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Post by breakfest on Oct 17, 2015 19:44:03 GMT
Not our Irish Thrones! #JeSuisThronesy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 19:45:48 GMT
There could be a wedding right at the end of the season, yes, who knows. But right now everything points to a siege. The tents are Frey and Lannister, like it would be from the books, they're positioned a little way away from the drawbridge. There are lots of wooden structures being built and I don't see what they could be but siege weapons, noone has yet offered a better alternative. Now we have the Blackfish appearing and having a conversation with Jaime, as well as flaming arrows supposedly being fired at the walls. Also Walder Frey was pronounced Lord of Riverrun but the show never said he was occupying it, they left the potential open. What's your guess on Arya and the Acting Troupe? We've speculated they go to Riverlands for a RW 2.0 w/ Walder Frey but that's just guessing / wishful thinking on most of our parts other than the confirmations we've had for scenes in Riverlands / actors there. I don't know which to jump on board and hype ... both a siege and a wedding at Riverrun makes sense and would be cool to bring the story back around. But without knowing what happens in TWOW we really are just randomly guessing. That's not to say the show won't go another direction with it entirely anyways so it's really a crap shoot at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 19:48:14 GMT
Irish Thrones confuses me. We at least know Sapochnik will be at the Riverrun set, but since the Riverlands will most likely appear beforehand, we should try to spot Mylod as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 19:52:58 GMT
Irish Thrones confuses me. We at least know Sapochnik will be at the Riverrun set, but since the Riverlands will most likely appear beforehand, we should try to spot Mylod as well. That's their job description.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Oct 17, 2015 19:55:18 GMT
Confirmation that Peter is there, too. Are all of Team Dany reuniting then? Wait, Blackfish's return + Jaime's AFFC arc confirmed?! HELL TO THE FUCK, YES! Now, just give me LSH and I can die happy. Aw yeah, best s6 spoiler so far.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 19:57:20 GMT
Irish Thrones is love. Irish Thrones is life.
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Post by breakfest on Oct 17, 2015 19:59:27 GMT
There could be a wedding right at the end of the season, yes, who knows. But right now everything points to a siege. The tents are Frey and Lannister, like it would be from the books, they're positioned a little way away from the drawbridge. There are lots of wooden structures being built and I don't see what they could be but siege weapons, noone has yet offered a better alternative. Now we have the Blackfish appearing and having a conversation with Jaime, as well as flaming arrows supposedly being fired at the walls. Also Walder Frey was pronounced Lord of Riverrun but the show never said he was occupying it, they left the potential open. What's your guess on Arya and the Acting Troupe? We've speculated they go to Riverlands for a RW 2.0 w/ Walder Frey but that's just guessing / wishful thinking on most of our parts other than the confirmations we've had for scenes in Riverlands / actors there. I don't know which to jump on board and hype ... both a siege and a wedding at Riverrun makes sense and would be cool to bring the story back around. But without knowing what happens in TWOW we really are just randomly guessing. That's not to say the show won't go another direction with it entirely anyways so it's really a crap shoot at this point. It's a really good question. A wedding would certainly be a plausible end to the season for that arc if they resolve the siege by the end of episode 8. We've had unconfirmed rumours that Arya will head to the Riverlands but that would be episode 8 at the earliest, so I would guess that if we do get a wedding, it will be an episode 10 conclusion. I would love there to be a Red Wedding 2.0, I just want a bit more evidence pointing towards it. One subtle clue is this younger Frey casting, who was said to have a good arc but only for this season, suggesting he's probably going to die since I can't see them bringing back the Freys only to keep them alive and leave them again. If we presume he is with the Frey party outside Riverrun then we could guess that he'll either die in some sort of offensive siege attempt, or maybe in a twist with this wedding. I'm still hoping for it but it seems like there's a lot to squeeze in.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 19:59:55 GMT
Irish Thrones is love. Irish Thrones is life. Found Irish Thrones.
