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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 5:09:03 GMT
Despite my Cleganebowl disbelief, I think the brothers will fight, just later when KL falls, not at Cersei's trial. I think Jaime and Sandor will go to KL together after hearing word of Cersei's trial and have to face their siblings as Cersei, Qyburn and the pyromancers ready the wildfire to take the city down. I tried to say that in the Cleganebowl thread one but it didn't go over.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 5:09:44 GMT
I tried to say that in the Cleganebowl thread one but it didn't go over. It's okay, you just need to learn how to express yourself more better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 5:10:31 GMT
Despite my Cleganebowl disbelief, I think the brothers will fight, just later when KL falls, not at Cersei's trial. I think Jaime and Sandor will go to KL together after hearing word of Cersei's trial and have to face their siblings as Cersei, Qyburn and the pyromancers ready the wildfire to take the city down. I actually quite like this idea. Makes sense too, as I don't think there's any chance Cersei loses her trial. Her death will almost certainly come at the hands of Jaime.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 5:10:58 GMT
I tried to say that in the Cleganebowl thread one but it didn't go over. It's okay, you just need to learn how to express yourself more better.
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Post by Belle on Jan 29, 2016 5:34:37 GMT
I don't think that Cersei will die in KL. I think it will be Casterly Rock. I read this post on tumblr a few days ago about their being a really dramatic lannister sibling confrontation in Casterly Rock and it makes so much sense to me and I want it so badly.
"Which is part of why I think their stories are building up to an epic confrontation in ADOS, with Tyrion attacking Casterly Rock on dragonback while Cersei commands the defenses (including her zombie knight) against him, and Jaime tries desperately to get them both to stop, continuing his Feastdance theme of shoring up/papering over his family’s atrocities.
It’s an admittedly pessimistic scenario and I wouldn’t be happy to watch it unfold, but what appeals about it to me is that ironically, amidst the horror, Cersei and Tyrion would both have broken past the limits patriarchy has placed on them. Tyrion can look down on everyone now; Cersei has full command of the realm’s mightiest castle. Yet tragically, all they can think to do with this is turn it on each other. And Joanna weeps. I think is going to be the theme of the Lannister family reunion".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 6:20:13 GMT
I don't think that Cersei will die in KL. I think it will be Casterly Rock. I read this post on tumblr a few days ago about their being a really dramatic lannister sibling confrontation in Casterly Rock and it makes so much sense to me and I want it so badly. "Which is part of why I think their stories are building up to an epic confrontation in ADOS, with Tyrion attacking Casterly Rock on dragonback while Cersei commands the defenses (including her zombie knight) against him, and Jaime tries desperately to get them both to stop, continuing his Feastdance theme of shoring up/papering over his family’s atrocities.
It’s an admittedly pessimistic scenario and I wouldn’t be happy to watch it unfold, but what appeals about it to me is that ironically, amidst the horror, Cersei and Tyrion would both have broken past the limits patriarchy has placed on them. Tyrion can look down on everyone now; Cersei has full command of the realm’s mightiest castle. Yet tragically, all they can think to do with this is turn it on each other. And Joanna weeps. I think is going to be the theme of the Lannister family reunion". I think, well i hope the bolded doesnt happen. But i do see cersei retreating to casterly rock with tommen, meeting jaime there. I think jaime is more likely to kill her
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Post by Belle on Jan 29, 2016 6:25:22 GMT
I don't think that Cersei will die in KL. I think it will be Casterly Rock. I read this post on tumblr a few days ago about their being a really dramatic lannister sibling confrontation in Casterly Rock and it makes so much sense to me and I want it so badly. "Which is part of why I think their stories are building up to an epic confrontation in ADOS, with Tyrion attacking Casterly Rock on dragonback while Cersei commands the defenses (including her zombie knight) against him, and Jaime tries desperately to get them both to stop, continuing his Feastdance theme of shoring up/papering over his family’s atrocities.
It’s an admittedly pessimistic scenario and I wouldn’t be happy to watch it unfold, but what appeals about it to me is that ironically, amidst the horror, Cersei and Tyrion would both have broken past the limits patriarchy has placed on them. Tyrion can look down on everyone now; Cersei has full command of the realm’s mightiest castle. Yet tragically, all they can think to do with this is turn it on each other. And Joanna weeps. I think is going to be the theme of the Lannister family reunion". I think, well i hope the bolded doesnt happen. But i do see cersei retreating to casterly rock with tommen, meeting jaime there. I think jaime is more likely to kill her yeah it is kind of cheesy lol, but i do think tyrion will be one of the heads of the dragon so i can i see it happening i agree about cersei being killed by jaime and i think jaime will die there too. makes a lot of sense for the lannister siblings to die in a fucked up way at casterly rock
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 6:37:14 GMT
I don't think that Cersei will die in KL. I think it will be Casterly Rock. I read this post on tumblr a few days ago about their being a really dramatic lannister sibling confrontation in Casterly Rock and it makes so much sense to me and I want it so badly. "Which is part of why I think their stories are building up to an epic confrontation in ADOS, with Tyrion attacking Casterly Rock on dragonback while Cersei commands the defenses (including her zombie knight) against him, and Jaime tries desperately to get them both to stop, continuing his Feastdance theme of shoring up/papering over his family’s atrocities.
