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Post by Belle on Mar 13, 2016 4:38:59 GMT
I'm just curious to see the general consensus on the board for this theory. I added in the names for the theories that I've seen (There are even some people who think super meta and think Cersei herself is the YMBQ!!)
Personally I think the YMBQ is Dany.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 11:35:42 GMT
i think it is Margery or Sansa. i'm going to put my vote on Sansa, i think her paranoia about getting replaced started when Sansa got betrothed to Joffrey.
Because Dany hasn't had much of an impact on Cersei's life, and by the time they intersect (if they ever do) i doubt Dany will be able to take 'all that she holds dear' as i think it would be gone by then.
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Post by osentalka on Mar 13, 2016 12:58:19 GMT
From Cersei's point of view it's almost any young noble woman, she genuinely doesn't know so is paranoid about all of them.
Who does the prophecy actually mean, probably Daenarys. I'm not sure Cersei actually has to be alive for her to take all she holds dear, that could be just the Crown.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 13:36:52 GMT
Cersei thought it would be Sansa. Now she thinks it's Margaery. She has attempted to ruin both their lives because she believed it was them. I believe it will actually be Dany, and all her conniving won't save her.
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Post by kingeomer on Mar 13, 2016 13:45:11 GMT
Cersei thought it would be Sansa. Now she thinks it's Margaery. She has attempted to ruin both their lives because she believed it was them. I believe it will actually be Dany, and all her conniving won't save her. Considering that Cersei has not given Dany much thought at all and she was pretty convinced it was Sansa and then Margaery, which means it's not them. I don't see Sansa ever returning to KL. And show wise (not sure about the books), if Margaery gets out...I'm sure she'll continue to be a thorn in Cersei's side. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 14:57:54 GMT
Maybe this is a cop-out, but does it have to be someone specific? I've always seen this prophecy as a self-fulfilling one. The YMBQ is whoever Cersei chooses. First it was Sansa, then it was Margaery. It can change again. It doesn't matter, because it's not the actual YMBQ that is destroying Cersei, but Cersei herself is doing that with her crazy behaviour and paranoia.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 15:38:33 GMT
Maybe this is a cop-out, but does it have to be someone specific? I've always seen this prophecy as a self-fulfilling one. The YMBQ is whoever Cersei chooses. First it was Sansa, then it was Margaery. It can change again. It doesn't matter, because it's not the actual YMBQ that is destroying Cersei, but Cersei herself is doing that with her crazy behaviour and paranoia. This was my impression as well. The fear of being replaced by the YMBQ is her Sword of Damocles which fuels her actions. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 16:28:29 GMT
You guys are fucking brilliant.
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Post by Belle on Mar 13, 2016 16:37:10 GMT
Maybe this is a cop-out, but does it have to be someone specific? I've always seen this prophecy as a self-fulfilling one. The YMBQ is whoever Cersei chooses. First it was Sansa, then it was Margaery. It can change again. It doesn't matter, because it's not the actual YMBQ that is destroying Cersei, but Cersei herself is doing that with her crazy behaviour and paranoia. so basically Cersei herself is the YMBQ ? i've always loved that theory, but I feel like its too meta. imo of one of Cersei's self destructive tendencies is that she doesn't see the big picture and long term threats, so thats why I think its Dany. But at the same time I don't expect there to be a big showdown between Dany and Cersei or anything like that |
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 13, 2016 23:24:49 GMT
Brienne, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 23:30:12 GMT
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Post by Belle on Mar 13, 2016 23:30:32 GMT
care to explain why you think so? |
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 13, 2016 23:40:55 GMT
care to explain why you think so? I'm just being facetious. |
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Post by Belle on Mar 13, 2016 23:44:12 GMT
care to explain why you think so? I'm just being facetious. lol there are some people who legit think its possible so i though I'd ask you. but then again most of these people are jaime/brienne shippers so i think they're biased in that way |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 19:18:21 GMT
The one true Queen of Westeros, of course.
Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, the first of her name, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Queen of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm, the Unburnt, Mother of Dragons, Breaker of Chains, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea.
And don't you forget it!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 17:45:59 GMT
Maybe this is a cop-out, but does it have to be someone specific? I've always seen this prophecy as a self-fulfilling one. The YMBQ is whoever Cersei chooses. First it was Sansa, then it was Margaery. It can change again. It doesn't matter, because it's not the actual YMBQ that is destroying Cersei, but Cersei herself is doing that with her crazy behaviour and paranoia. That version is very popular but IMO doesn't work for several reasons. However Cersei's paranoia is basically making whoever she is suspicious of the YMBQ which is why it is, nevertheless, a self-fulfilling thing. So I guess what I am trying to say is I fully agree that Cersei is destroying herself, but she is doing it by targeting her replacement as queen ( Margaery ) not by herself being the YMBQ. I think it is Marge, just as Cersei suspects, because Cersei made it so. If not Marge then Sansa. Noone else has had anything whatsoever to do with her downward spiral and significant personal losses, which have already happened. I think it makes no sense to not include the loss of Joffrey in an account of losing "everything she holds dear". Only Sansa and Marge had anything to do with the loss of Joffrey. |
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