Post Season 7 Discussion (Spoilers)

Seven episodes was a big mistake when there's just as much material as previous seasons - if not more.

Regarding Jon and Dany (Jany? Don?)

This could be the show's version of fAegon, since Jon is aptly named Aegon. Though I don't think Jon will want to take the Throne for himself and I feel it would be complete fanservice if he does, or attempts to. I think they may perhaps marry, though not too sure on that, and they would have the best claim together - Jon's birthright with Dany's army and Dragons to back it up; though I can't see Dany being too happy in this scenario playing second fiddle. 

The other possibility is a division between them, but I don't think there is enough time within the 6 episodes for Jon to find out his parentage and then have this dispute with Dany (and if they do do it, it'll likely be very rushed and badly done). I think he'll either surrender his claim, marry Dany and they'll attempt to claim it together or he will publicly support Dany like Theon for Yara at the Kingsmoot. 

I think his claim is better by virtue of being male through the line of succession, Dany was next in line when Viserys died and now she's bumped back that a new male heir, Jon, has been discover. Though Dany's claim is still rock solid until R+L=J is made pubic, and even then there will be the trouble of proving it. Though maybe Howland Reed will come forward since Meera went home. 

Sansa and the North

If Jon does marry Dany, or surrender his claim for her, I could see one of the conditions being that the North has independence. The only thing is, this would be a slippery slope with, likely, Dorne then seeking independence and others will follow; though if Ellaria somehow sees it through until if and when Cersei dies and the Targaryens take the Throne, perhaps she would campaign for Dorne to remain under Dany's rule. 

I'm not sure if the North would rebel against Jon if he was on the Throne. Perhaps there will be some sort of devolution of powers with each Kingdom having it's own ruler for certain areas but ultimately being loyal to the Crown. 

Yara

I'm not exactly sure what is left to do with her character. I think, because they've kept her alive when they could have easily killed her by now, that she will fight to the death with Euron. Perhaps Theon will be there too and give his life so Yara can defeat him and live. 

Pregnancies 

I don't think Cersei will carry it to term, as Maggy's prophecy mentioned she'd have 3 children (which I am taking to mean being born). 

I think Dany will get pregnant, there has been so much focus upon her being unable to have children recently. I wonder if Viserion dying will have something to do with it? Only death can pay for life. I wonder if this will be TPTWP? 

Eastwatch-by-the-Sea Crew 

I don't hold much hope for these lot considering the enemy sauntering towards them. We have no idea what state Gendry is in, so perhaps he could run for his life. Tormund and Beric being up the wall - perhaps they could run like fuck to the Shadow Tower or something? 

Night's King 

Maybe he is trying to get back to the place where the CotF created him? I'm not sure what purpose that would serve though. That or they just want to kill all of the humans. After all, the CotF made them to defend themselves from men so it's perhaps just a hivemind thing and they have no thoughts of their own. 

Jaime 

I think Brienne will vouch for him. Maybe he will join her in the oath to protect the Starks, pledging himself to Bran after the wrong he did him. 

Prediction roundup!
(Under spoilers because big post)

Father of Dragons:

Great questions...where are Gendry and Ghost?

How far South will the Night's King and friends be by the season premiere?

I also agree that there is not going to be time for the North to pissed off about Jon bending the knee. They might grumble but with the wall down, they have more pressing concerns.

Oh, we'll probably get some cringy scene of Ghost "accepting" Dany like Drogon accepted Jon.

The prophecy was already fucked up since Robert and Cersei had a child together.

that was one Robert's 20. That's my explanation anyway. Cersei hated Bob so much, it's not a stretch of the imagination to think she wouldn't love the baby ("that's no son of mine.") So that is considered Bob's kid.

Whereas the children Cersei had by choice are considered Cersei's children.

Am I making sense? Lol

In any case, I think these are two completely different scenarios. If Cersei has another child with Jaime at this point, it will serously hurt the Maggy's thing and the series continuity as a whole IMO.

I doubt Cersei never cared for the baby. The rest of her emotions and words in her scene with Robert were genuine, why would that be different?

"I felt something for you once, you know."
"I know."
"Even after we lost our first boy. For quite a while actually."

I think TheMadQueen gave probably the best rationalisation; that the baby counts as one of Robert's. (Although it's really obvious the showrunners just forgot since that reasoning is pretty flimsy)


As an aside I watched that scene with the two of them to get the quote and I'm reminded how fucking perfect Mark Addy was and how much I miss Robert. His words about Lyanna are even more tragic now

"I only know she was the one thing I ever wanted. Someone took her away from me, and seven kingdoms couldn't fill the hole she left behind."