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Post by mau on Apr 18, 2016 0:11:33 GMT
I suppose it would also work with Blackfish. It would. But he will be in the Riverrun in E8, so there is no time for him to have any connection with BwB. I don't know what to think.
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Post by mau on Apr 18, 2016 0:09:05 GMT
But if Thoros is organizing RW 2.0 without LSH why would they cut Beric?
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Post by mau on Apr 18, 2016 0:03:48 GMT
So Gendry is the only loose end left?
(If that person in the trailer is Benjen.)
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Post by mau on Apr 17, 2016 23:56:19 GMT
Yes. But someone has to organize that. So Thoros alone or LSH. I don't think that Thoros alone has a strong enough motive. I think the self-proclaimed outlaws (meaning the BwB) and protectors of the smallfolk have plenty of reason to orchestrate a RW 2.0 even without Stoneheart, so that argument doesn't convince me. Yes. It is possible. I don't like LSH so I will be happy with Thoros alone. But why would Thoros want Jaime?
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Post by mau on Apr 17, 2016 23:54:58 GMT
Yes. But someone has to organize that. So Thoros alone or LSH. I don't think that Thoros alone has a strong enough motive. We don't know how different BWB is going to be in the show this season. They may be somehow merged with the other outlaw band that there were castings for, but honestly I don't think it's either of them on the show. Based on the photos and filming leaks I'd say it really looks like something's organized by the Lannisters via Jaime but maybe I'm way off on that. Lannisters will be there at the very least but I'm not sure on which side. Jaime will organize RW 2. o? That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Post by mau on Apr 17, 2016 23:53:28 GMT
I agree. Well, it is possible to have only Thoros and BwB organize the massacre, without LSH, but I don't know. If they're going to do the exact scene from the books, LS included, it could end episode 8 or something like that. And we'd need to hear about the hangings and such starting episode 5 or 6 so it doesn't come out of the blue. I think that is also possible that we will see Cat's corpse through Nymeria. I think Sansa and Brienne will discuss Cat and Sansa will repeat her story from S4E1 about how Cat died and what happened to her body to remind the audience.
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Post by mau on Apr 17, 2016 23:51:01 GMT
But she can't organize the massacre. No but she will hopefully be in the right place at the right time when it goes down if the acting troupe theory holds true. Yes. But someone has to organize that. So Thoros alone or LSH. I don't think that Thoros alone has a strong enough motive.
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Post by mau on Apr 17, 2016 23:43:42 GMT
If she has wolf dreams while blind it's possible that directs her to the Riverlands specifically. But the Walder motivation could be it too. He is still in her abridged list after all. I know it rankles the LSH fans but of all the choices we have left, Arya makes the most sense. She was there when it happened and she should bring the justice if LSH does not. But she can't organize the massacre.
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Post by mau on Apr 17, 2016 23:42:17 GMT
I'm convinced now that Brienne is captured by Thoros near the finale. Javi has said Jaime travels somewhere else after Riverrun (probably the Twins), but Brienne doesn't go with him. So.... Brienne needs something to do and this is probably it. I agree. Well, it is possible to have only Thoros and BwB organize the massacre, without LSH, but I don't know.
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Post by mau on Apr 17, 2016 23:39:48 GMT
And my scenario won't take that much time. Only 1 (long) scene where we see BF and Brienne with LSH in E9. Then 1 short scene in E10 when Brienne and Jaime meet again. One scene with Walder Frey and their celebration. One scene with Jaime and LSH. And one scene for massacre. I think 15-20 minutes of screen time in E10 will be enough. Every other scenario I heard for RW 2.0 seems too complicated or convoluted for the show. It's a shame that Arya probably won't have a role in RW 2.0. But I think she, Brienne or BF will kill LSH. I guess I could see her hyped to get her chance to remove Walder from her list and then the BwB-initiated massacre happens before she gets a chance, which basically mirrors her RW experience but with a better result. Yes, I think this can happen. But this doesn't contradict my prediction. Arya will be there and there is a scenario in which she can be there for everything to make sense, but she won't be the one to organize everything. If we put together your idea for Arya and my idea for BwB and Brienne it sill makes sense for the show and it would be too complicated and convoluted and it wouldn't take too much time.
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Post by mau on Apr 17, 2016 23:03:29 GMT
And my scenario won't take that much time.
Only 1 (long) scene where we see BF and Brienne with LSH in E9.
Then 1 short scene in E10 when Brienne and Jaime meet again. One scene with Walder Frey and their celebration. One scene with Jaime and LSH. And one scene for massacre. I think 15-20 minutes of screen time in E10 will be enough.
