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Post by mattpeto on Sept 2, 2015 20:22:35 GMT
Balon should've died 3 seasons ago. Lol I think the idea of adding a 8th season might be triggering all these "return to AFFC" subplots.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 0:36:16 GMT
I think the idea of adding a 8th season might be triggering all these "return to AFFC" subplots. I hope they don't try to stuff everything they left out. Of they intended to leave it out, just leave it. If they try to fit something like Stoneheart, or Euron's masterplan in entirety its just gonna wind up being awful sad to say. Also, I doubt D&D really care too much about the Iron Born, seeing as how they show so little of them. They seem to favour the political/social elements of the series.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Sept 3, 2015 2:45:51 GMT
Balon should've died 3 seasons ago. Maybe they will use some sort of time travel on his corpse or something Maybe tv Balon was dead all through s4-s5 and it's just that no one on the mainland noticed or cared.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 7:11:44 GMT
Maybe they will use some sort of time travel on his corpse or something Maybe tv Balon was dead all through s4-s5 and it's just that no one on the mainland noticed or cared. This'd be hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 7:31:36 GMT
With all the rope bridge filming in NI, I'm pretty sure Balon's still around and we'll get him tumbling down. I imagine they'll give Malahide a scene or two beforehand too, just so the gig isn't TOO thankless.
I really don't see the return to the Iron Islands and the Riverlands some sort of "they're biding their time now that there's eight seasons" kind of deal. They couldn't be put in earlier feasibly because of how many subplots had stacked up. Now there's more room for them. And these are plots that are only really set up in AFFC but will take of in TWOW, so I still see it as us largely moving into TWOW territory in s6 anyhow. They were always going to return to both places though. We knew from David Bradley that he'd been promised that he'd come back for the retribution against the Freys...which we're getting in s6. And we knew from Bryan Cogman's interviews after ep. 406 that Yara would show up again prominently.
And Euron will be a big deal. I'm pretty sure the Boltons and Freys will die in s6, so besides Cersei and LF, he'll be the next "big bad" for s7 and maybe even s8. And he's a pretty cool one at that, particularly with his Faceless Men and Warlock connections which could potentially point to a pretty nasty supernatural group of strange bedfellows. And yes, I do think he'll get a dragon at some point... and if I may be so bold, maybe the actor being younger has to do something with his compatibility with the dragons' mother... Anyhow...He wasn't in AFFC much and wasn't in ADWD at all but in TWOW and maybe even ADOS depending on how long he lasts, I think he'll be very important.
Also Theon returning to the Iron Islands isn't just so there's a familiar viewpoint there. Alfie wasn't at the Kingsmoot shoot according to WOTW's info, so that means he moves in there later. Which is in keeping with what I imagine will happen in TWOW. In ADWD Asha wanted to contest Euron's victory at the Kingsmoot by bringing up Theon's claim. Now that they've reunited in the books I think it's likely she'll try to spirit him back to the Iron Islands when Stannis is defeated by the Boltons and she and him escape. In the show the circumstances of Theon's return to the Iron Islands will have to be different with Yara not in the vicinity of course but still, the timing and the purpose of his return will be the same. I think he'll stay in the North in the show until the Boltons are defeated and then he'll head home, potentially at Sansa or LF's urging.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 7:47:28 GMT
