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Post by Father of Dragons on Sept 12, 2022 15:09:15 GMT
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Post by day dreamer on Sept 12, 2022 16:41:04 GMT
The Targ incest  I thought it was an interesting juxtaposition between Rhaenyra and Allicent's sex lives. I felt bad for them both for difference reasons. Laughed my ass off at the Bracken/Blackwood exchange. I think the next episode is our last one with the younger actors, which bums me out a bit as I really like Milly. |
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Post by kingeomer on Sept 12, 2022 17:00:26 GMT
Despite not digging the Targaryen family, I do
dig this show so far.
I think episode 3 was the weakest of the four so far.
We should have seen Daemon vs Crab Feeder.
This was a strong episode for Viserys where he seemed
to be in charge. I like that he was on to Otto and Rhanyres
Showing the difference between passion and duty was well done. As was the pleasure palace scene. It managed to let you know what was happening without feeling exploitive.
I cannot imagine what Cole will feel about R’s impending marriage.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Sept 13, 2022 1:51:10 GMT
Laughed my ass off at the Bracken/Blackwood exchange. there's also a frey and a tully in the line of bacholerette contestants, i believe. now i just need a tully identified by muppet first name. (there was a tully knight in the line daemon rode past before choosing otto's son in the tourney, but i didn't catch that on first watch.) eta: i think it was just the mooton salmon in this ep, actually. the blackwood kid was the mvp of the ep, disappointed in rhaenyra for liking the bracken heckler. tho we know she has assholes from her crush on daemon. |
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Post by Father of Dragons on Sept 13, 2022 21:31:21 GMT
This episode delivered Storm's End and the Blackwood/Bracken feud and both in the one scene. Felt very fan servicey but honestly I loved every second of it  And hey maybe it's not the last time we'll see Storm's End this season? I will say though - and I know it's early days yet - I think outside of a handful of moments (not zero of course), I never felt properly uncomfortable watching GoT***. Maybe that's down to the stuff from the books they chose to keep or cut, or how they framed that stuff, or maybe I was just a bit desensitised to most of it. We're only 4 episodes into Hot D and there are multiple moments that have really made me uneasy: the childbirth, the stag getting killed, and now this horrible nighttime sequence. I think it's down to the direction of these moments that make them stand out more than GoT's, this episode's direction in particular felt really precise and deliberate. Every episode I'm liking more and more the routes they're going with Rhaenyra and Alicent, and I'm curious to see how they go about Criston's story if this is how these events played out.
***Actually after thinking about it for a bit, that's not the case. There's plenty of stuff in GoT that made me uncomfortable, there's just less of it in the later seasons (6-8) so it's not at the front of my mind. I do still think there's an increase in the frequency of these moments in HotD though.
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Post by Enid on Sept 14, 2022 18:33:20 GMT
I liked the episode.
GoT and ASOIAF have made me immune to incest (fictional incest, can't stomach the idea IRL) so I enjoyed the episode a lot. I loved the contrast scenes between Alicent and Rhaenyra, how one is trapped by duty because she followed her father's orders and believes deeply in the values she was taught, and believes her way of living is the right one even though she is clearly miserable, while the other decides to break the rules and defy convention, and she gets to go out, enjoy the city, have sex because she wanted, and enjoy it.
Just from the sex scenes my instinct told me the director was a woman, and I was right.
It may sound silly, but there is usually a very clear difference in how romance/sex scenes are handled and filmed when a woman is directing. They tend to feel more intimate and sensual rather than, you know, two women fingering each other while a character explains the plot.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Sept 15, 2022 10:39:43 GMT
Just from the sex scenes my instinct told me the director was a woman, and I was right. It may sound silly, but there is usually a very clear difference in how romance/sex scenes are handled and filmed when a woman is directing. They tend to feel more intimate and sensual rather than, you know, two women fingering each other while a character explains the plot. they also have an intimacy coordinator which got never did. all 3 scenes were from the female character's pov and the alicent/viserys one was most uncomfortable but very different from the tits-jiggling painful early dany/drogo sex scenes which we know made emilia uncomfortable. (tho i remember michelle mclaren did the tits-jiggling rape scenes at craster's keep so maybe it's the right female director and the right showrunners.) also dayum  ***Actually after thinking about it for a bit, that's not the case. There's plenty of stuff in GoT that made me uncomfortable, there's just less of it in the later seasons (6-8) so it's not at the front of my mind. I do still think there's an increase in the frequency of these moments in HotD though.
