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Post by DaveyJoe on Jan 14, 2018 23:22:29 GMT
So Y'all shat on me for hating 6x09 but it displayed the same awful writing that was persistent in season 7.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jan 14, 2018 23:26:15 GMT
Yeah the writing is not nearly as sharp as it once was. I still enjoy it tho.
Even a bad game of thrones episode is a lot better than a lot of other television out there haha.
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Post by DaveyJoe on Jan 14, 2018 23:35:42 GMT
I was hyped every week but it's so disappointing when a show's quality declines. GoT was amazing season 1-5 and when they ran out material it just wasn't the same. And it's weird being invested in the books but having the story finished by a newly inferior adaptation.
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Post by Singer of Death on Jan 15, 2018 4:08:35 GMT
Even though season 6 and 7's quality weren't the same as their previous seasons, i still enjoy it. Though i admitted that i have issues with the latter, especially with the whole wright hunt arc.
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Post by kingeomer on Jan 15, 2018 13:40:41 GMT
So Y'all shat on me for hating 6x09 but it displayed the same awful writing that was persistent in season 7. Not me. 6x09 was overrated in my book. I was hyped every week but it's so disappointing when a show's quality declines. GoT was amazing season 1-5 and when they ran out material it just wasn't the same. And it's weird being invested in the books but having the story finished by a newly inferior adaptation. THIS. Granted most shows as they get to their later years are usually never as good as they are in their earlier seasons. Especially when you talk about shows that are hitting a seventh, eighth season. I think what is helping GoT not to shed the audience the way TWD has-is announcing a end date and sticking to it. Season 7 was a mess. Personally, while I know a lot of characters died because they died in the books, it's been really hard for the show to replace lost really great performers (i.e. Charles Dance, for instance). And some of the storylines that they just dropped (LSH) or severely altered (the North Remembers) could have been well done and well acted. Some of the characters have been reduced to tropes (hello Arya and Jon) and some characters only have the direction that the plot gives them (hi Jaime). I think D&D got tired of the show and rather then focusing on what made it great and tried to continue in that vein, went with the shock of the week and dragon scenes. It's going to be really hard to say, was it disservice to adapt this show before GRRM finished the books? Who knows because we'll never know if he will actually finish them. |
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Post by Basil on Jan 15, 2018 16:10:52 GMT
Game of Thrones lost me about three seasons ago. I'm not saying the writing is bad now, because I don't think it is ... per se. But in my eyes, it definitely lacks what made it so good to begin with. Game of Thrones today is a very different show from what it used to be a few years ago. It has in a way become the very thing we were promised it would never be - a very traditional fantasy story about heroes in shining armour fighting one-dimensionally evil bad guys (dead or undead). What it does, it does well, but it's just not why I fell in love with this show. Since I do not find ASoIaF lore to be particularly interesting, the main draw for me have always been the characters. A lot of my favourite characters are dead or have been cut from the show (or both  ), and for various reasons, some of the characters that I used to love have lost all their appeal to me. Jon, Dany, Sansa, Bran, to name a few. There are only a few that are still kicking that I still love and care about just as much as I did back in Season 1, a rare few characters who haven't lost what made them compelling to begin with. They are Cersei, Jaime and to a lesser extent Tyrion, and much of that is thanks to the fact that they are played by some of the best actors on the show. I care zero about Jon and Dany at this point, and I'm actively put off by their relationship and especially the way it is portrayed in the show. Ironically, Jon's death somehow made him even more one-dimensionally heroic. As good of a job D&D have done adapting certain parts of the story, others they have gotten so completely and utterly wrong, it makes me die a little bit on the inside everytime I think about it. The way they handled the whole Frey situation for instance. They went about it in the exact opposite way than the books did. Instead of showing the futility of revenge, and how it leads to just more pointless death and suffering, they made it another "epic" Arya moment, for the audience to go "slay gurl". They seriously couldn't have missed the point harder if they had tried, it almost makes me question if they even understand or care about some of the core themes of the source material that they're adapting. Also, nowadays there is like zero world building on the show, like the entirety of Westeros consists of maybe ten key players and the other hundreds upon hundreds of lords and ladies are just chilling in their castles. Great houses go extinct in every other episode, huge power vacuums are created, but it's like no one really cares. Obviously I'm gonna watch the final season and I'm sure I'm going to enjoy every second of it, but my hype levels are close to zero and have been that way basically since Season 5. I used to be very deep into the show and its fandom, and I was obsessing so hard over it around the time Season 3 and 4 came out. Really all I thought about for a long time was Game of Thrones. I'm glad I'm over it, to be honest. Turns out, this can be an incredibly toxic fandom, so really, the less you care, the better. I don't want to be a jerk about it, and I don't want to spread negativity or to make anyone angry.  I'm glad many people still love the show, I totally get why. Even though I'm not into it anymore, it's still a great show in a lot of ways, especially in terms of production value, music, all that stuff. |