With all the rope bridge filming in NI, I'm pretty sure Balon's still around and we'll get him tumbling down. I imagine they'll give Malahide a scene or two beforehand too, just so the gig isn't TOO thankless. I really don't see the return to the Iron Islands and the Riverlands some sort of "they're biding their time now that there's eight seasons" kind of deal. They couldn't be put in earlier feasibly because of how many subplots had stacked up. Now there's more room for them. And these are plots that are only really set up in AFFC but will take of in TWOW, so I still see it as us largely moving into TWOW territory in s6 anyhow. They were always going to return to both places though. We knew from David Bradley that he'd been promised that he'd come back for the retribution against the Freys...which we're getting in s6. And we knew from Bryan Cogman's interviews after ep. 406 that Yara would show up again prominently. And Euron will be a big deal. I'm pretty sure the Boltons and Freys will die in s6, so besides Cersei and LF, he'll be the next "big bad" for s7 and maybe even s8. And he's a pretty cool one at that, particularly with his Faceless Men and Warlock connections which could potentially point to a pretty nasty supernatural group of strange bedfellows. And yes, I do think he'll get a dragon at some point... and if I may be so bold, maybe the actor being younger has to do something with his compatibility with the dragons' mother... Anyhow...He wasn't in AFFC much and wasn't in ADWD at all but in TWOW and maybe even ADOS depending on how long he lasts, I think he'll be very important. Also Theon returning to the Iron Islands isn't just so there's a familiar viewpoint there. Alfie wasn't at the Kingsmoot shoot according to WOTW's info, so that means he moves in there later. Which is in keeping with what I imagine will happen in TWOW. In ADWD Asha wanted to contest Euron's victory at the Kingsmoot by bringing up Theon's claim. Now that they've reunited in the books I think it's likely she'll try to spirit him back to the Iron Islands when Stannis is defeated by the Boltons and she and him escape. In the show the circumstances of Theon's return to the Iron Islands will have to be different with Yara not in the vicinity of course but still, the timing and the purpose of his return will be the same. I think he'll stay in the North in the show until the Boltons are defeated and then he'll head home, potentially at Sansa or LF's urging. Like Kingsmoot isn't valid because one of the sons is missing? IIRC that happened once. I'd imagine Damphair (now that there's a chance he's in) would like to use Theon to remove Crow's Eye. Do you guys believe in Euron molested Aeron theory? IMO it is very convincing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 7:53:52 GMT
Like Kingsmoot isn't valid because one of the sons is missing? IIRC that happened once.I'd imagine Damphair (now that there's a chance he's in) would like to use Theon to remove Crow's Eye. Do you guys believe in Euron molested Aeron theory? IMO it is very convincing. I remember Asha remembered it as a precedent to use to try and remove Euron. Not that Euron would give a fuck about those laws once he has a dragon and a ton of territory in the 7k mind you...but it's the best she's got at the moment.
And it is possible that Euron did do something like that to Aeron. Though I've also read semi-convincingly that Euron may have warged him instead (a la Bran warging Hodor, I mean) and that's the violation he remembers. This is of course, assuming that other theories about Euron are true. The idea being that his talk about dreams of flying means he was considered by Bloodraven as a candidate last Greenseer before Bran. It's all a bit convoluted of course as ASOIAF theories tend to be. But that's some alternate shit I've read on the subject anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 7:56:56 GMT
Like Kingsmoot isn't valid because one of the sons is missing? IIRC that happened once.I'd imagine Damphair (now that there's a chance he's in) would like to use Theon to remove Crow's Eye. Do you guys believe in Euron molested Aeron theory? IMO it is very convincing. I remember Asha remembered it as a precedent to use to try and remove Euron. Not that Euron would give a fuck about those laws once he has a dragon and a ton of territory in the 7k mind you...but it's the best she's got at the moment.
And it is possible that Euron did do something like that to Aeron. Though I've also read semi-convincingly that Euron may have warged him instead (a la Bran warging Hodor, I mean) and that's the violation he remembers. This is of course, assuming that other theories about Euron are true. The idea being that his talk about dreams of flying means he was considered by Bloodraven as a candidate last Greenseer before Bran. It's all a bit convoluted of course as ASOIAF theories tend to be. But that some alternate shit I've read on the subject.
