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Post by Madeleine on Jan 24, 2016 14:41:05 GMT
1: Daenerys gives birth to her dragons
2. The three horns, whitewalkers approach, Sam looks on
3. Daenerys is declared Mhysa / Mother, approaches the crowd
4. Arya goes on board a ship to Braavos
5. For The Watch- Olly and the Brothers stab Jon Snow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 15:02:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 15:13:47 GMT
1 5 2 4 3 But season endings are really not this show's forte. This is what I would have preferred: Season 1: ok, this one is pretty much perfect. I loved it. It's an iconic scene. So I wouldn't change it. Season 2: the ending is ok... I remember I really liked it when I first watched it, but the S3 follow up is meh, so it kind of makes the scene redundant. I would keep it if the S3 aftermath of this scene had been better. Season 3: Ugh, awful scene. The ending should have been Bran going beyond the Wall and meeting Coldhands or something similar with Bran. Season 4: The ending is ok if one only looks at the show. But of course the LSH reveal would have been the right ending. They should have gone with that. Season 5: This one I like and I wouldn't change it. Maybe I would have made the scene a bit longer, but that's it.  |
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Post by Admin on Jan 24, 2016 15:18:09 GMT
1 5 2 4 3 But season endings are really not this show's forte. This is what I would have preferred: Season 1: ok, this one is pretty much perfect. I loved it. It's an iconic scene. So I wouldn't change it. Season 2: the ending is ok... I remember I really liked it when I first watched it, but the S3 follow up is meh, so it kind of makes the scene redundant. I would keep it if the S3 aftermath of this scene had been better. Season 3: Ugh, awful scene. The ending should have been Bran going beyond the Wall and meeting Coldhands or something similar with Bran. Season 4: The ending is ok if one only looks at the show. But of course the LSH reveal would have been the right ending. They should have gone with that. Season 5: This one I like and I wouldn't change it. Maybe I would have made the scene a bit longer, but that's it. Season 1 ending is perfect but yeah, even with what is going on in 2nd season ending it just didn't feel like 'holy shit i want this show back now!'. 3+4 just felt wrong for season's endings for me the ending of the finale should be the strongest, most shocking or emotional or well done ending of any episode of the season. 5th was fine because it at least ended with cliffhanger to make the audience excited but that particular cliffhanger was so depressing for the people who only watch the show |
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Post by Basil on Jan 24, 2016 15:32:51 GMT
Season 1: Perfect scene.
Season 2: Sadly there was almost no payoff in Season 3, but the scene itself was pretty amazing.
Season 3: I didn't like the Mhysa scene, but I didn't actively hate it either, it was just kinda ... meh.
Season 5: FTW was a disappointment to me, it felt soulless and empty.
Season 4: My hatred for that scene is irrational, I know that. It's not a bad scene at all, but I was fully expecting LSH and when I realized that she wasn't coming, something in me broke and I developed a deep-rooted disdain for this entire episode and that ending scene.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 15:41:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 15:46:37 GMT
Regardless if you hate the "crowd surfing" Mysha ending I still think it's a million times better than the terrible Arya on a boat ending. At least Mysha had a beautiful score, and was an emotionally impactful scene. If they had kept her on her horse like the book I'm sure many would rank it among their favorite scenes of the series.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 15:55:41 GMT
Regardless if you hate the "crowd surfing" Mysha ending I still think it's a million times better than the terrible Arya on a boat ending. At least Mysha had a beautiful score, and was an emotionally impactful scene. If they had kept her on her horse like the book I'm sure many would rank it among their favorite scenes of the series. That's not the problem at all. It's just not a good ending scene, crowd surfing or no crowd surfing. Dany already had her big scene in 3x04 and it's anticlimatic to use a scene as season ending that doesn't even come close to a scene that was used in the fourth episode. If somehow it had been possible to switch the two scenes, it would have been a million times better (but of course that is impossible, because Dany needed her army first). The other thing is it's the episode after the RW. It felt completely off and cheesy to end the RW season on a scene like Mhysa. The perfect ending would have been something Stark related. |
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Post by Madeleine on Jan 24, 2016 16:07:59 GMT
Regardless if you hate the "crowd surfing" Mysha ending I still think it's a million times better than the terrible Arya on a boat ending. At least Mysha had a beautiful score, and was an emotionally impactful scene. If they had kept her on her horse like the book I'm sure many would rank it among their favorite scenes of the series. That's not the problem at all. It's just not a good ending scene, crowd surfing or no crowd surfing. Dany already had her big scene in 3x04 and it's anticlimactic to use a scene as season ending that doesn't even come close to a scene that was used in the fourth episode. If somehow it had been possible to switch the two scenes, it would have been a million times better (but of course that is impossible, because Dany needed her army first). The other thing is it's the episode after the RW. It felt completely off and cheesy to end the RW season on a scene like Mhysa. The perfect ending would have been something Stark related. I like your idea of Bran meeting Coldhands.... imagine Bran, Jojen, Meera and Hodor, having heavy snow drizzling across their faces, having just crossed the wall, meeting with a figure on an elk. Ending with either Summer howling, Coldhands saying something, or Bran & co following them. It would be a chilling ending. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 16:28:09 GMT
Regardless if you hate the "crowd surfing" Mysha ending I still think it's a million times better than the terrible Arya on a boat ending. At least Mysha had a beautiful score, and was an emotionally impactful scene. If they had kept her on her horse like the book I'm sure many would rank it among their favorite scenes of the series. That's not the problem at all. It's just not a good ending scene, crowd surfing or no crowd surfing. Dany already had her big scene in 3x04 and it's anticlimatic to use a scene as season ending that doesn't even come close to a scene that was used in the fourth episode. If somehow it had been possible to switch the two scenes, it would have been a million times better (but of course that is impossible, because Dany needed her army first). The other thing is it's the episode after the RW. It felt completely off and cheesy to end the RW season on a scene like Mhysa. The perfect ending would have been something Stark related. It was completely necessary for an uplifting ending though. After the RW people needed something to cheer for. And there was nothing Stark related that they could use. Also, I don't think freeing thousands of slaves is in any way "anticlimatic." Bran meeting a throwaway character like Coldhands certainly would have been though, imo.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 16:55:22 GMT
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1's ending is still one of my favorite scenes from the entire series and an iconic moment for Dany.
