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Post by Enid on Jun 6, 2015 23:21:23 GMT
It is possible Bloodraven left Dark Sister hidden in the Wall or in the cave. If I understood things right, Bloodraven decided to join the Watch and once he got there his powers went crazy, because the Wall is full of magic and it enhances people's magical abilities. After a while he disappeared north of the Wall and was considered dead, when actually he went to the cave with the Children to wait for Bran. What is not clear (I think) is if he had a vision of the White Walkers and Bran while he was on the Wall and that is why he went north, or if he just went to explore or on a mission, found the Children, discovered the White Walkers were going to come back in the future, and then went to the cave.
If he had the vision about the WW before leaving the Wall Dark Sister may be on the Wall or hidden somewhere else, if he left the Wall and then found out what is going to happen, he may have Dark Sister in the cave.
I always got the feeling Dark Sister was going to be found.
What I wonder is, if there are really around 200 Valyrian blades in Westeros, where the hell are they? we only know about a handful of blades, the rest are still a complete mystery, and is not like Valyrian steel can be easily mistaken for regular steel.
Do you think some of those blades may be hidden in the Winterfell crypts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 23:27:33 GMT
Yeah it's entirely possible other Valyrian steel blades could be hiding in Wintefell or really, any of the Noble Houses keeps and castles because most of them are quite old though Winterfell I believe is the oldest. I'm hoping that once the reality of what Valyrian Steel is becomes well known through Westeros, some of those missing 200 blades will start to show up in various houses. That would be awesome! But others here have made a valid point that having too many of them would lessen the importance, significance of them and those who were wielding them. I do agree with that as well. Also, we don't think there are that many White Walkers and since the Valyrian steel is needed for them (the wights must be burned) maybe we won't need 200 blades to defeat them? I think some well aimed dragon breath will definitely help!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 23:30:13 GMT
Enid - Oh, and as for Bloodraven - you made some excellent points there as well. We really need him to tell his story a bit better to Bran. We only got bits and pieces in the last book and it's vague. We know his history before he went to the wall, he was a sorcerer of some sort with magical abilities but many accused him of practicing dark arts before he went to the wall - or it could just be typical medieval fantasy superstition about magic in general. He could be similar to Benjen... went ranging north of the wall and just vanished, never to be seen again. If that's the case, then the sword would be with him in the cave. Can't wait to find out!
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Post by Enid on Jun 7, 2015 13:47:52 GMT
Bloodraven had everything against him when it came to his reputation: he was a bastard, an albino, and he had magic, all three things are considered bad in Westeros. And thanks to Tyrion, we have seen how the common people usually blame the Hand of the king every time Westeros suffers a crisis, and Bloodraven had to deal with a plague, a drought, and several Blackfyre rebellions. I don't think he is evil, ruthless, yes, and capable of crossing the line to get things done, and maybe he even practices dark arts, but Asoiaf has never defined what is dark magic and what isn't, Bran for example, wargs into Hodor and we know from Hodor's reaction that he doesn't like it, but is it dark magic? The FM seem to use blood magic to change faces, but is it considered a dark art? Who can actually say where the line is? The closest thing we ever got to magic rules where the ones Varamyr had, and those he learned with his master, but we also have seen other skinchangers that don't follow said rules.
Sorry for going off topic, just think that Bloodraven has a worse reputation than he deserves, maybe I'm wrong, but Westeros can be extremely unfair with those who don't fit in the westerosi norm.
Going back to the Valyrian blades, the more I think about it, the more convinced I am some of the swords in Winterfell's crypts are valyrian. It is true that we haven't seen a lot of White Walkers (especially in the books) so maybe there are just a few and they use the wights as their main army, but it may be possible there are more and we just haven't seen them yet. In any case, they are hard to kill, so the more dragonglass and valyrian weapons there are, the better.
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