The Ghost of High Heart, eh? But anyways, I think some of his dialogue to Vic (the flying dreams, dragon egg etc) will be told to Yara instead.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Sept 4, 2015 4:56:43 GMT
I wonder how Theon/YarAsha's reunion is gonna go on the show, seems unlikely he'd just go home on his own after his last experience.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Sept 4, 2015 5:51:35 GMT
With all the rope bridge filming in NI, I'm pretty sure Balon's still around and we'll get him tumbling down. I imagine they'll give Malahide a scene or two beforehand too, just so the gig isn't TOO thankless. I really don't see the return to the Iron Islands and the Riverlands some sort of "they're biding their time now that there's eight seasons" kind of deal. They couldn't be put in earlier feasibly because of how many subplots had stacked up. Now there's more room for them. And these are plots that are only really set up in AFFC but will take of in TWOW, so I still see it as us largely moving into TWOW territory in s6 anyhow. They were always going to return to both places though. We knew from David Bradley that he'd been promised that he'd come back for the retribution against the Freys...which we're getting in s6. And we knew from Bryan Cogman's interviews after ep. 406 that Yara would show up again prominently. And Euron will be a big deal. I'm pretty sure the Boltons and Freys will die in s6, so besides Cersei and LF, he'll be the next "big bad" for s7 and maybe even s8. And he's a pretty cool one at that, particularly with his Faceless Men and Warlock connections which could potentially point to a pretty nasty supernatural group of strange bedfellows. And yes, I do think he'll get a dragon at some point... and if I may be so bold, maybe the actor being younger has to do something with his compatibility with the dragons' mother... Anyhow...He wasn't in AFFC much and wasn't in ADWD at all but in TWOW and maybe even ADOS depending on how long he lasts, I think he'll be very important. Also Theon returning to the Iron Islands isn't just so there's a familiar viewpoint there. Alfie wasn't at the Kingsmoot shoot according to WOTW's info, so that means he moves in there later. Which is in keeping with what I imagine will happen in TWOW. In ADWD Asha wanted to contest Euron's victory at the Kingsmoot by bringing up Theon's claim. Now that they've reunited in the books I think it's likely she'll try to spirit him back to the Iron Islands when Stannis is defeated by the Boltons and she and him escape. In the show the circumstances of Theon's return to the Iron Islands will have to be different with Yara not in the vicinity of course but still, the timing and the purpose of his return will be the same. I think he'll stay in the North in the show until the Boltons are defeated and then he'll head home, potentially at Sansa or LF's urging. I don't know if Theon will physically go to the Iron Islands in the books because by the end of ADWD, all the Ironborn drama is already happening far away (The Reach/Meereen). But I agree that he will continue his story by Yara's side, wherever that may be. I'm excited about Patrick Malahide potentially getting some great scenes with Euron before he kills him. Love his portrayal of Balon to death.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 12:28:06 GMT
I wonder how Theon/YarAsha's reunion is gonna go on the show, seems unlikely he'd just go home on his own after his last experience. I'm wondering about this too. I thought there was a decent chance in the books that Stannis would execute them both, but...yeah.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Sept 5, 2015 2:35:48 GMT
I wonder how Theon/YarAsha's reunion is gonna go on the show, seems unlikely he'd just go home on his own after his last experience. I'm wondering about this too. I thought there was a decent chance in the books that Stannis would execute them both, but...yeah. Looks that way, but I think/hope Theon's safe just because I don't think his fate would be revealed in a sample chapter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 2:45:57 GMT
I'm wondering about this too. I thought there was a decent chance in the books that Stannis would execute them both, but...yeah. Looks that way, but I think/hope Theon's safe just because I don't think his fate would be revealed in a sample chapter. Stannis won't live long enough to execute him, I think. Asha will spirit him away in the midst of the battle.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Sept 5, 2015 3:49:58 GMT
Ok, Mr. Stannis Will Lose to the Boltons, but there has to be something else to stop him executing Theon pre-battle as he's preparing to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 4:31:51 GMT
Ok, Mr. Stannis Will Lose to the Boltons, but there has to be something else to stop him executing Theon pre-battle as he's preparing to do. Well, it seems there's some Bran shenanigans afoot in the Theon TWOW chapter. So I guess something in that vein. Bran intervening somehow.
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Post by afarouk07 on Sept 6, 2015 23:43:30 GMT
Now that Aeron was confirmed for the show, i'm hoping the "Balon was mad, Aeron is madder, Euron is the maddest of them all" line makes it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 23:47:38 GMT
I think the Iron Islands arc will be great this year. Wonder how the Unsullied will feel about it though.
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Post by Nezzer on Sept 6, 2015 23:49:55 GMT
I think the Iron Islands arc will be great this year. Wonder how the Unsullied will feel about it though. I really hope they don't think GoT is trying to copy Vikings and that Euron is GoT's Ragnar.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 23:51:10 GMT
I think the Iron Islands arc will be great this year. Wonder how the Unsullied will feel about it though. I really hope they don't think GoT is trying to copy Vikings and that Euron is GoT's Ragnar. I don't think enough people watch Vikings for that to be a concern.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Sept 7, 2015 4:57:07 GMT
I think the Iron Islands arc will be great this year. Wonder how the Unsullied will feel about it though. I really hope they don't think GoT is trying to copy Vikings and that Euron is GoT's Ragnar. I'd be more worried about how most hate the ironborn and think they're a joke besides, though there is overlap in the Vikings and GoT fandoms. But if the book fandom wasn't excited about getting to know the Greyjoys better, the general audience will be even less so, so Euron better deliver and be awesome in his own right.
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