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Post by Father of Dragons on Jan 15, 2018 18:44:59 GMT
Don't worry everyone. We all know everything since 5x03 has been a dream and Barristan and Stannis will rule the throne together. Jonerys? Nah. Barristannis is the real ship worth investing in. Trust me. Also as soon as this thread stopped appearing in "Participated" I completely forgot about S8 and GoT altogether |
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Post by meeraoftarth on Jan 15, 2018 19:32:53 GMT
Game of Thrones lost me about three seasons ago. I'm not saying the writing is bad now, because I don't think it is ... per se. But in my eyes, it definitely lacks what made it so good to begin with. Game of Thrones today is a very different show from what it used to be a few years ago. It has in a way become the very thing we were promised it would never be - a very traditional fantasy story about heroes in shining armour fighting one-dimensionally evil bad guys (dead or undead). What it does, it does well, but it's just not why I fell in love with this show. Since I do not find ASoIaF lore to be particularly interesting, the main draw for me have always been the characters. A lot of my favourite characters are dead or have been cut from the show (or both ), and for various reasons, some of the characters that I used to love have lost all their appeal to me. Jon, Dany, Sansa, Bran, to name a few. There are only a few that are still kicking that I still love and care about just as much as I did back in Season 1, a rare few characters who haven't lost what made them compelling to begin with. They are Cersei, Jaime and to a lesser extent Tyrion, and much of that is thanks to the fact that they are played by some of the best actors on the show. I care zero about Jon and Dany at this point, and I'm actively put off by their relationship and especially the way it is portrayed in the show. Ironically, Jon's death somehow made him even more one-dimensionally heroic. As good of a job D&D have done adapting certain parts of the story, others they have gotten so completely and utterly wrong, it makes me die a little bit on the inside everytime I think about it. The way they handled the whole Frey situation for instance. They went about it in the exact opposite way than the books did. Instead of showing the futility of revenge, and how it leads to just more pointless death and suffering, they made it another "epic" Arya moment, for the audience to go "slay gurl". They seriously couldn't have missed the point harder if they had tried, it almost makes me question if they even understand or care about some of the core themes of the source material that they're adapting. Also, nowadays there is like zero world building on the show, like the entirety of Westeros consists of maybe ten key players and the other hundreds upon hundreds of lords and ladies are just chilling in their castles. Great houses go extinct in every other episode, huge power vacuums are created, but it's like no one really cares. Obviously I'm gonna watch the final season and I'm sure I'm going to enjoy every second of it, but my hype levels are close to zero and have been that way basically since Season 5. I used to be very deep into the show and its fandom, and I was obsessing so hard over it around the time Season 3 and 4 came out. Really all I thought about for a long time was Game of Thrones. I'm glad I'm over it, to be honest. Turns out, this can be an incredibly toxic fandom, so really, the less you care, the better. I don't want to be a jerk about it, and I don't want to spread negativity or to make anyone angry. I'm glad many people still love the show, I totally get why. Even though I'm not into it anymore, it's still a great show in a lot of ways, especially in terms of production value, music, all that stuff. I agree with many things you said. I'm still invested in it because I used to love the show, but now having liked it so much it's very depressing to see what it has become, (and the characters in general, very cliche). If season 8 doesn't bring out some fresh, intelligent twists based on asoiaf, or certain romantic stories I have been waiting for years, I don't think I'll like it. |
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Post by DaveyJoe on Apr 20, 2018 23:24:27 GMT
Only thing to look forward to is CLEGANEBOWL. I can't believe how rushed the final season will feel with 6 episodes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 4:30:55 GMT
Only thing to look forward to is CLEGANEBOWL. I can't believe how rushed the final season will feel with 6 episodes. i think we'll be getting close to 6 movie-length episodes (maybe not 2 hours but 70-90 minutes). I don't see any other way of finishing it within the episodes unless it is even more rushed than season 7 |
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 5, 2018 21:35:51 GMT
Some brief snippets of an interview with Emilia: Only spoiler tagged for those who want to go in completely blind, though I wouldn't say there are any spoilers in this because she's very vague and I don't think it's anything we haven't heard before. It's just something to get the conversation started again since this is a GoT board after all! |
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Post by kingeomer on May 6, 2018 12:36:10 GMT
Some brief snippets of an interview with Emilia: Only spoiler tagged for those who want to go in completely blind, though I wouldn't say there are any spoilers in this because she's very vague and I don't think it's anything we haven't heard before. It's just something to get the conversation started again since this is a GoT board after all! I think she and Maisie are spot on with their predictions on how people will take season 8. I think it will be along the lines of what the reactions of the show have been since at least season 5-some love it, some hated what they did. I'll probably be like Emilia's mum-huh??? Even with longer episodes, I do feel like season 8 will be rushed. But at least the story will have an end on TV. Those of us who enjoy the books might not get that. |
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Post by Zadeth on Mar 30, 2019 22:45:36 GMT
I predict people will die.
