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Post by ladyfevredream on Apr 13, 2015 16:21:01 GMT
Arya is one of my favorite characters, book and show, and I thought it would be good to have a thread ready for discussion about her story line on the show this year, including book spoilers. I plan to be posting a lot about Arya's story in future, it's just the past few days with all the episode leaks have me distracted. I thought we could use a place for indepth Arya discussion as we go forward, and if anyone wants to start off.....feel free. Maybe we should use spoiler tags for the leaked material, if anyone wants to discuss that soon in this particular thread?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 16:26:22 GMT
This is my most anticipated arc. Looking forward to Sunday's episode.
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Post by morgantayler on Apr 13, 2015 16:29:33 GMT
Really looking forward to her storyline. I haven't watched the leaked eps though  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 16:30:00 GMT
I love Arya but her AFFC/ADWD chapters bored me  I haven't read Mercy, but from the way people speak of it I can't wait until she reaches her TWOW material. |
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Post by ladyfevredream on Apr 13, 2015 16:47:39 GMT
This is my most anticipated arc. Looking forward to Sunday's episode. Really looking forward to her storyline. I haven't watched the leaked eps though I did watch the leaked episodes, but am perfectly willing to keep all advance epis in spoiler tags until viewing is official. I'd think we can discuss any upcoming information that was out in reviews without tags, just those like myself who have already watched should use tags when discussing absolutes found in the episodes aired, fair enough? I really am looking forward to this story and for more than Jaqen, believe it or not, LOL I developed great affection for the city of Braavos, along with all the characters Arya meets along the way. I do think Braavos is the best fleshed out of the Non Westerosi locations, bookwise, and I am looking forward to seeing how the show presents it all. |
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Post by ladyfevredream on Apr 13, 2015 16:52:54 GMT
I love Arya but her AFFC/ADWD chapters bored me I haven't read Mercy, but from the way people speak of it I can't wait until she reaches her TWOW material. During my first read of the series, all the way back to AGOT, I always resented being pulled away from Westeros, PERIOD, LOL But, more and more, and with rereads......I came to really appreciate Braavos itself. I do think it is the most fleshed out of Non Westerosi locales. It took a bit for me to adjust to some of what Arya's absolute direction in the story was, regardless of locale, but that is about the totality of the story that GRRM wrote as well. I did blame Braavos for it, at times, but have come to really love and appreciate the city as seen through Arya's eyes and the people she encounters. I have no issue with those who see it differently, though, just want us all to have the opportunity to discuss it in a somewhat meaningful and entertaining manner.  |
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Post by morgantayler on Apr 13, 2015 17:05:43 GMT
I love Arya but her AFFC/ADWD chapters bored me I haven't read Mercy, but from the way people speak of it I can't wait until she reaches her TWOW material. During my first read of the series, all the way back to AGOT, I always resented being pulled away from Westeros, PERIOD, LOL But, more and more, and with rereads......I came to really appreciate Braavos itself. I do think it is the most fleshed out of Non Westerosi locales. It took a bit for me to adjust to some of what Arya's absolute direction in the story was, regardless of locale, but that is about the totality of the story that GRRM wrote as well. I did blame Braavos for it, at times, but have come to really love and appreciate the city as seen through Arya's eyes and the people she encounters. I have no issue with those who see it differently, though, just want us all to have the opportunity to discuss it in a somewhat meaningful and entertaining manner. It's not a big deal for me, I've read most of the stuff from the screeners. Although, I don't recall reading much about Arya. Do you guys think that they are going be gearing up for her to leave at the end of the season? I'm under the impression that she's going to leave soon in the books and I wouldn't be surprised if she decides to head back by the end of the season. She could probably sneak on Mace's ship when he's heading back to King's Landing. |
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Post by ladyfevredream on Apr 13, 2015 17:24:49 GMT
During my first read of the series, all the way back to AGOT, I always resented being pulled away from Westeros, PERIOD, LOL But, more and more, and with rereads......I came to really appreciate Braavos itself. I do think it is the most fleshed out of Non Westerosi locales. It took a bit for me to adjust to some of what Arya's absolute direction in the story was, regardless of locale, but that is about the totality of the story that GRRM wrote as well. I did blame Braavos for it, at times, but have come to really love and appreciate the city as seen through Arya's eyes and the people she encounters. I have no issue with those who see it differently, though, just want us all to have the opportunity to discuss it in a somewhat meaningful and entertaining manner. It's not a big deal for me, I've read most of the stuff from the screeners. Although, I don't recall reading much about Arya. Do you guys think that they are going be gearing up for her to leave at the end of the season? I'm under the impression that she's going to leave soon in the books and I wouldn't be surprised if she decides to head back by the end of the season. She could probably sneak on Mace's ship when he's heading back to King's Landing. LOL Its like Poor Arya and her story isn't getting much talk, even with the leaks, thanks to the fact that her segment is fairly close to the books and in a restart phase. I've not thought about the idea of her actually being on her way out of Braavos by the end of the season (even just at the end), just that I do suspect her training will be super compacted. I hadn't thought of trying to flee when Mace Tyrell does, but that's a good point. I suppose it will depend on how fast the training is sped up, and where in the epi order the Meryn Trant kill will figure. Also, we have to wonder.......bookwise, will Arya be meeting up with someone else in Braavos or sent further east in regard to other characters. I'm thinking the coming together of characters will continue, book and show, so it may depend on Arya's next book adventure or destination. Of course, it also depends on whether D&D are throwing her future book story out of The Moon Door as well. Perhaps it will seem easier to peg some of this by the end of this season? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 17:26:19 GMT
Well if she doesn't leave at the end of the Season I wonder what her final scene will be?
