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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 21:44:10 GMT
Oh, now that sounds interesting! I would support that change. But would Roose give him any men to this possibly suicidal mission? That much I haven't figured out yet. But I think this would be a pretty good way of compacting the ambiguous outcome of the Stan-Bolton battle at the end of ADWD and the Pink Letter into a series of scenes that would actually fit pretty snugly into one episode, potentially without even giving away which of the key players are alive and dead. (Though I'd prefer to know tbh, I still resent GrrM for that ending). |
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2015 21:44:37 GMT
I hope this is what happens because the only alternative in my mind is Brienne running towards Stannis and killing him while shouting 'RENLY DANCED WITH ME' I think the Bri killing Stannis stuff is a false lead, setting up her decision NOT TO kill him instead of her killing him. I think if she were to kill him, they'd make it more shocking. Well I hope so, cause I may seriously have a nervous breakdown if it happens  |
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2015 21:45:42 GMT
Konrad do you think we see Yara this year? Seems odd to give her one scene last year and not have her at all in this season...
also do you know why we are not getting 'previously on' clips earlier in the week anymore?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 21:46:04 GMT
This would give them an opportunity to go on with the battle offscreen. That would be horrible.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 21:53:25 GMT
Konrad do you think we see Yara this year? Seems odd to give her one scene last year and not have her at all in this season... also do you know why we are not getting 'previously on' clips earlier in the week anymore? There hasn't been any indication that we will besides the IMDB info saying she'll be in 507, 509 and 510, which could well be a fan-edit that no one bothered to delete yet. I hope she shows up though, I think Gemma Whelan does a great job in the part. I do have trouble seeing how she'd fit in the with the Northern plot though now, streamlined as it is.
Her CV says her commitment to the role is for "multiple seasons, ongoing" and she's credited for 2014 but that could just be her credit for s4 (since it aired then) rather than saying she shot scenes for s5 in 2014. I've seen CVs credit 2014 or 2015 variously for s5 roles, so it's hard to say based on the info we have now.
As for the previously-ons...I dunno. I blame lazy HBO interns.
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 12, 2015 21:56:03 GMT
I hope this is what happens because the only alternative in my mind is Brienne running towards Stannis and killing him while shouting 'RENLY DANCED WITH ME' I think the Bri killing Stannis stuff is a false lead, setting up her decision NOT TO kill him instead of her killing him. I think if she were to kill him, they'd make it more shocking. As much as I like this idea, Brienne deciding to (or at least try to) kill Stannis links nicely* to the theme of her trying to keep her oaths - like she's "Oathkeeper" of the show. *Well, as nice as killing Stannis could be. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 21:58:21 GMT
I'm more inclined to think, now that we know she's not staying at CB, that that shot is just her collapsing because she's too frail to keep pressing on through the winter conditions. I remember back on AFOIAF someone posted about extras playing Stan's troops being made-up to look gaunt from the conditions of their marching south, so I think it makes that Selyse too would be effected by it similarly.
I think she's looking up to finally see Winterfell, rather like Jojen collapsing in 410 just as they arrive at the great weirwood on the hill. In the same, I think this picture of Mel is her looking out and seeing WF.
I remember those posts as well. Your theories are even better. That's probably what's going to happen. I don't know about that Selyse shot - it does look like she's very upset and seeing something tragic which led to all the Shireen sacrifice conspiracies ... that she was actually regretting her decision to sacrifice her. I don't buy those theories and refuse to believe they're going to go that route with the story anyways so maybe I'm reading too much into that shot of Selyse on the ground because I can't think of anything shocking that would cause her to fall like that unless it's Stannis being slain by Brienne!!  Sorry Sati, just had to throw that in there to tease you! (FWIW I do not think Stannis bites the big one yet either) The other shot of Melisandre ... doesn't she seem a bit unhappy or at least concerned looking also? The men in the background ... wish they weren't blurry but they do look covered in snow so perhaps someone or a lot of someones have frozen to death. |
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Post by associatemaester on May 12, 2015 22:53:16 GMT
Do the tops of the tents/buildings that are in the background with Selyse and the Baratheon soldiers match either CB or the tents we've seen? I can't tell.
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Post by associatemaester on May 12, 2015 23:03:57 GMT
I think anything more speculation with Stannis' storyline needs to this quote from liam into account:
What is Davos’s position under Stannis now? Does he have more power?
Davos would never think of it in terms of victories or of spoils; there’s a job to be done. I think his battle is keeping Stannis on the right track. He’s not a military man, but you can well imagine that as the series progresses he’s going to come up against it, and specifically because of the Red Woman (Melisandre). And, without giving anything away, this comes to a very, very serious and dramatic conclusion. Maybe we shouldn’t use the word conclusion – a dramatic head, later on in the series, which is extraordinary.
Whether this means dramatic tension that Mel leaves/abandons Stannis and/or it involves some sort of battle. Who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 8:26:37 GMT
I hope this is what happens because the only alternative in my mind is Brienne running towards Stannis and killing him while shouting 'RENLY DANCED WITH ME' I think the Bri killing Stannis stuff is a false lead, setting up her decision NOT TO kill him instead of her killing him. I think if she were to kill him, they'd make it more shocking. :/ |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 8:48:14 GMT
I think the Bri killing Stannis stuff is a false lead, setting up her decision NOT TO kill him instead of her killing him. I think if she were to kill him, they'd make it more shocking. :/ I've been wrong about a lot of things, Roose. I like when I'm wrong. If we were always right with our predictions it'd make for boring viewing.
I was right however that the Brienne set up as was would go against such a moment being shocking. And in the end it was played in such a way that was not supposed to be shocking. The scene was all about the inevitability of it all, not the surprise.
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