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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 21:56:26 GMT
@envie I agree with you, but they also have to be writing S7 right now and for that to work they have to know how many episodes they are gonna do... at least roughly. Also, they always know more than they can say in interviews. It's just the nature of these things. Except HBO went through the trouble of making an official statement that basically nothing is official which is funny don't you think? I think people are assuming I'm here arguing for more seasons or longer episodes or whatever. I'm not. I'm trying to keep people grounded that this split seasons and episode numbers isn't set yet - there's no official word on that from HBO and until they do say so, it doesn't make a lot of sense to try and figure out how much of a story there is left to tell. I'm quite sure they are writing season 7 right now but they're not going to tell us a final date or amount now or probably even next season until they are writing the very end. Sometimes I think speculation here ends up turning to 'written in stone' out of consensus and spoiler analysis. Keeping it real is all. (because I have been known to jump on spoiler hype that turned out to be sun shades and... stuff)
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Post by mandzipop on Apr 15, 2016 22:04:44 GMT
I think 20 episodes might be too much, but I'm not sure if 13 is enough. It might feel too rushed.
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Post by boojam on Apr 15, 2016 22:21:38 GMT
@envie I agree with you, but they also have to be writing S7 right now and for that to work they have to know how many episodes they are gonna do... at least roughly. Also, they always know more than they can say in interviews. It's just the nature of these things. Except HBO went through the trouble of making an official statement that basically nothing is official which is funny don't you think? It's bug fucking nuts!
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 16, 2016 2:50:44 GMT
i think it should be more than 13 because 73 is too odd of a number and that irrationally annoys me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 4:48:34 GMT
i think it should be more than 13 because 73 is too odd of a number and that irrationally annoys me. I think 76 would be a nice number to finish with so that'd be 16 more episodes. At least allows for some breathing room after The War for the Dawn.
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Post by boojam on Apr 16, 2016 9:25:57 GMT
This is an interesting article from the Atlantic. Benioff says one thing and Lombardo sounds 'diplomatic'. My take on this is that Benioff and Weiss have about had-it with writing and producing the show. By that I don't mean they have become disenchanted with it. They know the rest-of-story but don't feel inclined it embellish and 'garden' as George Martin would. Various thoughts occur , they are exhausted as producers, but what if they stayed in creative control , even writing the show with out the humongous burden of producing it? I wonder how exhausted Cogman is? Got to be enough seasoned crew now to take up the task of producing. One thing about shortened seasons, does it mean 7 one hour episodes or 7 1.5 hour episodes? (Actually , according to Benioff, episodes are supposed to average 54 min. (why, I don't know), but thats for a 10 ep season.) Somewhere , up the line, is a big clash, I figure the forces of Westeros (and Essos?) vs the Others. George has hinted at this by wanting a movie, "Those Dragons get awfully big". From what Benioff has said , apparently, GoT lands on the big Ragnarök of ASoIaF , with or without some surviving participants from the novels story. As I have mentioned before this may come down to a business decision. HBO may need cover their ass if Westworld is a floperroo. Seasons beyond from the Atlantic
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Post by kingeomer on Apr 16, 2016 12:36:24 GMT
boojam, the link takes me back to this thread (could be my computer acting funny though)... One of the things that your comment reminded me is either at the Comic Con for season 3 or season 4, Benioff made an off handed remark about how tired he is and he was dreading working on season 5. I agree that they don't have become disenchanted with it but having to oversee such a large production, even with the many underlings who probably handle most of the day to day problems and logistics, has to be tiring and I could see them being and wanting to be done...however many episodes that does turn out to be. Has Cogman been made a producer yet?
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Post by mau on Apr 16, 2016 13:04:26 GMT
Or maybe this story just naturaly ends with 73 episodes and that has nothing to do with how tired they are.
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Post by kingeomer on Apr 16, 2016 13:11:42 GMT
Or maybe this story just naturaly ends with 73 episodes and that has nothing to do with how tired they are. I think people are bringing up the tired factor because D&D have said it several times how tiring doing the show is. Not that they don't enjoy it..but it's a year around job for them. I don't necessarily think this is determining factor on when they end the show and I don't think anyone else on this thread thinks that either. They'll do as many episodes as they think they need to do to wrap up the story in a way that they find satisfactory.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 13:18:58 GMT
My OCD just wants 7/7 episodes instead of 7/6. But apart from that, I'm fine with it. EDIT: In fact, I think it would be cool if they did a 7th season with 7A and 7B, each 7 episodes long. That would be very symbolic.
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Post by boojam on Apr 16, 2016 13:34:44 GMT
boojam , the link takes me back to this thread (could be my computer acting funny though)... One of the things that your comment reminded me is either at the Comic Con for season 3 or season 4, Benioff made an off handed remark about how tired he is and he was dreading working on season 5. I agree that they don't have become disenchanted with it but having to oversee such a large production, even with the many underlings who probably handle most of the day to day problems and logistics, has to be tiring and I could see them being and wanting to be done...however many episodes that does turn out to be. Has Cogman been made a producer yet? Try this: The AtlanticCogman got an Emmy , I guess that was his? I guess he is a ranking producer. Opps, I don't know why it's doing that: Trying to link this: www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/04/game-of-thrones-take-your-time/478446/Has anyone seen that still before?
