall and he was right, if someone didn't save them, they'd just be more undead fodder for the White Walker's army. Not that he saved enough to really make any difference mind you and it got him killed anyways. I really still take exception to the whole reason they decided to stab Jon being the wildlings thing instead of his desertion. I know it's been hashed over a lot already but why did they drop the pink letter and all that anyways? It was all there.... bat shit crazy Ramsay ... Stannis (really) dying... Sansa (not fArya) ... why not just leave it like it was in the book?
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Post by Nezzer on Jun 18, 2015 19:01:58 GMT
Yeah, but I don't care. I'd love to see a clusterfuck with wildlings, Jon, Sansa, Mel, Davos, Theon, Rickon, Boltons, Freys, Littlefinger's KotV, the Northern Lords and even Brienne and Pod next season Careful, don't start building dream teams. I made that mistake before the 5th season. You're right. We can only start doing that after getting the first cast news. If we hear about some northern lords the hype train will start moving again.
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Post by boojam on Jun 18, 2015 19:06:20 GMT
Could the BWB factor in here and take them to say, the Blackfish? Blackfish is far away. Sansa and Brienne probably don't even know him at all. What's this talk of Tormund? How can they "smoothly" introduce the wildlings to the Northern story line? Jon leading them? Ser Brynden , the Blackfish is Sansa's great uncle , so she would know him. Anyway he has been introduced as a character, don't know what he will be doing in Winds, book wise we don't know where he went, but showing up in the story in the North would introduce another Bolton foe and Stark supporter, in fact he's family.
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Post by Nezzer on Jun 18, 2015 19:09:16 GMT
Blackfish is far away. Sansa and Brienne probably don't even know him at all. What's this talk of Tormund? How can they "smoothly" introduce the wildlings to the Northern story line? Jon leading them? Ser Brynden , the Blackfish is Sansa's great uncle , so she would know him. Anyway he has been introduced as a character, don't know what he will be doing in Winds, book wise we don't know where he went, but showing up in the story in the North would introduce another Bolton foe and Stark supporter, in fact he's family. I don't think they have ever met, though. Has Sansa ever met her mother's family? She hadn't met Lysa before Joffrey's death IIRC.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 19:12:06 GMT
That's a good guess. Jon could use them in retaking the North, but there's a problem. Northeners (especially Umbers) absolutely loathe wildlings.. Yeah I know, that's why I'm really clueless what they are going to do with them. Ages old grudge against the Wildlings from the Northern clans AND the Night's Watch isn't going to make it easy for Tormund and the surviving wildlings to settle in - but we learned a lot more about them through Jon's eyes and they are people just the same as those on the south side of the wall and he was right, if someone didn't save them, they'd just be more undead fodder for the White Walker's army. Not that he saved enough to really make any difference mind you and it got him killed anyways. I really still take exception to the whole reason they decided to stab Jon being the wildlings thing instead of his desertion. I know it's been hashed over a lot already but why did they drop the pink letter and all that anyways? It was all there.... bat shit crazy Ramsay ... Stannis (really) dying... Sansa (not fArya) ... why not just leave it like it was in the book? Jon could get stabbed again if he hangs out too long with the wildlings. This time the Greatjon will lead "For the North". How many did Jon save? Careful, don't start building dream teams. I made that mistake before the 5th season. You're right. We can only start doing that after getting the first cast news. If we hear about some northern lords the hype train will start moving again. That is true. I posted in numerous threads on this board that "I can't wait to see Sansa, Brienne, Pod, Stannis, Davos, Mel, Greatjon and Rickon together!" But what happened? Blackfish is far away. Sansa and Brienne probably don't even know him at all. What's this talk of Tormund? How can they "smoothly" introduce the wildlings to the Northern story line? Jon leading them? Ser Brynden , the Blackfish is Sansa's great uncle , so she would know him. Anyway he has been introduced as a character, don't know what he will be doing in Winds, book wise we don't know where he went, but showing up in the story in the North would introduce another Bolton foe and Stark supporter, in fact he's family. She might know her by name, but I don't think it would be wise to go to him. He has no army, he's alone (in Sansa's eyes). He might have the BWB or some loyalist force.
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Post by boojam on Jun 18, 2015 19:14:36 GMT
That's a good guess. Jon could use them in retaking the North, but there's a problem. Northeners (especially Umbers) absolutely loathe wildlings.. I really still take exception to the whole reason they decided to stab Jon being the wildlings thing instead of his desertion. I know it's been hashed over a lot already but why did they drop the pink letter and all that anyways? It was all there.... bat shit crazy Ramsay ... Stannis (really) dying... Sansa (not fArya) ... why not just leave it like it was in the book? In the books thought the whole Night's Watch thing was squirrely, I am guessing it's because there is no viable Warden of the North? Only entity I can think of who would supervise the Crows. As an organization they seem worthless if even a dozen or so are going to mutiny, even on matters that concern them. Jeor then this , doesn't seem they could defend a lemonade stand! Should have been disbanded ,even on the page!
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Post by boojam on Jun 18, 2015 19:18:16 GMT
Ser Brynden , the Blackfish is Sansa's great uncle , so she would know him. Anyway he has been introduced as a character, don't know what he will be doing in Winds, book wise we don't know where he went, but showing up in the story in the North would introduce another Bolton foe and Stark supporter, in fact he's family. I don't think they have ever met, though. Has Sansa ever met her mother's family? She hadn't met Lysa before Joffrey's death IIRC. She sure would know who he was by way of her mother. That she might have met her Tully relatives could a detail one would tacitly assume. Man you want George to detail everything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 19:18:16 GMT
Sansa and Jon will eventually join forces. Shame to see that Jon wasn't named Robb's heir on the show.. I'm glad he wasn't, because that gives me hope nothing will come of it in the books
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 19:22:17 GMT
I really still take exception to the whole reason they decided to stab Jon being the wildlings thing instead of his desertion. I know it's been hashed over a lot already but why did they drop the pink letter and all that anyways? It was all there.... bat shit crazy Ramsay ... Stannis (really) dying... Sansa (not fArya) ... why not just leave it like it was in the book? In the books thought the whole Night's Watch thing was squirrely, I am guessing it's because there is no viable Warden of the North? Only entity I can think of who would supervise the Crows. As an organization they seem worthless if even a dozen or so are going to mutiny, even on matters that concern them. Jeor then this , doesn't seem they could defend a lemonade stand! Should have been disbanded ,even on the page! I suppose so but it's still just the same story as it was in the book so why leave off the pink letter and threat that was Ramsay and the Boltons to Jon Snow? They've managed to make Ramsay the most despised (human) villain in season 5 so it would have made a lot of sense to show fans to see Jon lose his shit over threats from Ramsay. I'd say it would have made the impact of FTW much more bearable to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 19:23:34 GMT
And here I think I have finally chewed down to what upsets me about the finale and FTW. They used a lame 'trick' of Benjen to lure him outside while he was doing NOTHING wrong. Jon needed to attempt desertion again for it to hit home. They struck out on that I think. It left the audience in despair for the wrong reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 19:29:30 GMT
And here I think I have finally chewed down to what upsets me about the finale and FTW. They used a lame 'trick' of Benjen to lure him outside while he was doing NOTHING wrong. Jon needed to attempt desertion again for it to hit home. They struck out on that I think. It left the audience in despair for the wrong reasons. Yeah, there was a little bit of whitewashing going on there. A lot of storylines suffered from that in season 5 (Cersei, Dany).
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