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Post by Admin on May 12, 2015 12:07:02 GMT
OK hear me out - there is a big build up in last episode both with Ramsay swearing to Roose to help him with Stannis and with Stannis leaving Castle Black.
We know that Ramsay must want to prove himself because he is about to have an adorable, legitimate competition.
What if it's Ramsay attacking Stannis' army in the night, setting up the fire to the tents? It would be even crazier if at that point Asha showed up and won with his forces - some retaliation for the infamous 4x06 moment. Ramsay won't die of course but that will lead to Roose being super pissed off and using that whole rue the day quote AND Ramsay's absence would be a good opportunity for Sansa and Theon to escape WF and Melisandre to abandon ship if he thinks Stannis is dead
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 12, 2015 12:12:10 GMT
OK hear me out - there is a big build up in last episode both with Ramsay swearing to Roose to help him with Stannis and with Stannis leaving Castle Black. We know that Ramsay must want to prove himself because he is about to have an adorable, legitimate competition. What if it's Ramsay attacking Stannis' army in the night, setting up the fire to the tents? It would be even crazier if at that point Asha showed up and won with his forces - some retaliation for the infamous 4x06 moment. Ramsay won't die of course but that will lead to Roose being super pissed off and using that whole rue the day quote AND Ramsay's absence would be a good opportunity for Sansa and Theon to escape WF and Melisandre to abandon ship if he thinks Stannis is dead Not too sure about YarAsha or "Rue the day" actually being said - but other than that it seems really possible and I can imagine Ramsay doing that sort of thing |
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Post by day dreamer on May 12, 2015 12:25:19 GMT
I think "Rue the day" will probably be said after Ramsay's wedding night. Maybe everyone will hear Sansa's cries like they heard Jeyne's in the book.  I'm not sure about Yara coming back though. She wasn't spotted filming, right? I'd love to see it though, because she was so underused on the show and really was the only other interesting Greyjoy outside of Theon to me. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 13:00:28 GMT
I think "Rue the day" will probably be said after Ramsay's wedding night. Maybe everyone will hear Sansa's cries like they heard Jeyne's in the book.   |
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Post by boojam on May 12, 2015 14:24:09 GMT
OK hear me out - there is a big build up in last episode both with Ramsay swearing to Roose to help him with Stannis and with Stannis leaving Castle Black. We know that Ramsay must want to prove himself because he is about to have an adorable, legitimate competition. What if it's Ramsay attacking Stannis' army in the night, setting up the fire to the tents? It would be even crazier if at that point Asha showed up and won with his forces - some retaliation for the infamous 4x06 moment. Ramsay won't die of course but that will lead to Roose being super pissed off and using that whole rue the day quote AND Ramsay's absence would be a good opportunity for Sansa and Theon to escape WF and Melisandre to abandon ship if he thinks Stannis is dead Seems the North and north North, show up in every episode this season. Thought they might skip Stannis an episode? Gemma shows up in Ep7? Could be. That would be interesting since in the books Asha seems on the verge, or maybe has joined Stannis, tho seems she has damn few men to thrown in. Was hoping might see Gemma in E6, guess not. |
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2015 15:09:26 GMT
OK hear me out - there is a big build up in last episode both with Ramsay swearing to Roose to help him with Stannis and with Stannis leaving Castle Black. We know that Ramsay must want to prove himself because he is about to have an adorable, legitimate competition. What if it's Ramsay attacking Stannis' army in the night, setting up the fire to the tents? It would be even crazier if at that point Asha showed up and won with his forces - some retaliation for the infamous 4x06 moment. Ramsay won't die of course but that will lead to Roose being super pissed off and using that whole rue the day quote AND Ramsay's absence would be a good opportunity for Sansa and Theon to escape WF and Melisandre to abandon ship if he thinks Stannis is dead Seems the North and north North, show up in every episode this season. Thought they might skip Stannis an episode? Gemma shows up in Ep7? Could be. That would be interesting since in the books Asha seems on the verge, or maybe has joined Stannis, tho seems she has damn few men to thrown in. Was hoping might see Gemma in E6, guess not. I think Stannis is not in the upcoming episode |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 15:47:10 GMT
Stannis will appear in episodes 7 and 9 and then in the finale, meeting Theon.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 18:41:56 GMT
