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Post by Admin on May 21, 2015 10:00:47 GMT
Do you guys think we will see them this season? I think there is no way they will back LF - he is already shady as fuck with this whole Lysa killed herself story and when those of the lords who knew who Sansa is find out he gave her to Boltons, I cannot imagine they would still side with him. I'm hoping they join Stannis  however the possibility of some big battle involving them too is very small this year, they wouldn't have the budget to do so many big sequences in one year |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 10:10:40 GMT
The lords of the Vale should, at this point, tell Littlefinger to kindly go fuck himself. There's no way I can see them buying that he didn't send Sansa off to Winterfell himself, and if they really wanted to help her they would go themselves, without his prompting surely?
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Post by Admin on May 21, 2015 10:18:02 GMT
The lords of the Vale should, at this point, tell Littlefinger to kindly go fuck himself. There's no way I can see them buying that he didn't send Sansa off to Winterfell himself, and if they really wanted to help her they would go themselves, without his prompting surely? As brain damaged as LF is, I don't think he would promise Cersei their help if he had no chance of fulfilling it. Maybe he wants to manipulate Robin into ordering them to follow LF? Still, their disgust of him should be greater than duty to Robin |
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 21, 2015 11:01:38 GMT
I don't think the show will get into this sort of details. We will see them backing Littlefinger up, and that's it... No explanations as to why they didn't get their suspicious raised or something like that.
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Post by King Tommen on May 21, 2015 16:28:13 GMT
I don't think that LF ever intends to follow through on what he told Cersei, he doesn't think it will come to that. Perhaps he sees the writing on the wall when it comes to the Faith taking her down (possibly with a little nudging from him).
In any case, he's playing all sides now in order to get as many of these people to take each other off the map as possible. He'll have a new plan of attack when he sees how the dust settles. Right now, he's into causing as much chaos as possible.
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Post by janicia on May 21, 2015 17:26:18 GMT
I think Littlefinger wants to start raising his army with Cersei's permission, but there is no way he told Cersei the truth about what he plans to do with his army. Why would he march north into winter?
I think the lords of the Vale will be ok with Sansa marrying Ramsay. They don't know his reputation, and Sansa as lady of Winterfell probably sounds pretty good to them. I doubt they care enough about Sansa to go to war for her in any case. Sansa's connection to the Vale is pretty weak - she's just a cousin of the lord of the Vale.
Anyway if Littlefinger presents them with a war plan they like, it seems like they'd be willing to go to war with him in the show. They seemed happy with Littlefinger at the start of the season.
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Post by King Tommen on May 21, 2015 18:33:39 GMT
At the end of the day, LF could claim that Sansa was abducted from him while they were on the road and she is now in the clutches of the Boltons at Winterfell. He could rally the knights to go free her, sounds plausible enough. I'm not sure this is what he would actually do but that's certainly a course of action he could take if he wanted to.
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Post by day dreamer on May 22, 2015 13:34:10 GMT
I bet they don't even touch up on the Vale riders. They're just background noise at this point.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 6:55:28 GMT
I think LF will probably tell Robin about how his betrothed was stolen from him and get him all riled up to about going North to get her back or something like that.
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Post by AdmiralKyrd on May 24, 2015 1:16:59 GMT
I think LF will probably tell Robin about how his betrothed was stolen from him and get him all riled up to about going North to get her back or something like that. LF abducted Robin from the Vale using his sellsword guys and blamed it on... someone, probably the Boltons. He's already told Royce about it who is already busy mustering their army before Cersei even said anything. I don't know what happened with the riders who accompanied LF to the Vale. I assume they're all on LF's payroll somewhere, including the guy who brought Cersei's message to Winterfell. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 23:53:09 GMT
At the end of the day, LF could claim that Sansa was abducted from him while they were on the road and she is now in the clutches of the Boltons at Winterfell. He could rally the knights to go free her, sounds plausible enough. I'm not sure this is what he would actually do but that's certainly a course of action he could take if he wanted to. This is what I think he will do as well. He's going to lie to the Vale Lords with a different story than the one he told Cersei and the one he told the Boltons to get all three of them fighting one another. LF definitely knew Cersei was going down - he gave a 'gift' (Lancel or Olyvar whichever theory you prefer) to Lady Olenna to help take out Cersei the same as he worked with her to take out Joffrey. The Lords of the Vale will most likely NOT ride against the Boltons with winter here but I have no idea how they will play that one out in Season 6 - depends on how the outcome of the Bolton/Baratheon fight goes and when the White Walkers start their march south of the wall. |
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