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Post by Admin on May 20, 2015 17:45:39 GMT
Sadly, I don't think we will see them. They did not even bother to recast the Greatjon for season 2 when the actor was not available for that season. It's a bummer, because the Northern Lords all riled up in book 5, ready to attack the Boltons to save "The Ned's Girl" was my favorite part of the book. I was a bit bummed that Maege Mormont and Dacey Mormont were not bigger factors on the show considering that we have Jorah and had the Old Bear. The Northern story line was so interesting because of all the different factions. Not only Stannis vs. Roose. There was so much more to it, but the show failed to use it's full potential. Yep all that is left from Northern rebellion is random old lady, random old guy and a dumbass standing in the tower waiting for the candlelight
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 7:34:19 GMT
The Northern story line was so interesting because of all the different factions. Not only Stannis vs. Roose. There was so much more to it, but the show failed to use it's full potential. Yep all that is left from Northern rebellion is random old lady, random old guy and a dumbass standing in the tower waiting for the candlelight Exactly, where's the fun in that? There's no evidence what so ever that the Northeners even care about the Starks. Roose is having no visual difficulties in controlling them..
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 21, 2015 11:04:59 GMT
IMO, the show had different ideas in the past. The inclusion of this Manderly cameo on the RW shows they had thought of having Wyman on the show... And then, when the time came, they changed their minds, realizing it would be additional cost, or because they didn't think there would be enough time for development. It wouldn't be the first time, would it? The casting of Balon Greyjoy strikes me as if they planned to explore the Greyjoy storyline as it should be. Yet they are pretty much forgotten by now. The BwB was clearly set up for a LSH in the future. Then, they realized it would not work in their series. Namedrops of the Golden Company... The show has let its field pretty wide, and then picked up what it saw as the better choices.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 7:57:07 GMT
IMO, the show had different ideas in the past. The inclusion of this Manderly cameo on the RW shows they had thought of having Wyman on the show... And then, when the time came, they changed their minds, realizing it would be additional cost, or because they didn't think there would be enough time for development. It wouldn't be the first time, would it? The casting of Balon Greyjoy strikes me as if they planned to explore the Greyjoy storyline as it should be. Yet they are pretty much forgotten by now. The BwB was clearly set up for a LSH in the future. Then, they realized it would not work in their series. Namedrops of the Golden Company... The show has let its field pretty wide, and then picked up what it saw as the better choices. You're probably right. It's very annoying when they tease us like this. Plot lines that never made it. It's a shame, Davos hasn't really done anything this season, so sending him off to White Harbor would make sense. If they are sending him to the Last Hearth, I will forgive D&D.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 7:59:45 GMT
While we're talking about Northern lords btw, I'm pretty sure the bearded middle-aged fellows in the background during Sansa and Ramsay's wedding in the Godswood were meant to be some of them rather than just being random Bolton lackeys.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on May 22, 2015 8:25:52 GMT
While we're talking about Northern lords btw, I'm pretty sure the bearded middle-aged fellows in the background during Sansa and Ramsay's wedding in the Godswood were meant to be some of them rather than just being random Bolton lackeys. Maybe, but none brought Freys baked in pies so what does it matter?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 8:41:40 GMT
While we're talking about Northern lords btw, I'm pretty sure the bearded middle-aged fellows in the background during Sansa and Ramsay's wedding in the Godswood were meant to be some of them rather than just being random Bolton lackeys. Probably so, but we didn't even get to know their names and they had no lines. No Frey pies, no party.
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 22, 2015 9:17:28 GMT
IMO, the show had different ideas in the past. The inclusion of this Manderly cameo on the RW shows they had thought of having Wyman on the show... And then, when the time came, they changed their minds, realizing it would be additional cost, or because they didn't think there would be enough time for development. It wouldn't be the first time, would it? The casting of Balon Greyjoy strikes me as if they planned to explore the Greyjoy storyline as it should be. Yet they are pretty much forgotten by now. The BwB was clearly set up for a LSH in the future. Then, they realized it would not work in their series. Namedrops of the Golden Company... The show has let its field pretty wide, and then picked up what it saw as the better choices. Actually I think Mel's visit was more foreshadowing Jon's fate (or maybe even Stannis' )
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Post by King Tommen on May 22, 2015 19:31:14 GMT
It would be hard to bake Frey pies without any Frey's being in the North. Just sayin'...
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Post by King Tommen on May 22, 2015 19:33:28 GMT
If I had to guess, I'd think Blackfish re-enters the story in S6 in connection with the Frey's at Riverrun or the Twins and we either have the BwB involved as well or something that he helps to orchestrate where the Frey's get what's coming to them. Hence the reason why the show has the Freys and Boltons separated this season.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 7:10:46 GMT
If I had to guess, I'd think Blackfish re-enters the story in S6 in connection with the Frey's at Riverrun or the Twins and we either have the BwB involved as well or something that he helps to orchestrate where the Frey's get what's coming to them. Hence the reason why the show has the Freys and Boltons separated this season. Blackfish starts organizing an anti-frey campaign, where he starts killing them and planning to free Edmure? That's a realistic possibility. But we don't have any main characters in the Riverlands at that time?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 21:05:56 GMT
I hadn't weighed in on this conversation yet as I was hoping things might get more detailed once we knew Sansa's fate in Winterfell.
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That's done. And yeah - Sati's remarks about how all we got were some old people and a lot of vague nothingness is what I'm left with. Not much to say really. It's been simplified and the focus put solely on Sansa, Theon and the Boltons with only Brienne and Pod out there hovering on the edges somewhere. All the Northern houses seem completely cut and it's a shame.
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Post by King Tommen on May 23, 2015 22:00:50 GMT
You also have the Frey's cut (from Winterfell anyways) which takes a little more away from the RW revenge factor. I suspect this is because S6 will put the focus back on the Frey's at the Twins or Riverrun and they'll be a big comeuppance there which is maybe why they don't want to really hit that note too much at Winterfell this season.
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2015 22:08:23 GMT
You also have the Frey's cut (from Winterfell anyways) which takes a little more away from the RW revenge factor. I suspect this is because S6 will put the focus back on the Frey's at the Twins or Riverrun and they'll be a big comeuppance there which is maybe why they don't want to really hit that note too much at Winterfell this season. Stoneheart showing up in ep.10 would be a nice beginning for that...but Brienne is in the wrong place, doing nothing and talking shit about Stannis.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 21:22:40 GMT
I'm still having high hopes that Davos is off for Last Hearth in 5x07.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 20:32:22 GMT
I'm still having high hopes that Davos is off for Last Hearth in 5x07. Didn't happen... So, the beautiful, complex and arguably the best story line in ADWD was harshly simplified by D&D. We'll probably get Rickon or Sansa to finally start the Stark restoration, so we may still get a few Northern lords, but their role would be minimal.
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Post by Admin on Jun 15, 2015 20:37:03 GMT
I'm still having high hopes that Davos is off for Last Hearth in 5x07. Didn't happen... So, the beautiful, complex and arguably the best story line in ADWD was harshly simplified by D&D. We'll probably get Rickon or Sansa to finally start the Stark restoration, so we may still get a few Northern lords, but their role would be minimal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 20:39:13 GMT
Didn't happen... So, the beautiful, complex and arguably the best story line in ADWD was harshly simplified by D&D. We'll probably get Rickon or Sansa to finally start the Stark restoration, so we may still get a few Northern lords, but their role would be minimal. I was JUST about to post that GIF here.
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Post by Admin on Jun 15, 2015 20:40:57 GMT
It's my official review of season 5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 20:42:49 GMT
It's my official review of season 5 It's very accurate
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