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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 2:51:25 GMT
"A girl is Arya Stark of Winterfell. And I AM GOING HOME."  Why did Jaqen seem so happy about that? Was it just that he really liked Arya? Did he hope for this outcome all along? Was he just looking for someone to get rid of the annoying Waif for him?  |
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Post by Singer of Death on Jun 13, 2016 2:55:47 GMT
"A girl is Arya Stark of Winterfell. And I AM GOING HOME." Why did Jaqen seem so happy about that? Was it just that he really liked Arya? Did he hope for this outcome all along? Was he just looking for someone to get rid of the annoying Waif for him? Seems like Jaqen is please that Arya finally gets to know her own path and who she truly is. |
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Post by boojam on Jun 13, 2016 3:09:39 GMT
Varys vanishes with no particular hoopla happening , passing strange.
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Post by boojam on Jun 13, 2016 3:10:51 GMT
Why did Jaqen seem so happy about that? Was it just that he really liked Arya? Did he hope for this outcome all along? Was he just looking for someone to get rid of the annoying Waif for him? Seems like Jaqen is please that Arya finally gets to know her own path and who she truly is. I think that was the plan all along , except her own path may serve more than just her own purpose. |
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Post by Singer of Death on Jun 13, 2016 3:26:53 GMT
Seems like Jaqen is please that Arya finally gets to know her own path and who she truly is. I think that was the plan all along , except her own path may serve more than just her own purpose. I hope the Faceless Men serve a vital purpose to the plot instead of being fillers for Arya's storyline only. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 3:27:33 GMT
"A girl is Arya Stark of Winterfell. And I AM GOING HOME." Why did Jaqen seem so happy about that? Was it just that he really liked Arya? Did he hope for this outcome all along? Was he just looking for someone to get rid of the annoying Waif for him? I think the Faceless Men respect free will and knowing yourself as much as they do becoming "No One" or at least Jaqen seems to respect Arya for it. Most of us would assume if you cross the Faceless Men you're going to die, but Arya challenged them and won. She gave the face required to the God of Death and she let Jaqen know she was done with it. She's not No One, and so long as she believes it, she cannot be No One and so she owes no debt anymore. At least, that's how I see it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 3:33:38 GMT
I think that was the plan all along , except her own path may serve more than just her own purpose. I hope the Faceless Men serve a vital purpose to the plot instead of being fillers for Arya's storyline only. I really dislike the term 'filler' as the show has so little time for that and has dumped massive amounts of the book plots in order to be as concise as possible. I wish you wouldn't use that casually insulting term. Is her entire story from the time she left Westeros just filler to you? Why write it then? I trust the author has purpose for most of what he writes. He meanders here and there, that's part of the poetry of his work, but as we saw with the Hodor story... some things take many years to come to fruition. Even if the Faceless Men do not come back somewhere in the end story (and I think they will play some part), at the very least Arya's time there has taught her a great deal. How to read people who are lying. How to know when someone is trusting or not. How to spy and be seen or not seen as it suits. And most of all, how to fight efficiently with or without eyes. Those are all enormously valuable skills that will serve little Arya well in surviving in Westeros again. She is at a disadvantage. She's small, a female and has many enemies. Moving quickly, quietly and efficiently is how she will work. She may have 'failed' to become a Faceless Man but I am very certain her training has been the most important purpose of all. |
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Post by Singer of Death on Jun 13, 2016 3:42:36 GMT
I hope the Faceless Men serve a vital purpose to the plot instead of being fillers for Arya's storyline only. I really dislike the term 'filler' as the show has so little time for that and has dumped massive amounts of the book plots in order to be as concise as possible. I wish you wouldn't use that casually insulting term. Is her entire story from the time she left Westeros just filler to you? Why write it then? I trust the author has purpose for most of what he writes. He meanders here and there, that's part of the poetry of his work, but as we saw with the Hodor story... some things take many years to come to fruition. Even if the Faceless Men do not come back somewhere in the end story (and I think they will play some part), at the very least Arya's time there has taught her a great deal. How to read people who are lying. How to know when someone is trusting or not. How to spy and be seen or not seen as it suits. And most of all, how to fight efficiently with or without eyes. Those are all enormously valuable skills that will serve little Arya well in surviving in Westeros again. She is at a disadvantage. She's small, a female and has many enemies. Moving quickly, quietly and efficiently is how she will work. She may have 'failed' to become a Faceless Man but I am very certain her training has been the most important purpose of all. I'm sorry that i offended you.  It's just personally i felt Arya's storyline doesn't contribute much to the overall plot. Just there to develop her character. I mean there wasn't much to her story that may add up to the plot with other characters. I mean heck, i could argue Brienne's storyline has substance than Arya cause at least her actions push some of the plots forward (Sansa, Blackfish, Jaime, etc). Though granted Arya is at Braavos which no characters from other storyline was feature in her storyline (aside from Mace but he's minor). But at least i'm expecting maybe Arya will contribute something to the other character's storyline or Westeros. Like i don't know, Arya bringing the Faceless Men or the Iron Bank to Westeros cause politics or some stuff. Doesn't help that Arya spend most of her time getting beat up and attempting to become the No One with no avail. So yeah, you can tell i'm not a huge fan of Arya and her plot. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 3:57:43 GMT
I really dislike the term 'filler' as the show has so little time for that and has dumped massive amounts of the book plots in order to be as concise as possible. I wish you wouldn't use that casually insulting term. Is her entire story from the time she left Westeros just filler to you? Why write it then? I trust the author has purpose for most of what he writes. He meanders here and there, that's part of the poetry of his work, but as we saw with the Hodor story... some things take many years to come to fruition. Even if the Faceless Men do not come back somewhere in the end story (and I think they will play some part), at the very least Arya's time there has taught her a great deal. How to read people who are lying. How to know when someone is trusting or not. How to spy and be seen or not seen as it suits. And most of all, how to fight efficiently with or without eyes. Those are all enormously valuable skills that will serve little Arya well in surviving in Westeros again. She is at a disadvantage. She's small, a female and has many enemies. Moving quickly, quietly and efficiently is how she will work. She may have 'failed' to become a Faceless Man but I am very certain her training has been the most important purpose of all. I'm sorry that i offended you. It's just personally i felt Arya's storyline doesn't contribute much to the overall plot. Just there to develop her character. I mean there wasn't much to her story that may add up to the plot with other characters. I mean heck, i could argue Brienne's storyline has substance than Arya cause at least her actions push some of the plots forward (Sansa, Blackfish, Jaime, etc). Though granted Arya is at Braavos which no characters from other storyline was feature in her storyline (aside from Mace but he's minor). But at least i'm expecting maybe Arya will contribute something to the other character's storyline or Westeros. Like i don't know, Arya bringing the Faceless Men or the Iron Bank to Westeros cause politics or some stuff. Doesn't help that Arya spend most of her time getting beat up and attempting to become the No One with no avail. So yeah, you can tell i'm not a huge fan of Arya and her plot. You did not offend me nor did I say I was at all. One cannot offend someone else, one can only be offended if one chooses to be (and I didn't), there's a difference.  *edit: Decided to remove most of my argument in favor of saying I respect your opinion but would ask that you give it some time to further develop once Arya gets back to Westeros before passing judgement on the Braavos portion of her story.  |
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