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Post by day dreamer on Apr 7, 2015 16:10:25 GMT
Ha.. This story. I've set my expectations at "rock bottom" at this point. I don't know how it's going to make sense from a book fan, OR a TV fan's point of view. The whole thing just feels wrong.
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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2015 16:14:22 GMT
Ha.. This story. I've set my expectations at "rock bottom" at this point. I don't know how it's going to make sense from a book fan, OR a TV fan's point of view. The whole thing just feels wrong. Perhaps we should do what LF is doing...become super dumb ^^
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 16:30:06 GMT
This will PROBABLY be my favourite thread. I'm probably just going to put all of this in spoilers. Anyway, I think the prevailing theory (or is it confirmed?) is that Ramsay will be nice to Sansa. I'm guessing this will be motivated by the fact that they know she's a real Stark, and that if word got out that she was being abused, the Northern Lords would revolt. To me that seems the most logical reason.
I'm generally cautiously optimistic. On one hand, I'm super excited to finally have a Stark back in Winterfell, and the idea of said Stark (my favourite Stark!) taking revenge against the Boltons is pretty awesome. There's potential for a lot of really great moments and I think if this is handled well, it could be really great.
Although it's not without it's (obvious) problems. The biggest of which being the fact that she's not there as Alayne, but Sansa. Cersei will on that so fast.
Also, that interview (linked upthread I think) with Sophie strongly implied that the Darth Sansa look won't last. Hallelujah.
I'm also feeling that the Theon stuff is going to back-load the season if he doesn't even speak in the first 4 episodes, which makes think there's a possibility of Sansa appearing in every episode? Maybe skipping 1 (maybe ep. 9?).
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Post by day dreamer on Apr 7, 2015 16:48:39 GMT
Even if Ramsay IS nice to Sansa at first, we'll still have to probably deal with the pointless Myranda character being awful to her. I've always been really annoyed by Myranda's inclusion, because why does Ramsay need a girl version of him? I can see her being a problem.
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Post by dany4eva on Apr 7, 2015 17:26:08 GMT
Thank god this has it's own thread. This sill be my first and last post in this thread heheh
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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2015 17:29:06 GMT
Even if Ramsay IS nice to Sansa at first, we'll still have to probably deal with the pointless Myranda character being awful to her. I've always been really annoyed by Myranda's inclusion, because why does Ramsay need a girl version of him? I can see her being a problem. It's gonna be a way for the writers to show Ramsay as a monster without hurting Sansa, which would be a bit much...but I think even wedding night with him is kinda an awful prospect.
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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2015 17:30:01 GMT
Thank god this has it's own thread. This sill be my first and last post in this thread heheh We need a place for people to vent all the 'what?..."WHAT?!' emotions ^^
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Post by theonionsleight on Apr 7, 2015 17:43:54 GMT
I've seen "mau" (this person who wrote about leaks on many sites, WotW, AFOIAF, aso., but got mostly deleted) said this yesterday in the comments-section under Sue's review:
SPOILER!!! (How do I use spoiler tags here?)
-Littlefinger says he knows very little about Ramsay. He considers Roose to be a very dangerous man but says, (“But even the most dangerous men can be outmaneuvered…and you have learned to maneuver from the very best.”)
-Roose Bolton questions Littlefinger’s motives in moving against the Lannisters considering the Lannisters made him one of the most powerful lords in Westeros. Basically questioning why he should trust LF. He also questions how ‘independent’ LF is considering Cersei summoned him back to KL
-LF tells Roose that since Sansa and Tyrion never consummated their marriage, they were technically never married and she still has her maidenhead. He says “I assure you she’s still a virgin. Tyrion never consummated the marriage, by the law of the land she is no man’s wife. Inspect her if you must.” Roose “I leave that to the brothel keeper. It’s her name I need…not her virtue.
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Post by day dreamer on Apr 7, 2015 17:57:39 GMT
I've seen "mau" (this person who wrote about leaks on many sites, WotW, AFOIAF, aso., but got mostly deleted) said this yesterday in the comments-section under Sue's review: SPOILER!!! (How do I use spoiler tags here?) -Littlefinger says he knows very little about Ramsay. He considers Roose to be a very dangerous man but says, (“But even the most dangerous men can be outmaneuvered…and you have learned to maneuver from the very best.”) -Roose Bolton questions Littlefinger’s motives in moving against the Lannisters considering the Lannisters made him one of the most powerful lords in Westeros. Basically questioning why he should trust LF. He also questions how ‘independent’ LF is considering Cersei summoned him back to KL -LF tells Roose that since Sansa and Tyrion never consummated their marriage, they were technically never married and she still has her maidenhead. He says “I assure you she’s still a virgin. Tyrion never consummated the marriage, by the law of the land she is no man’s wife. Inspect her if you must.” Roose “I leave that to the brothel keeper. It’s her name I need…not her virtue. Spoiler tags are [ spoiler ] text [ / spoiler ] (without the spaces of course. ) I saw that as well, and that actually floors me that Littlefinger doesn't know ANYTHING about Ramsay. The show established that he and Varys, more than any other characters seem to know a great deal about nearly everyone in the seven kingdoms. Yet Ramsay's super rapey adventures aren't known?
