7x04 Post-Show Discussion

I think the intention Dany and Drogon was going for to burned most of the Lannisters' carts is that they are trying to take out any siege weapons that they have the chance to use them, and without them the army would have nothing to fight back (like advance weapons).

LOL at Davos trying to hit on "Missandei from Naath" for two episodes. What happened to him, doesn't he have a wife?

Book Davos apparently loves his wife (per his thoughts) but is t entirely faithful to her (he thinks about sleeping with other women in various ports). I don't recall if she is ever brought up in the show. He only had one son in the show too right?

This is my favourite shot of the battle


And will now be my avatar.

Also this is incredible, how much work when into making this epsiode

Very good call back.  Something should be said about that.  Um, mainly from DAVOS.


@igrewupinkl, that gif just gave me the motivation to vacuum.  It is a really good shot!

Now this is 'interesting' ...

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/arya-scene-game-of-thrones_us_598b529ce4b0a66b8bb0a846

time.com/4895235/game-of-thrones-lady-stoneheart-arya-brienne-scene/

www.ndtv.com/offbeat/you-probably-missed-this-game-of-thrones-moment-its-freaking-fans-out-1735948


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Flesh and blood, book LSH? Out of the question. As if their undead mother was walking around the castle and no-one noticed. But a Cat Stark lookalike passing the centre of the frame at the precise moment Arya mentions Brienne's oath to her mother? While experience errs on the side of calling "bullshit!" still seems a bit of a push to be coincidence. On which assumption, the deliberate placement of an extra on cue at that crucial moment of dialogue to evoke a likeness of Cat holds out a few possibilities:

1) A brief homage to the character/easter-egg for readers?
2) A final LSH troll/piss-take?
3) Hundred to one, the ghost of Winterfell and LSH plots could somehow be combined briefly in S8 to pay homage to her undead incarnation, whilst at the same time bypassing most of the plotting problems with zombie Cat (the opportunity for which has long since passed.)
4) Weirdly timed extra no-one planned for, and none of the above.

Some are speculating on Reddit it's a pale maid extra with long hair whose face proper can be seen as Arya looks around the courtyard earlier on her arrival. In which case, why mysteriously obscure her face here? My own guess is they chose someone from their existing extras who roughly approximated MF and had her do the walkthrough at that moment - either as a nod to LSH or simply to shit with readers. Plotwise, it's beyond unlikely at this point it'll form the basis of anything supernatural related to the Catelyn character.

Sure, I'd love to see Fairley return briefly in S8 looking over Arya's shoulder, just out of shot, for a bit of Woman in Black style spine-tingling: 



She's behiiiiiind you ...


Would be an awesomely Gothic, scary moment. 

Ain't ever gonna happen, but in way ~ for old time's sake ~ I'm kinda glad we got one last conspiracy theory nonetheless.

Yeah, fair point. Though to clarify: I'm aware of all that stuff, and then some - pretty much since the beginning, on this site, and others before it (fake Fairley interviews, deleted actor tweets, even the shadowy figure in the season 5 finale trailer that was supposed to be Lady S overlooking Moat Cailin, and turned out to be Dany in Essos. )

It isn't Michelle Fairley, and Stoneheart as we know her IS cut. Those are facts, confirmed by GRRM.

The only intriguing question for me here is whether they specifically used a lookalike extra to evoke her. 

So yes, you're right: it's an extra doing what an extra does. But the reason why it's garnered social media traction is that it's also the spitting image of the profile of Catelyn Stark at the exact moment she's mentioned when it could have been a boy, a girl, a stableboy, a farrier, an ironmonger, a soldier, a guy walking a dog.

That doesn't strike you as remotely ... deliberate?

Watching E4 again, I find a transition that is very awkward. We have Dany talking to Jon about what to do. “But if you use them to melt castles and burn cities, you're not different.” Sure what’s implied hangs in the air. Still the jump is from Theon saying ‘Where is she”, to the plains of The Reach?... Ok I don’t mind a Jean-Luc Godard jump cut, don’t need to see the Dothraki crossing the narrow sea. But with no preamble at all this does not seem even like a Christopher Nolan time bend, seems more like a continuity error! They had an extra 10 min. to use.*
This kind of discontinuity has happened before but didn't bug me then.
(*Actually HBO has no fixed time slots.)

I don't really see how this is a continuity problem. Armies move as fast as they need to off-screen to drive the plot (hence why the army of the dead is moving at a glacial pace while the Lannister army and Greyjoy fleet hops continents in an episode). But this is actually one of the less problematic transportation of an army scenes. It's only a short ferry from Dragonstone to the mainland (the biggest issue here is how much of a fleet Dany had left) and it isn't then only a short journey towards the Blackwater Rush. It's clear the Lannister forces are closer to Kings Landing than the Reach - otherwise the gold would not have reached the city. And even if not, I don't see how cutting from the Jon/Theon scene to the Reach is a continuity error. 

Don't know if it is specifically stated, but easy enough to infer they are close to King's Landing (see above). 

The problem of seemingly no-one posting scouts continues of course   Dany apparently crossed the Crownlands (which ought to be pro-Lannister) or possibly the Stormlands (which ought to be...who knows at this point? Anarchists?) and attacked Jamie's army with no-one noticing the, until the Dothraki did their screechy thing as they crested the hill. So much for Jaime berating the Freys for not posting scouts last season and letting an army approach unchallenged...at least that was an allied army  
Its actually becoming quite bothersome how inept anyone on this show is at posting scouts or taking any sort of precautions at all