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Post by morgantayler on Oct 17, 2015 19:59:56 GMT
Confirmation that Peter is there, too. Are all of Team Dany reuniting then? Seems like it. And if the reports from a week or so are true, there is supposed to be another main cast member there. I have no idea who it could be because it's seeming like Varys will already be gone by then.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 20:11:19 GMT
Are all of Team Dany reuniting then? Seems like it. And if the reports from a week or so are true, there is supposed to be another main cast member there. I have no idea who it could be because it's seeming like Varys will already be gone by then. Dany, Tyrion, Daario, Jorah, Missandei, and Varys are the only main cast members in Slaver's Bay/Dothraki Sea right now, unless they promoted someone for Season 6.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 20:16:02 GMT
What's your guess on Arya and the Acting Troupe? We've speculated they go to Riverlands for a RW 2.0 w/ Walder Frey but that's just guessing / wishful thinking on most of our parts other than the confirmations we've had for scenes in Riverlands / actors there. I don't know which to jump on board and hype ... both a siege and a wedding at Riverrun makes sense and would be cool to bring the story back around. But without knowing what happens in TWOW we really are just randomly guessing. That's not to say the show won't go another direction with it entirely anyways so it's really a crap shoot at this point. It's a really good question. A wedding would certainly be a plausible end to the season for that arc if they resolve the siege by the end of episode 8. We've had unconfirmed rumours that Arya will head to the Riverlands but that would be episode 8 at the earliest, so I would guess that if we do get a wedding, it will be an episode 10 conclusion. I would love there to be a Red Wedding 2.0, I just want a bit more evidence pointing towards it. One subtle clue is this younger Frey casting, who was said to have a good arc but only for this season, suggesting he's probably going to die since I can't see them bringing back the Freys only to keep them alive and leave them again. If we presume he is with the Frey party outside Riverrun then we could guess that he'll either die in some sort of offensive siege attempt, or maybe in a twist with this wedding. I'm still hoping for it but it seems like there's a lot to squeeze in. Excellent analysis. I love asking all you guys for deeper speculation because you always remind me of things I'd forgotten from earlier in the casting season! I'd forgotten about the younger Frey casting and you're right, it really doesn't make much sense to bring the Frey's back only to have them vanish off the planet again without some "big" event to conclude their story. In the books things are still ongoing but they've left a lot of that out of the show. With Riverrun returning to focus in Season 6, it seems to me they want to wrap that up to set the stage for the aftermath that part of Westeros experienced post war. The show audience has never seen what became of everything after that because they skipped over so much of it. The younger Frey cast is probably going to have some build up through the season as the platform for the rest of the story to ride on and then die in the end with whatever climax (hopefully RW2.0) they bring it to at the finale. I really do think the focus for each story is to bring everything in Westeros to it's lowest common denominator by the end of Season 6. The entire 7 kingdoms should be on the brink of implosion both from within (politically) and without (the Others). Daenerys is going to show up just in time for mass chaos at the end of the season. Should be fun!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 20:18:56 GMT
Seems like it. And if the reports from a week or so are true, there is supposed to be another main cast member there. I have no idea who it could be because it's seeming like Varys will already be gone by then. Dany, Tyrion, Daario, Jorah, Missandei, and Varys are the only main cast members in Slaver's Bay/Dothraki Sea right now, unless they promoted someone for Season 6. You forgot Grey Worm! Because Varys will probably be gone before that time, we're left wondering who the 7th 'main cast member' is other than one of the new people they're casting who gets promoted because they will be moving on to Westeros full time with team Targaryen. Could that be the Priestess Kinvara? The Dothraki Khal's widow? One of the new Khal's just cast?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 20:22:17 GMT
Dany, Tyrion, Daario, Jorah, Missandei, and Varys are the only main cast members in Slaver's Bay/Dothraki Sea right now, unless they promoted someone for Season 6. You forgot Grey Worm! Because Varys will probably be gone before that time, we're left wondering who the 7th 'main cast member' is other than one of the new people they're casting who gets promoted because they will be moving on to Westeros full time with team Targaryen. Could that be the Priestess Kinvara? The Dothraki Khal's widow? One of the new Khal's just cast? Oh I thought main cast members were just the ones whose names appear during the title sequence, but I guess Grey Worm would count since he's part of her entourage. I think Kinvara might be there if she is coming with them to Westeros, because I assume that Khal Jhaqo will be dead by mid-season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 20:30:10 GMT
The younger Frey cast is probably going to have some build up through the season as the platform for the rest of the story to ride on and then die in the end with whatever climax (hopefully RW2.0) they bring it to at the finale. The younger Frey is supposed to be in 3 episodes so that should give us a clue to where the Riverlands storyline is going.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 20:32:21 GMT