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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2015 18:03:32 GMT
I've seen "mau" (this person who wrote about leaks on many sites, WotW, AFOIAF, aso., but got mostly deleted) said this yesterday in the comments-section under Sue's review: SPOILER!!! (How do I use spoiler tags here?) -Littlefinger says he knows very little about Ramsay. He considers Roose to be a very dangerous man but says, (“ But even the most dangerous men can be outmaneuvered…and you have learned to maneuver from the very best.”) -Roose Bolton questions Littlefinger’s motives in moving against the Lannisters considering the Lannisters made him one of the most powerful lords in Westeros. Basically questioning why he should trust LF. He also questions how ‘independent’ LF is considering Cersei summoned him back to KL -LF tells Roose that since Sansa and Tyrion never consummated their marriage, they were technically never married and she still has her maidenhead. He says “I assure you she’s still a virgin. Tyrion never consummated the marriage, by the law of the land she is no man’s wife. Inspect her if you must.” Roose “I leave that to the brothel keeper. It’s her name I need…not her virtue. My God, I'm gonna break a rib when I hear LF say that
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 18:06:08 GMT
My God, I'm gonna break a rib when I hear LF say that Right? This is the same LF who almost got himself killed because he tried to sass Cersei Flop!
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Post by theonionsleight on Apr 7, 2015 19:11:09 GMT
I've seen "mau" (this person who wrote about leaks on many sites, WotW, AFOIAF, aso., but got mostly deleted) said this yesterday in the comments-section under Sue's review: SPOILER!!! (How do I use spoiler tags here?) -Littlefinger says he knows very little about Ramsay. He considers Roose to be a very dangerous man but says, (“But even the most dangerous men can be outmaneuvered…and you have learned to maneuver from the very best.”) -Roose Bolton questions Littlefinger’s motives in moving against the Lannisters considering the Lannisters made him one of the most powerful lords in Westeros. Basically questioning why he should trust LF. He also questions how ‘independent’ LF is considering Cersei summoned him back to KL -LF tells Roose that since Sansa and Tyrion never consummated their marriage, they were technically never married and she still has her maidenhead. He says “I assure you she’s still a virgin. Tyrion never consummated the marriage, by the law of the land she is no man’s wife. Inspect her if you must.” Roose “I leave that to the brothel keeper. It’s her name I need…not her virtue. Spoiler tags are [ spoiler ] text [ / spoiler ] (without the spaces of course. ) I saw that as well, and that actually floors me that Littlefinger doesn't know ANYTHING about Ramsay. The show established that he and Varys, more than any other characters seem to know a great deal about nearly everyone in the seven kingdoms. Yet Ramsay's super rapey adventures aren't known? Thanks! Yup. Show!LF seems to think Ramsay's probably just a nice lad and has no clue about anything, eeehhh...
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Post by theonionsleight on Apr 7, 2015 19:12:46 GMT
My God, I'm gonna break a rib when I hear LF say that Right? This is the same LF who almost got himself killed because he tried to sass Cersei Flop! I love this scene so much
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Post by theonionsleight on Apr 7, 2015 19:17:29 GMT
I've seen "mau" (this person who wrote about leaks on many sites, WotW, AFOIAF, aso., but got mostly deleted) said this yesterday in the comments-section under Sue's review: SPOILER!!! (How do I use spoiler tags here?) -Littlefinger says he knows very little about Ramsay. He considers Roose to be a very dangerous man but says, (“ But even the most dangerous men can be outmaneuvered…and you have learned to maneuver from the very best.”) -Roose Bolton questions Littlefinger’s motives in moving against the Lannisters considering the Lannisters made him one of the most powerful lords in Westeros. Basically questioning why he should trust LF. He also questions how ‘independent’ LF is considering Cersei summoned him back to KL -LF tells Roose that since Sansa and Tyrion never consummated their marriage, they were technically never married and she still has her maidenhead. He says “I assure you she’s still a virgin. Tyrion never consummated the marriage, by the law of the land she is no man’s wife. Inspect her if you must.” Roose “I leave that to the brothel keeper. It’s her name I need…not her virtue. My God, I'm gonna break a rib when I hear LF say that Man, I hope this thinking backfires for him, and bites him in his ass
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Post by day dreamer on Apr 7, 2015 23:57:33 GMT
Something bad will Happen to Sansa, then LF will go in crazy revenge/ rescue mode.
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Post by freeparking on Apr 8, 2015 0:08:20 GMT
As far as LF not knowing about Ramsay being crazy, if the Starks didn't know about him, I don't know why LF would.
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Post by ladyfevredream on Apr 8, 2015 0:09:00 GMT
I've seen "mau" (this person who wrote about leaks on many sites, WotW, AFOIAF, aso., but got mostly deleted) said this yesterday in the comments-section under Sue's review: I'm hoping your spoilers stay inside your own code, but I just have to say: While I can hear Roose saying most of that stuff, I threw up a little inside reading about him and LF discussing an inspection of Sansa's maidenhead. Just ewwwwwww, and if this happens I think it's pretty shortsighted of the show. Hey, let's just change Westerosi law willy nilly cause.....we said so and we need it in the script. ETA: I edited out the spoiler, even though it's all over the thread, LOL
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Post by ladyfevredream on Apr 8, 2015 0:11:44 GMT
And, my above post is all weird with extra tags on my own spoilers, HA
I'm sorry, while I do understand the need to condense story and all.......I really think the show has made one giant mess of Sansa, in so many ways. The only question is......will it be laughably enjoyable or down right disgusting. I get the feeling it can't be both. I have to vote for a laugh riot, I need the entertainment, not extra aggravation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 0:14:49 GMT
How will LF react when he sees Reek?
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Post by morgantayler on Apr 8, 2015 0:18:23 GMT
How will LF react when he sees Reek? I don't believe Littlefinger has ever met Theon/Reek so there probably wouldn't be any reaction.
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