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Post by ladyfevredream on Apr 13, 2015 17:36:08 GMT
One thought I've just had about Arya's story, especially in trying to predict if her sped up training would be far enough along for a departure at the end of a season, makes me say NO. Let's just say that the Arya material covered in the first four episodes doesn't really advance much....of her education in certain matters of the FM. The first four episodes seemed to have Arya still......just getting a grasp of the daily life in the House and what The Waif and Jaqen may expect of her. Unless a great deal happens in the next 6 episodes......I'm not seeing an Arya that would be considered to be beyond the level she was at by the end of AFFC, not to mention in ADWD and the Mercy chapter. Even with speeded training and circumstance in the remaining episodes, I cant' see her being the total package she was in Mercy. Maybe somewhere between AFFC/ADWD and that is being generous for the show to speed up some of the story and training.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 17:56:00 GMT
What would you rate Arya's arc through 504 Lady?
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Post by day dreamer on Apr 13, 2015 18:13:06 GMT
Arya is one of my favorites. I can't wait to see her next week!
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Post by ladyfevredream on Apr 13, 2015 18:14:58 GMT
OMG!!! I had a very giant, wordy answer for you......and backbuttoned out of it with my bad hand and crappy lap top, I give up, LOL I really don't feel comfortable rating it yet, I want to view it all proper, properly as Arya would say. I hopped, skipped and jumped all over those episodes and now want to watch slowly and in order. I will say Arya did the stashing of Needle beautifully, I was bit irritated at the way the denial and final admittance to the House went down (seemed without reason and manipulative on the show's part), and Arya's story doesn't seem as face paced as others. After four episodes in.....in now feels like FINALLY her training, true training, MIGHT start?
Arya and Needle may be one of the best scenes so far, though.
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Post by goodguygarlan on Apr 13, 2015 18:18:58 GMT
I love Arya but her AFFC/ADWD chapters bored me I haven't read Mercy, but from the way people speak of it I can't wait until she reaches her TWOW material. Same here. Well, I did read Mercy, and while it is by far the best of her Essos chapters so far, it's quite...problematic in other ways |
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Post by morgantayler on Apr 13, 2015 18:49:58 GMT
One thought I've just had about Arya's story, especially in trying to predict if her sped up training would be far enough along for a departure at the end of a season, makes me say NO. Let's just say that the Arya material covered in the first four episodes doesn't really advance much....of her education in certain matters of the FM. The first four episodes seemed to have Arya still......just getting a grasp of the daily life in the House and what The Waif and Jaqen may expect of her. Unless a great deal happens in the next 6 episodes......I'm not seeing an Arya that would be considered to be beyond the level she was at by the end of AFFC, not to mention in ADWD and the Mercy chapter. Even with speeded training and circumstance in the remaining episodes, I cant' see her being the total package she was in Mercy. Maybe somewhere between AFFC/ADWD and that is being generous for the show to speed up some of the story and training. Oh ok. I don't know as much about her storyline this season as others so it was mostly not speculation. And the fact that Mace will be there helped push me to that. Maybe sometime early in S6 then. If they're stickin to 7 seasons, I don't think she'll still be there by the start of S7. |
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Post by ladyfevredream on Apr 13, 2015 19:01:25 GMT
One thought I've just had about Arya's story, especially in trying to predict if her sped up training would be far enough along for a departure at the end of a season, makes me say NO. Let's just say that the Arya material covered in the first four episodes doesn't really advance much....of her education in certain matters of the FM. The first four episodes seemed to have Arya still......just getting a grasp of the daily life in the House and what The Waif and Jaqen may expect of her. Unless a great deal happens in the next 6 episodes......I'm not seeing an Arya that would be considered to be beyond the level she was at by the end of AFFC, not to mention in ADWD and the Mercy chapter. Even with speeded training and circumstance in the remaining episodes, I cant' see her being the total package she was in Mercy. Maybe somewhere between AFFC/ADWD and that is being generous for the show to speed up some of the story and training. Oh ok. I don't know as much about her storyline this season as others so it was mostly not speculation. And the fact that Mace will be there helped push me to that. Maybe sometime early in S6 then. If they're stickin to 7 seasons, I don't think she'll still be there by the start of S7. You could definitely be right, or her departure could be somewhere in the middle of next season, either/or. I'm just saying...if that is the case, they better step on it because Arya's storyline really does seem to be the slowest paced this year, so far. They need to get a move on if Arya is going to learn something beyond sweeping floors, much less show an aptitude for it, LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 0:27:40 GMT
Do you guys think that they are going be gearing up for her to leave at the end of the season? I'm under the impression that she's going to leave soon in the books and I wouldn't be surprised if she decides to head back by the end of the season. She could probably sneak on Mace's ship when he's heading back to King's Landing.Ohhh, interesting! That hadn't occurred to me, but I really like it, hope it happens! |
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Post by greatjon on Apr 18, 2015 11:06:30 GMT
I loved Arya's arc in AFFC/ADWD. They are kinda of a separate novel in themselves, but it was always interesting and intriguing.
In the show. Cersei sends Mace to Braavos in episode 4. I expect he'll get there in episode 7 and Arya will kill Ser Meryn ala Mercy in that episode. Since Episode 7 is called "The Gift" and the Gift of He of Many Faces will play heavily into that episode. She's also going to kill the insurance guy since he was cast. Not sure if that is going to be before or after the Meryn kill.
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I haven't read Mercy, but from the way people speak of it I can't wait until she reaches her TWOW material. 