Every other scenario I heard for RW 2.0 seems too complicated or convoluted for the show.
It's a shame that Arya probably won't have a role in RW 2.0. But I think she, Brienne or BF will kill LSH.
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Post by mau on Apr 17, 2016 22:55:56 GMT
Well, I now think LSH will appear in S6. Blackfish will be in Riverrun in E7 and E8 so he can't have any connection to the BwB. I think there is no time for BF to form any kind of alliance with BwB. I think Brienne and BF will escape together in E8, but they will be captured by BwB and LSH. Jaime and the Freys will celebrate their victory at the Twins. Brienne will be forced to bring Jaime to LSH. Then they will use Jaime to infiltrate the Twins and then we will have RW 2.0. I think something similar will happen in the books. D&D never cut a character and left everything exactly the same. What is the point of cutting her then?
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Post by mau on Apr 17, 2016 13:07:50 GMT
My predictions for S7. It will be long. So I believe that by the end of S6 we will have 6 storylines left. 1. the North 2. KL 3. Euron/Sam 4. The Riverlands (Arya/Jaime/Brienne) 5. Dany/Tyrion/Theon/Dorne 6. Bran I expect that after the kingsmoot, Euron will atack the Tyrells, just like in the books. I don't know if Kevan will be dead by that time, but I expect Cersei and the Lannister to stay passive. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" strategy. And besides, the Lannister will be busy with FM and the Riverlands. So Tyrells will turn to the Martells and Dany. We have reports about Olenna's scene with Doran and Varys in Dorne this season. I think they will form an alliance. Dany/Tyrion + Yara/Theon + Dorne + Tyrells. On the other hand, I think the opposite alliance will be formed around Cersei. I think Cersei and Euron will have some kind of a deal. Euron is fighting against the Tyrells, there is no reason for Cersei not to support him. And when Dany comes, she will be their mutual enemy. Another ally Cersei will find is HS. I know this maybe doesn't makes sense at the moment, but if HS survives this season, I think he and Cersei will be allies against Dany. Dany is coming with the Red God supporters. I'm sure that the HS will be against her. And the last ally for Cersei is Randyll Tarly. Maybe that won't happen in the books, but why would the show introduce him in S6? To be another general in Dany's army? I think Cersei will promise him the Highgarden and the Reach if he helps her depose the Tyrells. The show can easily write Randyll in S6 as ambitious man, who just think that Mace is a fool and doesn't deserve his service. So I believe we will have this in S7, part 1. Cersei/Jaime/HS/Euron/Tarlys vs Dany/Dorne/Tyrells/Yara and Theon And I don't know what will happen with Tommen and Margaery. They can both die in S6, or they can die in S7, part1.
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Post by mau on Apr 16, 2016 13:04:26 GMT
Or maybe this story just naturaly ends with 73 episodes and that has nothing to do with how tired they are.
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Post by mau on Apr 16, 2016 9:07:17 GMT
SNOWBOWL SPOILERS BELOW He survives Snowbowl, so unless he dies in the finale, it seems pretty safe to say that he survives the season. I just think there is a distinct pattern with this show: an outsized presence in the promotional phase often means a character is leaving us. Liam jas been EVERYWHERE in the build-up to season 6. It feels like his last hurrah. And when that happened before?
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Post by mau on Apr 15, 2016 19:49:15 GMT
I think Arya will just meet him in the Riverlands next season. And if the Freys are really killed this season, as we expect, I believe Arya and Gendry will go to the North.
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Post by mau on Apr 15, 2016 19:34:05 GMT
Would she even have the power to legitimise someone from a different kingdom? Well, I believe Jon will be king in the end, so I think he will have a power.
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Post by mau on Apr 15, 2016 19:22:59 GMT
He would need to be legitimised for that first. Who would even do it? Dany? Surely your Queen Sansa after Arya tells her all about him during their girls night when they are reunited I thought the samme.
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Post by mau on Apr 15, 2016 19:06:44 GMT
To rule as Baratheon.
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Post by mau on Apr 15, 2016 19:00:16 GMT
Isaac said he would be playing Kingmaker. I can't remember where I read it. If that is the case then a vision of the death of King Aerys would make sense. Bran (and the viewer) getting bits of information from Roberts Rebellion and the lead up to it and what implications it is still having on the realm. That would explain why there is the ToJ flashback. Just a guess on my part. Maybe the vision also includes the last Baratheon. Also known as the one who is still rowing... I mean come on, Gendry needs to show up. This has been a joke for few years now. I think S7.
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