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Post by Nezzer on Apr 15, 2016 0:55:10 GMT
(@witchy , we already came up with a name for it. QUEENBOWL. I hope it's real. ) Another bowl would be great, but after this announcement I think SNOWBOWL is going to be our last battle between humans in the show
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Post by mau on Apr 15, 2016 0:56:05 GMT
So what does this mean for TWOW and ADOS? GRRM said they'll be as big as ADWD, if not bigger. Are they going to end up with a bunch of filler and shorter than expected or are D&D going to completely ignore what happens in them and go straight to the end? I think he doesn't' really know what happens in ADOS except some big events and ending. And I don't think we will ever get ADOS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 1:01:03 GMT
(@witchy , we already came up with a name for it. QUEENBOWL. I hope it's real. ) Another bowl would be great, but after this announcement I think SNOWBOWL is going to be our last battle between humans in the show Fine with me. The war against the Others is what we've all been waiting for for 5 books/seasons. Well, at least I have been. As much as I love the GoT side of the story, I like the fantasy side better.
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 15, 2016 1:01:25 GMT
So what does this mean for TWOW and ADOS? GRRM said they'll be as big as ADWD, if not bigger. Are they going to end up with a bunch of filler and shorter than expected or are D&D going to completely ignore what happens in them and go straight to the end? I think he doesn't' really know what happens in ADOS except some big events and ending. And I don't think we will ever get ADOS. Yeah, ADOS is never gonna happen
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 1:02:01 GMT
Well, Cersei still needs to blow up KL, bowl or no bowl.
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Post by King Tommen on Apr 15, 2016 1:08:28 GMT
George is suffering from the common issue that authors have with their long-running series in that they can't stop world building and turning the corner towards their endgame. TWoW is probably going to be ridiculously bloated and he's already said we're going to see Highgarden, Casterly Rock, Volantis, Griffin's Roost and probably a bunch of other places none of the characters are at the end of ADwD. So he's not even close to getting the endgame started. D&D probably understand this (knowing where George wants all his stories to end) and they can be more judicious in just cutting out the superfluous new settings/characters and start everyone on their journeys back.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Apr 15, 2016 1:17:03 GMT
George is suffering from the common issue that authors have with their long-running series in that they can't stop world building and turning the corner towards their endgame. TWoW is probably going to be ridiculously bloated and he's already said we're going to see Highgarden, Casterly Rock, Volantis, Griffin's Roost and probably a bunch of other places none of the characters are at the end of ADwD. So he's not even close to getting the endgame started. D&D probably understand this (knowing where George wants all his stories to end) and they can be more judicious in just cutting out the superfluous new settings/characters and start everyone on their journeys back. It's about time and budget too. GRRM can fill page after page with filler and world building, but HBO can't afford to drag and bloat things with a limited amount of episodes every Season. Besides, the money. They won't spend money constructing huge sets to show places that won't have anything to do with the story. It's all for the good, IMHO. I'm Ok with a tightly paced, well told ending.
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Post by mattpeto on Apr 15, 2016 1:36:01 GMT
I was kind of scratching my head trying to think of new story material to deal with after this season.
Finish this adaptation and get new people and GRRM to produce a new story in the same universe. It's a win for all of us.
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 15, 2016 1:38:33 GMT
I was kind of scratching my head trying to think of new story material to deal with after this season. Finish this adaptation and get new people and GRRM to produce a new story in the same universe. It's a win for all of us. I hope they don't let the hype get cold and make a D&E series right after GoT is over.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 1:42:00 GMT
I was kind of scratching my head trying to think of new story material to deal with after this season. Finish this adaptation and get new people and GRRM to produce a new story in the same universe. It's a win for all of us. I hope they don't let the hype get cold and make a D&E series right after GoT is over. Considering how every big franchise is getting spinoffs, prequels, extended trilogies and whatnot, I think such a hit as GoT will definitely have a successor set in the same universe. But someone else will do it. I think D&D will be done with it. And they deserve it.
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Post by mattpeto on Apr 15, 2016 1:42:43 GMT
GRRM has a great relationship with HBO. I think that only way we don't get post-ASOIAF content is something happens to George
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Post by day dreamer on Apr 15, 2016 1:53:27 GMT
I'm not crazy about shortened seasons. Breaking Bad made it work, but Boardwalk Empire was seriously lacking in quality. Why not just do a full 10 episodes?
I mean, I get why they do this, more Emmys, but it doesn't make for great viewing.
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Post by King Tommen on Apr 15, 2016 1:57:46 GMT
I'm not crazy about shortened seasons. Breaking Bad made it work, but Boardwalk Empire was seriously lacking in quality. Why not just do a full 10 episodes? I mean, I get why they do this, more Emmys, but it doesn't make for great viewing. They explained this. They've gotten to the point where they can't do even the 10 hours in the allotted production cycle because things have gotten more complicated and involved and it's less a TV show and more an extended movie. If they want to do the story justice and go out with a bang so they need to produce less content in the given production cycle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 2:09:15 GMT
Not to be a wet blanket on the speculation or anything, but I think it's important for everyone to remember this key statement from HBO as outlined in the Variety interview:
Nothing is set in stone yet guys.
But the fact Benioff and Weiss have mentioned this magic number of hours and split seasons seems to indicate that's what they want at least. But everything could change by Season 7.
I have to wonder if again, they're not waiting around for GRRM to finish Winds of Winter to decide?
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Post by King Tommen on Apr 15, 2016 2:23:12 GMT
According to Hibbard, D&D have had this number of episodes in mind since the start and haven't wavered on this as recently as a few weeks ago. And HBO has acknowledged this and stated that D&D have final say. The only way this would change is if HBO somehow were able to change their minds, something that appears highly unlikely.
I could see that maybe they could move off 73 hours to 74 (to make 2 7 episode seasons) or maybe 75 if they wanted a 2 hour finale but that is probably the max we could hope for.
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Post by TheKittenGuard on Apr 15, 2016 3:53:01 GMT
According to Hibbard, D&D have had this number of episodes in mind since the start and haven't wavered on this as recently as a few weeks ago. And HBO has acknowledged this and stated that D&D have final say. The only way this would change is if HBO somehow were able to change their minds, something that appears highly unlikely. I could see that maybe they could move off 73 hours to 74 (to make 2 7 episode seasons) or maybe 75 if they wanted a 2 hour finale but that is probably the max we could hope for. www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/game-of-thrones-season-5_n_7026030.html
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 15, 2016 5:06:47 GMT
According to Hibbard, D&D have had this number of episodes in mind since the start and haven't wavered on this as recently as a few weeks ago. And HBO has acknowledged this and stated that D&D have final say. The only way this would change is if HBO somehow were able to change their minds, something that appears highly unlikely. I could see that maybe they could move off 73 hours to 74 (to make 2 7 episode seasons) or maybe 75 if they wanted a 2 hour finale but that is probably the max we could hope for. www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/game-of-thrones-season-5_n_7026030.htmlThey said it can't be 100 hours, not 90 or 80?
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2016 5:29:23 GMT
Bad idea, HBO. But it's in line with the way that network is currently run. I cannot imagine them finishing the story in 13 episodes after season 6 unless it's gonna be on par with season 1 writing and that's not gonna happen
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 15, 2016 8:06:44 GMT
prob for the best so they don't have to wing it too much once they're 100% past the books and have only grrm's general plans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 8:10:51 GMT
It makes me sad that the show will end.
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