You forgot Grey Worm! Because Varys will probably be gone before that time, we're left wondering who the 7th 'main cast member' is other than one of the new people they're casting who gets promoted because they will be moving on to Westeros full time with team Targaryen. Could that be the Priestess Kinvara? The Dothraki Khal's widow? One of the new Khal's just cast? Oh I thought main cast members were just the ones whose names appear during the title sequence, but I guess Grey Worm would count since he's part of her entourage. I think Kinvara might be there if she is coming with them to Westeros, because I assume that Khal Jhaqo will be dead by mid-season. Yeah well, when it comes to the rumors, who knows what they mean by 'main cast' really, and it could even be translated differently as we've already seen from the Spain fan front. I consider Grey Worm part of the 'main cast' because he's been there with Dany for more than one season and has had a lot of speaking parts, even central focus for his own mini-story (romance with Missandei) so I don't know why HBO doesn't consider him that. I think you're right Jhaqo probably dies before the end of the season and doesn't seem like a likely fit to add to Team Targaryen full time. Too much cultural difference in way of thinking between Dothraki and Dany. He is a Khal afterall. Not likely he'll fall in line as one of Dany's followers when he leads his own army. They will be adversaries is my guess. I'm hoping it's the Red Priestess and she becomes Dany's version of Melisandre.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 20:39:52 GMT
Oh I thought main cast members were just the ones whose names appear during the title sequence, but I guess Grey Worm would count since he's part of her entourage. I think Kinvara might be there if she is coming with them to Westeros, because I assume that Khal Jhaqo will be dead by mid-season. Yeah well, when it comes to the rumors, who knows what they mean by 'main cast' really, and it could even be translated differently as we've already seen from the Spain fan front. I consider Grey Worm part of the 'main cast' because he's been there with Dany for more than one season and has had a lot of speaking parts, even central focus for his own mini-story (romance with Missandei) so I don't know why HBO doesn't consider him that. I think you're right Jhaqo probably dies before the end of the season and doesn't seem like a likely fit to add to Team Targaryen full time. Too much cultural difference in way of thinking between Dothraki and Dany. He is a Khal afterall. Not likely he'll fall in line as one of Dany's followers when he leads his own army. They will be adversaries is my guess. I'm hoping it's the Red Priestess and she becomes Dany's version of Melisandre. Yeah I think that's likely too because she's probably going to promote Dany as Azor Ahai. I could see her become an important advisor to Dany if she comes to Westeros with her. It would also show how her powers compare to Melisandre and it's interesting how R'hllor is becoming more important as time goes on in the story. I know the Targaryens followed the Faith of the Seven, but even in the earlier part of Dany's arc, it didn't seem like religion played that much of role besides a few mentions of the Great Stallion.
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Post by cami on Oct 17, 2015 20:54:21 GMT
The article never said "main cast members" but "regular cast members"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 20:58:21 GMT
The article never said "main cast members" but "regular cast members" Well see, we're playing that game 'telephone' here and the message is getting changed as we relay it again... morgantayler said 'main cast members' and we just ran with it. It basically means the same as 'regular' cast anyways since those are the characters who are most prevalent in each scene/season.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Oct 17, 2015 21:04:21 GMT
The article never said "main cast members" but "regular cast members" Well see, we're playing that game 'telephone' here and the message is getting changed as we relay it again... morgantayler said 'main cast members' and we just ran with it. It basically means the same as 'regular' cast anyways since those are the characters who are most prevalent in each scene/season. I think "regular" or "recurring" just means that they featured in the previous season. So Grey Worm definitely counts. Kinvara and the khals wouldn't. But someone like Yezzan (who was spotted in Belfast) would... Anyway, it's quite clearly Team Dany+Tyrion at this point.
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Post by cami on Oct 17, 2015 21:05:44 GMT
The article never said "main cast members" but "regular cast members" Well see, we're playing that game 'telephone' here and the message is getting changed as we relay it again... morgantayler said 'main cast members' and we just ran with it. It basically means the same as 'regular' cast anyways since those are the characters who are most prevalent in each scene/season. Yeah, I think in the article when they say "regular cast members" they mean characters that have importance in the storyline and are not extras, no matter if they are main cast or regular one. We still don't know if they had that information right, but we will find out soon I hope... The main cast - regular cast difference is interesting and sometimes it gives you clues about what is going to happen. I remember last year how with the news of Michiel and Nathalie being promoted as main cast but not Ian I was complete sure that Barristan was a dead man walking. Ian is an old well established actor, if after 4 season you are not promoting him as a main cast member is because you are killing him. I would have bet my life on it, and I was right..
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