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Post by King Tommen on Apr 16, 2016 14:42:06 GMT
In every interview they've done pretty much from the start, D&D have had this episode number in their heads as the amount of time needed to tell this story. So I don't think you can use the "too tired, just want to end it" excuse. They've been consistent.
George has told some time ago how things end, they've already made the cuts to what they feel is unnecessary for the show in their minds and have mapped out how long it's going to take to get there.
When you live and breathe this show for as long as they have, I'm sure (just as with Martin) they have that final path pretty much laid out even if the episodes aren't explicitly broken down yet. I'm sure David and Dan have discussed how they're ending things ad nauseum with each other for quite a while now.
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Post by boojam on Apr 16, 2016 16:59:04 GMT
In every interview they've done pretty much from the start, D&D have had this episode number in their heads as the amount of time needed to tell this story. So I don't think you can use the "too tired, just want to end it" excuse. They've been consistent. George has told some time ago how things end, they've already made the cuts to what they feel is unnecessary for the show in their minds and have mapped out how long it's going to take to get there. When you live and breathe this show for as long as they have, I'm sure (just as with Martin) they have that final path pretty much laid out even if the episodes aren't explicitly broken down yet. I'm sure David and Dan have discussed how they're ending things ad nauseum with each other for quite a while now. I think they are truthful that they get over fatigued by writing and producing the show , however I think they tolerate it well enough. They knew the whole-story ,from George, and they had Feast in hand but not Dance , I get the impression that there are not that many major plot milestones between Storm of Swords and whatever-the-hell Climax there is in Dream. The chambers are about filled and ready to fire, but George is 'gardening', and I don' t think D&D are enchanted with looping on the cartridges and would like to drive for the payoff with more economy that GRRM. I can see some more set up , but seems possible that S7 done as a 12 episode season could have been a wrap. I am thinking HBO needs a buffer to find another golden goose and some kind of season 8 was proposed. I wonder what D&D's fee is or will be for that? Actually some of the actors may get some enhanced take-home for signing for an 8. Contracts may be something we will hear about soon.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 16, 2016 22:39:10 GMT
My OCD just wants 7/7 episodes instead of 7/6. But apart from that, I'm fine with it. EDIT: In fact, I think it would be cool if they did a 7th season with 7A and 7B, each 7 episodes long. That would be very symbolic. yep, 74, 75, or 76, just as long as it's not 73. (5s are better odd numbers than 3s, obviously.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 23:14:34 GMT
My OCD just wants 7/7 episodes instead of 7/6. But apart from that, I'm fine with it. EDIT: In fact, I think it would be cool if they did a 7th season with 7A and 7B, each 7 episodes long. That would be very symbolic. yep, 74, 75, or 76, just as long as it's not 73. (5s are better odd numbers than 3s, obviously.) My OCD understands your OCD.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 23:28:32 GMT
My OCD just wants 7/7 episodes instead of 7/6. But apart from that, I'm fine with it. EDIT: In fact, I think it would be cool if they did a 7th season with 7A and 7B, each 7 episodes long. That would be very symbolic. They're still in the middle of writing it so maybe they'll settle on 7 or 8 episodes each.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 0:25:20 GMT
yep, 74, 75, or 76, just as long as it's not 73. (5s are better odd numbers than 3s, obviously.) My OCD understands your OCD. I didn't realize there are so many other people with it here.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Apr 17, 2016 2:12:16 GMT
In every interview they've done pretty much from the start, D&D have had this episode number in their heads as the amount of time needed to tell this story. So I don't think you can use the "too tired, just want to end it" excuse. They've been consistent. George has told some time ago how things end, they've already made the cuts to what they feel is unnecessary for the show in their minds and have mapped out how long it's going to take to get there. When you live and breathe this show for as long as they have, I'm sure (just as with Martin) they have that final path pretty much laid out even if the episodes aren't explicitly broken down yet. I'm sure David and Dan have discussed how they're ending things ad nauseum with each other for quite a while now. People who are annoyed by this (still not official, of course) decision, often forget one important thing: they know how the story ends. We don't. They know exactly how much story left and if they think there's only 13 episodes worth of story after this season, I trust them. If the wall falls this season, as most of us predict, what's the point of having the White Walkers south of the wall for 20 episodes? It would be tiresome and boring. I'm Ok with 13 episodes... Well, I would prefer 14 (7+7 for Season 7 sounds better! 7 books, 7 gods, 7 kingdoms...).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 15:12:04 GMT
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Post by lordcarson on Apr 20, 2016 15:32:46 GMT
roose pls it says they reiterated their desire for that it is not confirmed pls do not spread falsities
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