I think "Rue the day" will probably be said after Ramsay's wedding night. Maybe everyone will hear Sansa's cries like they heard Jeyne's in the book. I'm not sure about Yara coming back though. She wasn't spotted filming, right? I'd love to see it though, because she was so underused on the show and really was the only other interesting Greyjoy outside of Theon to me. Sansa will not let out a sound. I'm sure. Stannis will fight someone in S5, since he was covered in blood in one of the videos. Probably the Greyjoys, who he will bump into on the way to Winterfell. But if they're going to include Yara this season, they need to show her soon. She can't just appear for the first time in S5 and get caught in the same scene. Stannis might already face some Bolton forces (tents on fire) and this might trigger the "royal family" retreating to Castle Black. Maybe Ramsay does something incredibly stupid when the Northern lords are around? Oh, we don't have Northern lords.. What did Ramsay actually do in the books to get that comment from Roose? I'm frustrated that I can't remember, since I just read the WF events from ADWD |
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2015 19:04:05 GMT
I think "Rue the day" will probably be said after Ramsay's wedding night. Maybe everyone will hear Sansa's cries like they heard Jeyne's in the book. I'm not sure about Yara coming back though. She wasn't spotted filming, right? I'd love to see it though, because she was so underused on the show and really was the only other interesting Greyjoy outside of Theon to me. Sansa will not let out a sound. I'm sure. Stannis will fight someone in S5, since he was covered in blood in one of the videos. Probably the Greyjoys, who he will bump into on the way to Winterfell. But if they're going to include Yara this season, they need to show her soon. She can't just appear for the first time in S5 and get caught in the same scene.Stannis might already face some Bolton forces (tents on fire) and this might trigger the "royal family" retreating to Castle Black. Maybe Ramsay does something incredibly stupid when the Northern lords are around? Oh, we don't have Northern lords.. What did Ramsay actually do in the books to get that comment from Roose? I'm frustrated that I can't remember, since I just read the WF events from ADWD I have a feeling this is exactly what's gonna happen  |
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2015 19:15:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 19:27:20 GMT
Sansa will not let out a sound. I'm sure. Stannis will fight someone in S5, since he was covered in blood in one of the videos. Probably the Greyjoys, who he will bump into on the way to Winterfell. But if they're going to include Yara this season, they need to show her soon. She can't just appear for the first time in S5 and get caught in the same scene.Stannis might already face some Bolton forces (tents on fire) and this might trigger the "royal family" retreating to Castle Black. Maybe Ramsay does something incredibly stupid when the Northern lords are around? Oh, we don't have Northern lords.. What did Ramsay actually do in the books to get that comment from Roose? I'm frustrated that I can't remember, since I just read the WF events from ADWD I have a feeling this is exactly what's gonna happen Might be that we won't see Yara and the other Greyjoys this season. We might see the Moot next season. Thanks! We could hear this line if Ramsay humiliates Sansa publicly or something.. or then he just acts arrogant and overplays his position in front of Roose. The show is not that great in adapting quotes nowadays. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 19:48:02 GMT
I think "Rue the day" will probably be said after Ramsay's wedding night. Maybe everyone will hear Sansa's cries like they heard Jeyne's in the book. I'm not sure about Yara coming back though. She wasn't spotted filming, right? I'd love to see it though, because she was so underused on the show and was the only Greyjoy outside of Theon.Fixed that for you!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 21:21:28 GMT
I can see Ramsay raiding Stannis's camps and perhaps even kidnapping someone (Selyse, remember the trailer shot).
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 21:23:47 GMT
I can see Ramsay raiding Stannis's camps and perhaps even kidnapping someone (Selyse, remember the trailer shot). I'm more inclined to think, now that we know she's not staying at CB, that that shot is just her collapsing because she's too frail to keep pressing on through the winter conditions. I remember back on AFOIAF someone posted about extras playing Stan's troops being made-up to look gaunt from the conditions of their marching south, so I think it makes that Selyse too would be effected by it similarly.
I think she's looking up to finally see Winterfell, rather like Jojen collapsing in 410 just as they arrive at the great weirwood on the hill. In the same, I think this picture of Mel is her looking out and seeing WF.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 21:30:17 GMT
I can see Ramsay raiding Stannis's camps and perhaps even kidnapping someone (Selyse, remember the trailer shot). I'm more inclined to think, now that we know she's not staying at CB, that that shot is just her collapsing because she's too frail to keep pressing on through the winter conditions. I remember back on AFOIAF someone posted about extras playing Stan's troops being made-up to look gaunt from the conditions of their marching south, so I think it makes that Selyse too would be effected by it similarly.