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Post by kingeomer on Apr 1, 2019 10:58:04 GMT
I predict people will die. I think that's a good prediction to make. I'll go a step further and add, some characters who wore an unbelievable amount of plot armor lose that plot armor this season. |
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Post by Father of Dragons on Apr 9, 2019 23:26:35 GMT
Curious to see if/how Jaime is reunited with Cersei again. He's got to be the one to kill her right? Anybody else doing it would not have anywhere near the same emotional impact, particularly since he's been Team Cersei for 4 seasons longer than in the books.
Also I hope that Melisandre being a hundred year old woman has some kind of relevance. To what? I dunno. I guess there isn't really any reason for that to come up, but it would be kind of a weird(er) scene otherwise.
Also also, I'm not totally sure how they'll drag out the White Walker conflict for 6 episodes. In fact I kinda hope they don't. I'd much rather prefer a human-based conflict to finish this off rather than some super big "good vs evil" ice zombie fight. Maybe there'll be a concurrent battle in King's Landing? I guess the Golden Company have to fight someone if they're being included.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Apr 10, 2019 1:29:38 GMT
I was thinking that if the show continues to roughly follow the Macbeth template for Cersei, Arya makes more sense to kill her.
Now, I don’t want that. Like at all. But just saying.
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Post by kingeomer on Apr 10, 2019 10:51:23 GMT
I was thinking that if the show continues to roughly follow the Macbeth template for Cersei, Arya makes more sense to kill her. Now, I don’t want that. Like at all. But just saying. I expect the show to have Arya wear Jaime's face and kill Cersei. I don't want that but that ability is going to come back into play at some point. |
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Post by Father of Dragons on Apr 13, 2019 17:21:28 GMT
I was thinking that if the show continues to roughly follow the Macbeth template for Cersei, Arya makes more sense to kill her. Now, I don’t want that. Like at all. But just saying. My initial reaction is to kinda dismiss the idea that Arya will be anywhere near Cersei (mainly because pls no) but I'm now kinda wondering if the stuff with Lady Crane in S6 could maybe have been foreshadowing something? Again not sure what, maybe Arya will have the opportunity to kill Cersei and refuse, though that's maybe too much wishful thinking on my part.
I also seem to remember Tywin says to Arya "you remind me of my daughter" in S2, so maybe there is some kind of buildup to Arya and Cersei meeting again.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Apr 13, 2019 17:48:32 GMT
I was thinking that if the show continues to roughly follow the Macbeth template for Cersei, Arya makes more sense to kill her. Now, I don’t want that. Like at all. But just saying. My initial reaction is to kinda dismiss the idea that Arya will be anywhere near Cersei (mainly because pls no) but I'm now kinda wondering if the stuff with Lady Crane in S6 could maybe have been foreshadowing something? Again not sure what, maybe Arya will have the opportunity to kill Cersei and refuse, though that's maybe too much wishful thinking on my part.
I also seem to remember Tywin says to Arya "you remind me of my daughter" in S2, so maybe there is some kind of buildup to Arya and Cersei meeting again.
yeah i'm not trying to see cersei's eyes stabbed out and then her throat slashed in some tarantino shit. assassin arya is fine for what it is, but keep her away from my cersei. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 23:26:38 GMT
I was thinking that if the show continues to roughly follow the Macbeth template for Cersei, Arya makes more sense to kill her. Now, I don’t want that. Like at all. But just saying. i honestly think Cersei is going to be the end of cersei. Upon believing the prophecy she has destroyed her family and it will lead to her end. |
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), and for various reasons, some of the characters that I used to love have lost all their appeal to me. Jon, Dany, Sansa, Bran, to name a few. There are only a few that are still kicking that I still love and care about just as much as I did back in Season 1, a rare few characters who haven't lost what made them compelling to begin with. They are Cersei, Jaime and to a lesser extent Tyrion, and much of that is thanks to the fact that they are played by some of the best actors on the show. I care zero about Jon and Dany at this point, and I'm actively put off by their relationship and especially the way it is portrayed in the show. Ironically, Jon's death somehow made him even more one-dimensionally heroic. 
I'm glad many people still love the show, I totally get why. Even though I'm not into it anymore, it's still a great show in a lot of ways, especially in terms of production value, music, all that stuff. 