5's ending wasn't bad, but it was fucking depressing. I would have liked to see Jon call out for Ghost.
2's ending was good at the time, but S3 didn't really open with much payoff so it does downgrade the scene a bit.
3's ending, even though it was the episode after the RW, I still thought it was an uplifting scene like @nictarion said. I understand that people would have liked something Stark related, but considering that Mhysa is probably the most beautiful score in the series, I think that kind of cancels out how cheesy the crowd surfing might be.
4's ending was ok, again somewhat uplifting because Arya is going on an adventure to Braavos, but I was expecting something more after that.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Jan 24, 2016 17:11:20 GMT
1: Daenerys gives birth to her dragons 2. The three horns, whitewalkers approach, Sam looks on 3. Daenerys is declared Mhysa / Mother, approaches the crowd 4. Arya goes on board a ship to Braavos 5. For The Watch- Olly and the Brothers stab Jon Snow. I'd rank them like this: 1 2 5 4 3Yeah, not a fan of the Mhysa ending, even though the score is beautiful. 1- Season 1: Daenerys giving birth to her dragons is one of my favorite scenes ever on the show (maybe even the favorite, depending on which day you ask). Absolutely perfect. Plus, the whole "Fire and Blood" episode was amazing, up there in what I call my "holy quintet" of episodes ("Baelor", "Blackwater", "The Rains of Castamere", "Hardhome" and this one). 2- Season 5: For The Watch was good. It was depressing, of course, but it was meant to be depressing. Overall, I dind't like this finale as much as Season 1 and Season 4 finale, but it was a strong one and one of the best episodes of the season. 3- Season 2: The three horns and the White Walkers marching scene was good. It was a nice cliffhanger. Sadly, the payoff was really poor, but back at the time when I first saw it was pretty cool. 4- Season 4: I really like this episode. Sure, probably I'm in minority here, but it was a stellar episode all around for me, packed with climaxes and emotional moments. Probably in my top 10. But... The final scene was pretty "meh" and anticlimatic, and I certainly was hoping to see LSH, so I was disappointed when the credits rolled. Sure, if you see it now without the expectation of LSH the scene might improve, but I still find it quite underwhelming. 5- Season 3: Other than the fantastic music score, I can't stand the Mhysa scene. It feels redundant, empty, without any emotional punch. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 17:17:45 GMT
That's not the problem at all. It's just not a good ending scene, crowd surfing or no crowd surfing. Dany already had her big scene in 3x04 and it's anticlimatic to use a scene as season ending that doesn't even come close to a scene that was used in the fourth episode. If somehow it had been possible to switch the two scenes, it would have been a million times better (but of course that is impossible, because Dany needed her army first). The other thing is it's the episode after the RW. It felt completely off and cheesy to end the RW season on a scene like Mhysa. The perfect ending would have been something Stark related. It was completely necessary for an uplifting ending though. After the RW people needed something to cheer for. And there was nothing Stark related that they could use. Also, I don't think freeing thousands of slaves is in any way "anticlimatic." Bran meeting a throwaway character like Coldhands certainly would have been though, imo. I disagree with both. This is not a typical drama show and the RW is a highly unusual and bold twist. Putting something uplifting after it is more irritating than helpful. There should be room for grief. Another, even more irritating example is how they followed the Shireen burning with a cheering crowd in S5. It felt completely off to me. It was not uplifting in the slightest. Instead they should have shown a montage of the Stark kids grieving, perhaps with a bit of wiggle room for hope. Bran telling the story of the rat cook and then going beyond The Wall would have been better, because it is connected to the season, thematically. Also, they could have done Coldhand's reveal in a different way. Bran and his group could have been saved by him (from a WW attack). Thus the ending would have contained some suspense. The Dany scene is anticlimatic because Dracarys was the better and bigger scene, but by putting Mhysa in that season ending position, the show suggests that Mhysa is supposed to be bigger than Dracarys, which it absolutely wasn't. To me Mhysa felt like too much sunlight and noise on a hangover day. The hangover being the RW. It was way too bright and cheery. The tone was off and inappropriate. This is all just IMHO of course. |
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Post by Admin on Jan 24, 2016 17:22:03 GMT
