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Post by Admin on May 9, 2015 21:07:31 GMT
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 9, 2015 22:17:54 GMT
That answer he gave is very reminiscent of an answer he gave in Thronecast. It's as if he's got an answer rehearsed in his head that he has to repeat every time. |
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Post by Admin on May 9, 2015 22:22:56 GMT
That answer he gave is very reminiscent of an answer he gave in Thronecast. It's as if he's got an answer rehearsed in his head that he has to repeat every time. It's still more respectful then "haha, an actor wrote us a letter"  |
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 9, 2015 22:25:22 GMT
That answer he gave is very reminiscent of an answer he gave in Thronecast. It's as if he's got an answer rehearsed in his head that he has to repeat every time. It's still more respectful then "haha, an actor wrote us a letter" Okay maybe that came across poorly. I wasn't criticising Ian, I was just pointing out that there are few words he can use to describe the actions and choices of Tweedle-David and Tweedle-Dan |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 22:26:08 GMT
That answer he gave is very reminiscent of an answer he gave in Thronecast. It's as if he's got an answer rehearsed in his head that he has to repeat every time. He will do. Actors and media personalities typically do have stock answers to questions they get asked a lot  |
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Post by Admin on May 9, 2015 22:28:04 GMT
That answer he gave is very reminiscent of an answer he gave in Thronecast. It's as if he's got an answer rehearsed in his head that he has to repeat every time. He will do. Actors and media personalities typically do have stock answers to questions they get asked a lot I kinda hate that. I cringed every time JK Simmons talked of his perfectly adequate children or whatever when winning the award for Whiplash  |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 22:28:38 GMT
Sending that latter was highly unprofessional on Ian's part. I can understand why D&D were pissed.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 22:33:48 GMT
Sending that latter was highly unprofessional on Ian's part. I can understand why D&D were pissed. Well, without knowing the content of the letter I don't know how you could possibly say that. Although I don't think appealing to writers not to kill off your character is unprofessional at all. Writers and actors are all artists, and there's nothing wrong with a bit of collaboration every now and then. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 22:39:37 GMT
Everyone else on the show who died accepted it, thanked the writers for the opportunity and moved on. That's gracious and professional. Second guessing the writers, trying to get them to change their minds after they've already written the whole season? It's unreasonable and unprofessional in my view.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 0:58:48 GMT
Everyone else on the show who died accepted it, thanked the writers for the opportunity and moved on. That's gracious and professional. Second guessing the writers, trying to get them to change their minds after they've already written the whole season? It's unreasonable and unprofessional in my view. We're in new territory this season though. Along with Mance, they've now killed off 2 major characters that are still alive in the books. All the other actors that were killed off at least knew what was coming (if they read the books). I don't blame Ian McElhinney for being pissed. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 1:32:21 GMT
Most of the actors don't read the books though, so I don't really think that applies. And it's alright for him to be pissed, I get it, but he still shouldn't have sent that letter.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 1:39:11 GMT
Everyone else on the show who died accepted it, thanked the writers for the opportunity and moved on. That's gracious and professional. Second guessing the writers, trying to get them to change their minds after they've already written the whole season? It's unreasonable and unprofessional in my view. Not necessarily true - both Jason Momoa and Sean Bean said in interviews they didn't want their parts to end and both have asked to come back (flashbacks that they apparently don't want to do). I don't see how trying to plead the case of the character is out of line honestly. Especially since we the fans do it every day on forums, blogs, news articles and fan sites. I agree with him, it was not a good change to the story. First off, he's a long time book reader so he knew his character's part well so that had to be shocking. Second, they didn't tell him until he got his casting information from the producers and noticed the weeks did not tally up so they didn't even have the courtesy to write him or call him beforehand and let him know. You want to talk about unprofessional, that's not the actor but the writers there IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 2:05:12 GMT
Most of the actors don't read the books though, so I don't really think that applies. And it's alright for him to be pissed, I get it, but he still shouldn't have sent that letter. I disagree. Would you not fight for your job if you were getting let go? Especially if you had reason to believe said job was safe based on some inside knowledge. And plenty of the actors have read the books. Iirc, Emilia Clarke, Kit Harrington, Peter Dinklage, all have, just to name a few. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 2:09:35 GMT
I know he's read the books, so he was likely looking forward to the badass scenes later in the series.
But this would take screen time from Dany, DanyXDaario, GreyWormXMissandei and other pointless shit in Mereen. And this would mean D&D would have less to wank over.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 2:29:25 GMT
Most of the actors don't read the books though, so I don't really think that applies. And it's alright for him to be pissed, I get it, but he still shouldn't have sent that letter. I disagree. Would you not fight for your job if you were getting let go? Especially if you had reason to believe said job was safe based on some inside knowledge. And plenty of the actors have read the books. Iirc, Emilia Clarke, Kit Harrington, Peter Dinklage, all have, just to name a few. Dinklage has not read the books and Kit hasn't read them all. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 2:46:25 GMT
I disagree. Would you not fight for your job if you were getting let go? Especially if you had reason to believe said job was safe based on some inside knowledge. And plenty of the actors have read the books. Iirc, Emilia Clarke, Kit Harrington, Peter Dinklage, all have, just to name a few. Dinklage has not read the books and Kit hasn't read them all. My mistake. I guess Emilia is the only one of the main cast who has. I kind of find it a bit odd the other actors can't be bothered to read them tbh. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 2:48:32 GMT
I know he's read the books, so he was likely looking forward to the badass scenes later in the series. But this would take screen time from Dany, DanyXDaario, GreyWormXMissandei and other pointless shit in Mereen. And this would mean D&D would have less to wank over. Lol at including Dany herself as "pointless shit". The entire Meereen arc is about HER. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 2:57:41 GMT
Dinklage has not read the books and Kit hasn't read them all. My mistake. I guess Emilia is the only one of the main cast who has. I kind of find it a bit odd the other actors can't be bothered to read them tbh. Gwendoline has read them and so has Aidan Gillen. Alfie has read the first 2 I believe as well. Kit has read up to ADwD. Richard Madden had read them too. |
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Post by Admin on May 10, 2015 3:01:39 GMT
Most of the actors don't read the books though, so I don't really think that applies. And it's alright for him to be pissed, I get it, but he still shouldn't have sent that letter. Well if he felt he had the arguments for his character to stay there is nothing wrong in fighting. But D&D making it a public story is distasteful, this kind of stuff should be kept away from public eye |
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Post by boojam on May 10, 2015 8:36:42 GMT
We didn't really know until the last few days who the letter writer was. Yeah McElhinney does not sound contentious about the disagreement. I really wonder if Benioff regrets his comments. Seems, at the Oxford 'panel', that Benioff just started with an observation about an actor questioning their call. I think it Weiss , who had been drinking, right there, kind of goosed it, then Benioff went kind of snide about it. From McElhinney's comments it sounds like the discussion was not acrimonious and he is on good terms with David and Dan. Maybe some one will ask Benioff and Weiss about this sometime? I know McElhinney has read the books and takes an interest in the story, he probably not only reminded Dave and Dan that Selmy has story not only after Daznak's Pit but in Winds of Winter too. I can see that all this may have to be altered now that Tyrion is on the scene and the scale of story is going to be difficult enough next season with god-only-knows what is going on in Winds that has to be crammed into 10 episodes. One puzzle is why in episode 4? Seems narrative-wise more down the road at say episode 7 or 8 , since it probably is part of Dany's motivation for opening the pits. |
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