bro, i was gonna say, are you so much a stannis fan that shireen's burning didn't make you sick? |
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Post by Father of Dragons on Sept 15, 2022 16:55:03 GMT
***Actually after thinking about it for a bit, that's not the case. There's plenty of stuff in GoT that made me uncomfortable, there's just less of it in the later seasons (6-8) so it's not at the front of my mind. I do still think there's an increase in the frequency of these moments in HotD though.
bro, i was gonna say, are you so much a stannis fan that shireen's burning didn't make you sick? It's only been two days, but since I said that I've been thinking nonstop about Game of Thrones' worst/shocking moments, to the point that I've even been reading the wikipedia summaries of older episodes. And it turns out my memory is not as good as I thought it was! There is actually a worrying amount of that show that I've forgotten, considering how much time I 'devoted' to it while it was running. |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Sept 16, 2022 8:35:25 GMT
bro, i was gonna say, are you so much a stannis fan that shireen's burning didn't make you sick? It's only been two days, but since I said that I've been thinking nonstop about Game of Thrones' worst/shocking moments, to the point that I've even been reading the wikipedia summaries of older episodes. And it turns out my memory is not as good as I thought it was! There is actually a worrying amount of that show that I've forgotten, considering how much time I 'devoted' to it while it was running. honestly, that's probably a good thing. i'm glad my memories are starting to fade but i still have knowledge of all the rape and torture and the shireen burning. i feel like the difference a lot of that on got was there to shock and not always filmed in the most tasteful manner, just "ooo look how horrible this world is, be glad you don't live there!". whereas so far in hot d every uncomfortable scene has a clear purpose and i think tptb are aware of how these themes of gender issues still very much resonate in the modern world. obvs this was filmed before the repeal of roe v. wade and is not an american production, but the scenes of aemma being c-sectioned without her consent or even the truth from viserys and rhaenyra getting sent plan t from viserys while alicent is the dutiful babymaker feel very relevant when control over reproduction and sexuality are still very much battles to be fought. |
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on Sept 17, 2022 17:53:26 GMT
The interpersonal relationships are very interesting so far. I like how it builds off a lot of what was rumor in fire and blood. The truths seem rather mixed. I'm looking forward to how they're going to handle Rhaenyra and Laenor's relationship, especially in regard to certain rumors. I think so far the show is really good, it definitely has the throne's spirit.
Also, pretty sure from the preview next week that we are going to be getting Mushroom, so it'll be interesting how many of his claims are shown to be true.
I haven't read/watched a lot of the material around the production. Is there any word on when the time jump will occur?
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Post by Father of Dragons on Sept 17, 2022 20:27:43 GMT
The interpersonal relationships are very interesting so far. I like how it builds off a lot of what was rumor in fire and blood. The truths seem rather mixed. I'm looking forward to how they're going to handle Rhaenyra and Laenor's relationship, especially in regard to certain rumors. I think so far the show is really good, it definitely has the throne's spirit. Also, pretty sure from the preview next week that we are going to be getting Mushroom, so it'll be interesting how many of his claims are shown to be true. I haven't read/watched a lot of the material around the production. Is there any word on when the time jump will occur? I think I read that reviewers got access to the first 6 episodes, so I assume by that point the older cast will have taken over. |
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Post by Enid on Sept 18, 2022 18:27:53 GMT
The interpersonal relationships are very interesting so far. I like how it builds off a lot of what was rumor in fire and blood. The truths seem rather mixed. I'm looking forward to how they're going to handle Rhaenyra and Laenor's relationship, especially in regard to certain rumors. I think so far the show is really good, it definitely has the throne's spirit. Also, pretty sure from the preview next week that we are going to be getting Mushroom, so it'll be interesting how many of his claims are shown to be true. I haven't read/watched a lot of the material around the production. Is there any word on when the time jump will occur? I think I read that reviewers got access to the first 6 episodes, so I assume by that point the older cast will have taken over. Episode 5 is the last one with the younger cast, episode 6 starts with a bug time jump and the older actors. |
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And hey maybe it's not the last time we'll see Storm's End this season?