I think she's looking up to finally see Winterfell, rather like Jojen collapsing in 410 just as they arrive at the great weirwood on the hill. In the same, I think this picture of Mel is her looking out and seeing WF.
I remember those posts as well. Your theories are even better. That's probably what's going to happen. |
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2015 21:32:31 GMT
I can see Ramsay raiding Stannis's camps and perhaps even kidnapping someone (Selyse, remember the trailer shot). I hope it happens |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 21:35:50 GMT
I'm more inclined to think, now that we know she's not staying at CB, that that shot is just her collapsing because she's too frail to keep pressing on through the winter conditions. I remember back on AFOIAF someone posted about extras playing Stan's troops being made-up to look gaunt from the conditions of their marching south, so I think it makes that Selyse too would be effected by it similarly.
I think she's looking up to finally see Winterfell, rather like Jojen collapsing in 410 just as they arrive at the great weirwood on the hill. In the same, I think this picture of Mel is her looking out and seeing WF.
I remember those posts as well. Your theories are even better. That's probably what's going to happen. Following upon that, which if FarFarAwaySite is correct, is in ep. 509, I'd guess that that's when Reek and Sansa jump off of the WF walls and make their way with Bri (and hopefully a still-alive Pod) to Stan's camp. My new guess is that Ramsay will attack Stan's camp in revenge (for what he thinks is him stealing his bride and his Reek) in ep. 510 and that Mel will ride away back to CB after seeing some sort of vision in the flames of the burning camp. This is the sort of chaotic sequence that David Nutter would do REALLY well.
I think it's very possible that after the tents are set aflame and Ramsay's attack begins that we won't know what's happened to Stan, Davos, Brienne, Sansa, Reek, Ramsay etc. (as Sophie said in one interview "the most ambiguous thing ever") and that we'll only have Mel's word that she brings to Jon and co. at CB (which could potentially be bullshit motivated just to finally get him to go south). Then he'll rally Tormund's wildlings and some of the NW men loyal to him to march south and then...For the Watch.
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2015 21:37:49 GMT
I remember those posts as well. Your theories are even better. That's probably what's going to happen. Following upon that, which if FarFarAwaySite is correct, is in ep. 509, I'd guess that that's when Reek and Sansa jump off of the WF walls and make their way with Bri (and hopefully a still-alive Pod) to Stan's camp. My new guess is that Ramsay will attack Stan's camp in revenge, for what he thinks is him stealing his bride and his Reek, in ep. 510 and that Mel will ride away back to CB.
I think it's very possible that after the tents are set aflame and Ramsay's attack begins that we won't know what's happened to Stan, Davos, Brienne, Sansa, Reek, Ramsay etc. (as Sophie said in one interview "the most ambiguous thing ever") and that we'll only have Mel's word that she brings to Jon and co. at CB (which could potentially be bullshit motivated just to finally get him to go south). Then he'll rally Tormund's wildlings and some of the NW men loyal to him to march south and then...For the Watch.
I hope this is what happens because the only alternative in my mind is Brienne running towards Stannis and killing him while shouting 'RENLY DANCED WITH ME' |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 21:40:04 GMT
I remember those posts as well. Your theories are even better. That's probably what's going to happen. Following upon that, which if FarFarAwaySite is correct, is in ep. 509, I'd guess that that's when Reek and Sansa jump off of the WF walls and make their way with Bri (and hopefully a still-alive Pod) to Stan's camp. My new guess is that Ramsay will attack Stan's camp in revenge (for what he thinks is him stealing his bride and his Reek) in ep. 510 and that Mel will ride away back to CB.
I think it's very possible that after the tents are set aflame and Ramsay's attack begins that we won't know what's happened to Stan, Davos, Brienne, Sansa, Reek, Ramsay etc. (as Sophie said in one interview "the most ambiguous thing ever") and that we'll only have Mel's word that she brings to Jon and co. at CB (which could potentially be bullshit motivated just to finally get him to go south). Then he'll rally Tormund's wildlings and some of the NW men loyal to him to march south and then...For the Watch.
Oh, now that sounds interesting! I would support that change. But would Roose give him any men to this possibly suicidal mission? |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 21:40:43 GMT
I hope this is what happens because the only alternative in my mind is Brienne running towards Stannis and killing him while shouting 'RENLY DANCED WITH ME' I think the Bri killing Stannis stuff is a false lead, setting up her decision NOT TO kill him instead of her killing him. I think if she were to kill him, they'd make it more shocking. |
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