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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 11, 2015 12:23:18 GMT
Hey guys. I know this could be discussed on the promo thread, but I'm kind of close to a heart attack here, and decided to create a new one. So, after being denied Lady Stoneheart, Victarion and Moqorro, and seeing Barristan dying, I'm really afraid the show mighr ditch Olenna as well. I know it is soon to say, but it seems Cersei and Littlefinger are forging an alliance there, and being against Littlefinger usually means you will lose in the show. Olenna is possibly my favorite character who is still alive on the show, does anybody else think D&D might kill her this season, maybe along with her grandchildren and Mace, in order to rush into the Tyrell downfall?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 16:13:49 GMT
Not useless at all.
I don't really think Littlefinger and Cersei are allying. I see it as more of an temporilarily teaming-up which results in Loras' execution and Margaery's arrest.
I don't think they will kill Olenna this season. She will be one of the judges in Cersei's trial next season.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 16:24:29 GMT
Not useless at all. I don't really think Littlefinger and Cersei are allying. I see it as more of an temporilarily teaming-up which results in Loras' execution and Margaery's arrest. I don't think they will kill Olenna this season. She will be one of the judges in Cersei's trial next season. Do we know this, or is that reasoned speculation? I can never keep straight what we actually know vs. what we assume will happen based on tips and clues pointing us in a certain direction.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 16:26:16 GMT
Not useless at all. I don't really think Littlefinger and Cersei are allying. I see it as more of an temporilarily teaming-up which results in Loras' execution and Margaery's arrest. I don't think they will kill Olenna this season. She will be one of the judges in Cersei's trial next season. Do we know this, or is that reasoned speculation? I can never keep straight what we actually know vs. what we assume will happen based on tips and clues pointing us in a certain direction. Just speculation.
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Post by day dreamer on May 11, 2015 17:12:56 GMT
I think Olenna will be safe, I agree with others that she'll probably be a judge at Cersei's trial. Loras though, he's probably a goner.
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 11, 2015 20:48:39 GMT
You guys fill me with hope wouldn't like to see Loras die either, but well, better him than her!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 1:06:04 GMT
The Queen of Thorns still has a lot of usefulness left in the story and they have such a great actress for the role, they're going to want to ride that bandwagon as long as they can if they're smart. Now whatever outcome happens after the dust settles from all the trials and such is anybody's guess but I imagine there will come a time when her usefulness is no longer needed but why kill her off. Not every character has to die when no longer in the story, some just row off into the distance never to be heard from again haha.
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 12, 2015 1:25:29 GMT
I doubt it - D&D seem to like Olenna (and Diana Rigg) so much that they have expanded her role quite significantly, so I don't think she'll be leaving quite so soon.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 8:55:28 GMT
They need someone smart to represent house Tyrell in the upcoming seasons. D&D love that character and I think that she will have a huge role in KL next season.
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Post by AdmiralKyrd on May 15, 2015 2:28:59 GMT
With Randyll Tarly on the horizon, the Tyrells aren't going down quickly without a fight.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on May 16, 2015 18:56:55 GMT
I think House Tyrell is in for a major fall in the books after surviving better than their rivals for so long, but I don't think D&D would dare cut Diana Rigg before they had to when they clearly enjoy making use of her on the show.
But what do I know? I still hope the Seven can spare Loras through trial by combat, I've been watching the Mad Men marathon this week instead of keeping up with all the latest tidbits here.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 19:03:07 GMT
I'm not too worried about her. I feel like even if she were killed off she'd meet her murder with annoyance.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on May 16, 2015 23:36:42 GMT
I'm not too worried about her. I feel like even if she were killed off she'd meet her murder with annoyance. Haha, that's the only conceivable way in which Olenna could meet her end. Showing downright disdain for her assassin. That said, I very much hope she survives another season (hell, until the end).
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Post by Alayne's Shadow on May 17, 2015 13:43:24 GMT
Olenna's survival is paramount to their plot. She'll probably survive until next season at the very least. I'm betting Mace will survive his rendez-vous in Braavos. Loras's marked though.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 13:48:16 GMT
Olenna's survival is paramount to their plot. She'll probably survive until next season at the very least. I'm betting Mace will survive his rendez-vous in Braavos. Loras's marked though. I think you're right about Loras, which will break my heart. I don't particularly like their portrayal of him on the show (having no character traits other than "gay" since season 2), but if he ends up getting executed by religious zealots for being gay... urgh
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 17, 2015 14:13:30 GMT
Olenna's survival is paramount to their plot. She'll probably survive until next season at the very least. I'm betting Mace will survive his rendez-vous in Braavos. Loras's marked though. I think you're right about Loras, which will break my heart. I don't particularly like their portrayal of him on the show (having no character traits other than "gay" since season 2), but if he ends up getting executed by religious zealots for being gay... urgh I am with you. I hate how Show Loras is portrayed, but if he does get executed for being gay... That will be awful. Even worse than that. Imagine if the demands a trial by combat and gets slaughtered by Evil Lancel. I don't know what I would think about that.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 18:10:21 GMT
With Randyll Tarly on the horizon, the Tyrells aren't going down quickly without a fight. Does Tarly show up this series? I'm not up to date on the entire series casting. I mean they did throw a bit of teasing his way last episode...
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 18:11:05 GMT
With Randyll Tarly on the horizon, the Tyrells aren't going down quickly without a fight. Does Tarly show up this series? I'm not up to date on the entire series casting. I mean they did throw a bit of teasing his way last episode... I doubt it. He might appear when Sam goes to Oldtown, but I don't expect anything to come of that until next season.
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Post by Alayne's Shadow on May 17, 2015 20:50:23 GMT
Olenna's survival is paramount to their plot. She'll probably survive until next season at the very least. I'm betting Mace will survive his rendez-vous in Braavos. Loras's marked though. I think you're right about Loras, which will break my heart. I don't particularly like their portrayal of him on the show (having no character traits other than "gay" since season 2), but if he ends up getting executed by religious zealots for being gay... urgh It's a sad day indeed. I don't think he dies this episode, but I think he'll die in episode 8, if only to up the stakes for Cersei to accept the WOS. I hate his portrayal, but
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Post by janicia on May 18, 2015 23:25:12 GMT
I think Varys might kill her at the end of the season. It seems likely that she'll be the one running Kings Landing at that point, not Kevan. It would be a sad scene, since Varys and Olenna did actually like each other. And Olenna's death would deliver the book 5 epilogue gut-punch in a way that Kevan's death never could.
But since they bothered to re-introduce Kevan, that probably means Olenna is safe for now.
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