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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 27, 2016 15:12:02 GMT
omg Pycelle bitch slapped a child I'm crine
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Post by mattpeto on Jun 27, 2016 15:14:45 GMT
Anybody know where the hell @konradsmith has been?
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Post by boojam on Jun 27, 2016 15:15:28 GMT
omg Pycelle bitch slapped a child I'm crine Didn't child gig him like an old frog?
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Post by Enid on Jun 27, 2016 15:18:44 GMT
TBH I don't think the episode actually hinted at Gregor raping Unella, is his fame as a rapist which made our minds jump to the idea he may rape Unella. Which I thought, yes, but not because of anything the episode showed. I want Arya to be written as something else than a revenge/killing machine. Maybe now that there are less characters she will. people think him removing his helmet implied it. Maybe. To me it didn't, I think it was done to finally show the audience his face and to show that Unella won't find any compassion in that dungeon. I'm not saying rape is not an option, I also thought he may rape her, but I felt that because I know that Gregor Clegane is a rapist, not because the episode made an effort to imply she would be raped. If Ramsay had entered that room, for example, I would have thought the same, but had it be Qyburn, I would have felt that, whatever horrors Unella was about to experience, rape wasn't going to be one of them. But different people interpret scenes differently.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 27, 2016 15:18:49 GMT
The line in the script when Cersei sits on the throne was "Cersei Lannister Queen of [...] invites you all to go fuck yourselves."
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Post by boojam on Jun 27, 2016 15:27:21 GMT
It was odd to see Wyman Manderly show up at last ... a continuing character?
Lady Mormont doesn't just put the hammer on them she tears em a new asshole.
Video sometime later.
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Post by Enid on Jun 27, 2016 15:29:19 GMT
Now I wished Jorah hadn't gotten sick, just so he could go back to Westeros to try to replace Lyanna as head of house Mormont. He would be destroyed
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Post by boojam on Jun 27, 2016 15:31:34 GMT
Now I wished Jorah hadn't gotten sick, just so he could go back to Westeros to try to replace Lyanna as head of house Mormont. He would be destroyed I think Jorah, after one conversation , would have said you're the boss!
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Post by kingeomer on Jun 27, 2016 15:35:40 GMT
Now I wished Jorah hadn't gotten sick, just so he could go back to Westeros to try to replace Lyanna as head of house Mormont. He would be destroyed I think Jorah, after one conversation , would have said you're the boss! Jorah:
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Post by Belle on Jun 27, 2016 15:42:49 GMT
u guys i'm probably gonna have nightmares about mountain/unella. should have never thought too much about it smh
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 27, 2016 15:49:52 GMT
I got a little depressed thinking about Selmy not being at Dany's side to see this. (Though I don't think he will be in the books either) but still..
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Post by mattpeto on Jun 27, 2016 15:52:55 GMT
u guys i'm probably gonna have nightmares about mountain/unella. should have never thought too much about it smh I hate all the characters so much now in KL I just need more wildfire there or better yet, 3 dragons. EDIT: Except for Jaime but it's time for him to hate Cersei
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Post by Belle on Jun 27, 2016 15:59:04 GMT
u guys i'm probably gonna have nightmares about mountain/unella. should have never thought too much about it smh I hate all the characters so much now in KL I just need more wildfire there or better yet, 3 dragons. EDIT: Except for Jaime but it's time for him to hate Cersei i think cersei is an incredible character but admittedly i'm not very interested in next season.
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Post by mattpeto on Jun 27, 2016 16:03:52 GMT
I hate all the characters so much now in KL I just need more wildfire there or better yet, 3 dragons. EDIT: Except for Jaime but it's time for him to hate Cersei i think cersei is an incredible character but admittedly i'm not very interested in next season. She is an incredible character and she's much more intelligent in the show, than in the books. But I hate her again.
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Post by starkfan on Jun 27, 2016 16:19:50 GMT
Jaime definetly is going to hate her now. I even think he's going to be the one to kill her.
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Post by atimeforwolves on Jun 27, 2016 17:32:38 GMT
Two more details which I like in ToJ: * the past is written, the ink is dry this time Bran doesn't call his father, but sequence goes on exactly like the first time. Bran should realize at this moment that when he once changes the past, there is no coming back * short focus at Dawn in Lyanna's chamber. There is one imo really cool theory about Dawn, but I won't bet that this sword will return in the show, but hope for that in books
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GreenChili
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Post by GreenChili on Jun 27, 2016 17:34:32 GMT
TBH I don't think the episode actually hinted at Gregor raping Unella, is his fame as a rapist which made our minds jump to the idea he may rape Unella. Which I thought, yes, but not because of anything the episode showed. people think him removing his helmet implied it. For me, the connotation of rape or sexual torture clearly came from the way Cersei talked to Unella and how she touched her before Gregor entered. I also got that feeling because Cersei obviously was determined to make Unella suffer in the most terrible way- and given the faith's position towards purity vs. sexuality, sexual abuse might very well the most horrible way to be tormented for Septa Unella. Gregor taking his helmet off, being the most intimate and "nude" moment we saw of him after his resurrection just added to the general impression I got. As I said in another thread, the way this scene was handled to me was by far the most disgusting and unnecessary way imaginable. I totally understand the motivation for a revenge scene, but this simply was way to much for me.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jun 27, 2016 17:41:15 GMT
I liked the detail that the handmaiden in the Tower of Joy looked Dornish. Worldbuilding yay
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Post by atimeforwolves on Jun 27, 2016 17:59:44 GMT
people think him removing his helmet implied it. For me, the connotation of rape or sexual torture clearly came from the way Cersei talked to Unella and how she touched her before Gregor entered. I also got that feeling because Cersei obviously was determined to make Unella suffer in the most terrible way- and given the faith's position towards purity vs. sexuality, sexual abuse might very well the most horrible way to be tormented for Septa Unella. Gregor taking his helmet off, being the most intimate and "nude" moment we saw of him after his resurrection just added to the general impression I got. As I said in another thread, the way this scene was handled to me was by far the most disgusting and unnecessary way imaginable. I totally understand the motivation for a revenge scene, but this simply was way to much for me. 100% the same as mine thoughts. Shame, shame, shame... But I'm doing pretty well with erasing picture of monstrous zombie preparing to rape a nun from my memory. Mhm, pretty well indeed. Need only one more dose of sedatives
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GreenChili
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Post by GreenChili on Jun 27, 2016 18:46:36 GMT
By the way, I just realized that this seemingly strange spoiler from November released by WotW wasn't so absurd after all:
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