It was completely necessary for an uplifting ending though. After the RW people needed something to cheer for. And there was nothing Stark related that they could use. Also, I don't think freeing thousands of slaves is in any way "anticlimatic." Bran meeting a throwaway character like Coldhands certainly would have been though, imo. I disagree with both. This is not a typical drama show and the RW is a highly unusual and bold twist. Putting something uplifting after it is more irritating than helpful. There should be room for grief. Another, even more irritating example is how they followed the Shireen burning with a cheering crowd in S5. It felt completely off to me. It was not uplifting in the slightest. Instead they should have shown a montage of the Stark kids grieving, perhaps with a bit of wiggle room for hope. Bran telling the story of the rat cook and then going beyond The Wall would have been better, because it is connected to the season, thematically. Also, they could have done Coldhand's reveal in a different way. Bran and his group could have been saved by him (from a WW attack). Thus the ending would have contained some suspense. The Dany scene is anticlimatic because Dracarys was the better and bigger scene, but by putting Mhysa in that season ending position, the show suggests that Mhysa is supposed to be bigger than Dracarys, which it absolutely wasn't. To me Mhysa felt like too much sunlight and noise on a hangover day. The hangover being the RW. It was way too bright and cheery. The tone was off and inappropriate. This is all just IMHO of course. In my opinion season 3 should have ended with Robb with GreyWind's head sewed on, sitting on a 'throne' as Dark Wings, Dark Words played in the end. But that would take balls. Still even Mhysa sucks less than that anticlimactic, nothing of an ending for season 4. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 17:27:51 GMT
I disagree with both. This is not a typical drama show and the RW is a highly unusual and bold twist. Putting something uplifting after it is more irritating than helpful. There should be room for grief. Another, even more irritating example is how they followed the Shireen burning with a cheering crowd in S5. It felt completely off to me. It was not uplifting in the slightest. Instead they should have shown a montage of the Stark kids grieving, perhaps with a bit of wiggle room for hope. Bran telling the story of the rat cook and then going beyond The Wall would have been better, because it is connected to the season, thematically. Also, they could have done Coldhand's reveal in a different way. Bran and his group could have been saved by him (from a WW attack). Thus the ending would have contained some suspense. The Dany scene is anticlimatic because Dracarys was the better and bigger scene, but by putting Mhysa in that season ending position, the show suggests that Mhysa is supposed to be bigger than Dracarys, which it absolutely wasn't. To me Mhysa felt like too much sunlight and noise on a hangover day. The hangover being the RW. It was way too bright and cheery. The tone was off and inappropriate. This is all just IMHO of course. In my opinion season 3 should have ended with Robb with GreyWind's head sewed on, sitting on a 'throne' as Dark Wings, Dark Words played in the end. But that would take balls. Still even Mhysa sucks less than that anticlimactic, nothing of an ending for season 4. That would have absolutely taken balls but I would have preferred it over Mhysa a million times over. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 17:34:17 GMT
Season 4's ending was awful. I'm not even a LSH fan and I was pissed. Hell, anything would have been better than Arya on a boat.
I just wonder if anything will top season 1's final scene for me. It will have to be something magnificent. Maybe even the final scene of the series. I loved a lot of things about season 1 (especially Ned's storyline), but that final scene is what made me read the books. I was blown away.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 17:37:49 GMT
Well, the Season 4 ending is my second least favourite ending. I didn't like it either. But as Basil said, the scene on itself was not bad if one hadn't expected something big (LSH). What makes that scene bad is the omission of Stoneheart. Tyrion killing Tywin and Arya leaving behind Westeros would have made a fine ending if I hadn't expected Stoneheart. |
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Post by Admin on Jan 24, 2016 17:40:26 GMT
Season 4's ending was awful. I'm not even a LSH fan and I was pissed. Hell, anything would have been better than Arya on a boat. I just wonder if anything will top season 1's final scene for me. It will have to be something magnificent. Maybe even the final scene of the series. I loved a lot of things about season 1 (especially Ned's storyline), but that final scene is what made me read the books. I was blown away. For me one of the big things about a good ending is how it connects to other stuff in the series - season 1 and 2 endings had huge events in them, for the entire series, and then it's just such a free fall - Mhysa connects to fuck all, really, Dany gains more power? OK but we saw it happen several times before and with better execution. Arya leaves? So what? That Jon ending at least had something of importance going on but that FtW scene and the inclusion of Olly was...not the best. If LSH shows up for me season 1 ending is topped 100x over. Other than that as long as it is something cool and meaningful I'm on board. But last 3 endings weren't executed as well as they could be and s3+4 endings were just a mistake. |
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Post by MarcusAntonius on Jan 24, 2016 17:40:38 GMT
Seaaon one is by far the best and then the rest are all very forgettable except for season 5 because of the is Jon dead or not stuff.
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