It’s an admittedly pessimistic scenario and I wouldn’t be happy to watch it unfold, but what appeals about it to me is that ironically, amidst the horror, Cersei and Tyrion would both have broken past the limits patriarchy has placed on them. Tyrion can look down on everyone now; Cersei has full command of the realm’s mightiest castle. Yet tragically, all they can think to do with this is turn it on each other. And Joanna weeps. I think is going to be the theme of the Lannister family reunion". I think, well i hope the bolded doesnt happen. But i do see cersei retreating to casterly rock with tommen, meeting jaime there. I think jaime is more likely to kill her Cersei HAS to see Tyrion riding up on a dragon! Has to! It will be priceless.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 6:44:53 GMT
I think, well i hope the bolded doesnt happen. But i do see cersei retreating to casterly rock with tommen, meeting jaime there. I think jaime is more likely to kill her Cersei HAS to see Tyrion riding up on a dragon! Has to! It will be priceless. Lol it would be funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 7:31:20 GMT
It would also be cool to see a Dragon in the North during the War for the Dawn, but I imagine that's S8.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Jan 29, 2016 9:15:00 GMT
Despite my Cleganebowl disbelief, I think the brothers will fight, just later when KL falls, not at Cersei's trial. I think Jaime and Sandor will go to KL together after hearing word of Cersei's trial and have to face their siblings as Cersei, Qyburn and the pyromancers ready the wildfire to take the city down. I agree, at least in regards to Cleganebowl not being Cersei's trial (in the books at least). I just don't think it fits, time-wise. A reckoning between the two is *almost certain* to happen though, IMO, and your possible scenario is interesting. Not sure when/where they will clash, but I think if Sandor is to prevail it will involve his overcoming the fear of fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 9:27:10 GMT
Despite my Cleganebowl disbelief, I think the brothers will fight, just later when KL falls, not at Cersei's trial. I think Jaime and Sandor will go to KL together after hearing word of Cersei's trial and have to face their siblings as Cersei, Qyburn and the pyromancers ready the wildfire to take the city down. I agree, at least in regards to Cleganebowl not being Cersei's trial (in the books at least). I just don't think it fits, time-wise. A reckoning between the two is *almost certain* to happen though, IMO, and your possible scenario is interesting. Not sure when/where they will clash, but I think if Sandor is to prevail it will involve his overcoming the fear of fire. Which I think would work particularly well if he was involved in facing the wildfire in KL, because wildfire in KL is why he left in the first place. That would bring him full circle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 9:28:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 9:51:47 GMT
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Post by kingeomer on Jan 29, 2016 12:02:50 GMT
If Cleganebowl happens Sandor better not die. I don't accept that outcome. I will not acknowledge that outcome. I think Sophie, in my opinion, has improved when she gets good material. Her stuff in early season 4 when she is mourning for Robb and Catelyn was good and I've said before, I think she did very well in season 5 despite having a mess of a storyline. No, she is not in the league of Lena but she held her own last year. Lena, by far, is the best actress on the show. Natalie Dormer doesn't have a thing to work with. Her best scene was calling Cersei a bitch. That's it. We'll see what they do with her in season 6. She's an actress who needs good material, she's not one who can overcome bad material or little material. She's no Michelle Fairley in that regard. I've been on the record about how I feel about Emilia and Kit's acting...ugh. Emilia does do well opposite CGI props. But that scene in season 4 where she dismisses Jorah was all sorts of off on her end. Not Iain Glen's end. That scene with Ned in the council with Robert was probably one of my favorites in the whole series. Sean Bean slayed that scene. Unfortunately HBO didn't know that GoT would not be able to have actors compete in the main category (simply not enough screen time). If they placed Sean in supporting actor, I think he wins the Emmy over Peter for season 1.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 12:13:16 GMT
Another controversial opinion: I really don't give a fuck about Cleganebowl. But I still hype it for my raccoon, because I have a feeling he cares about Cleganebowl and I don't want to make him sad. Edit: Although, @daveyjoe didn't hesitate to make me sad when he shaded Sophie yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 12:49:50 GMT
I'm a huge Sandor fan (he's my favorite non-pov & in my top 10), but I've never been to big on Cleganebowl tbh. It could be cool, but I won't be too bothered if it doesn't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 13:07:23 GMT
I don't consider Cleganebowl to be inextricably tied to Cersei's trial. I think that's the most likely place for it to happen, but it's just one of the ways it could go down. In my mind, if you think the two will have a reckoning at some point, and that it will be huge and epic with an audience witnessing, you believe in Cleganebowl.
Of course, I also don't type it in all caps, because I just can't.
The Hound is one of the most interesting characters in the whole damn thing. I can't wait to see him come back.
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Post by Belle on Jan 29, 2016 13:43:19 GMT
Another controversial opinion: I really don't give a fuck about Cleganebowl. But I still hype it for my raccoon, because I have a feeling he cares about Cleganebowl and I don't want to make him sad. Edit: Although, @daveyjoe didn't hesitate to make me sad when he shaded Sophie yesterday. lol imo cleganebowl makes no sense with sandor's character development right now. as well as the fact that zombiemountain isn't really gregor the only way i could see cleganebowl work is if it has something to do with sansa
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 14:03:37 GMT
Another controversial opinion: I really don't give a fuck about Cleganebowl. But I still hype it for my raccoon, because I have a feeling he cares about Cleganebowl and I don't want to make him sad. Edit: Although, @daveyjoe didn't hesitate to make me sad when he shaded Sophie yesterday. lol imo cleganebowl makes no sense with sandor's character development right now. as well as the fact that zombiemountain isn't really gregor the only way i could see cleganebowl work is if it has something to do with sansa I understand the logic of this opinion, but I disagree. Personal development is not a straight line. A few months or a year of studying to be a monk doesn't undo one's childhood trauma. I think any peace that the Hound has found will be blown apart when he hears about FrankenGregor. Now, there is a possibility that he might kill him out of some mix of old rage and new pity for what has become of him.
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