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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 3:44:08 GMT
People in the WotW comments are joking that it's going to be Ramsay vs. Gendry. Edit: Oh it was barristanwhitebeard . Most of the comments are so awkward. ugh! No matter how many times the facts get pointed out, people still fall for it anyways and it's tiresome. Thank goodness the wait is almost over! I think Kit should stop doing interviews until after the episode when Jon is resurrected airs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 3:54:38 GMT
Yeah I'm actually surprised he's done as many as he has lately and the same tired question and answer routine. I know these things get 'approved' before the interviews ever take place, but who at HBO still thinks it's a good thing to have Kit going through this song and dance routine over and over? He should refuse to do them at this point.
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Post by Belle on Mar 28, 2016 4:02:35 GMT
i wonder if kit will attend the premiere in a couple of weeks. if i was him i wouldn't, but he'll probably attend because he's gonna be ~playing a corpse~
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Mar 28, 2016 4:04:05 GMT
Yeah I'm actually surprised he's done as many as he has lately and the same tired question and answer routine. I know these things get 'approved' before the interviews ever take place, but who at HBO still thinks it's a good thing to have Kit going through this song and dance routine over and over? He should refuse to do them at this point. He's promoting his play, it has nothing to do with HBO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 4:06:52 GMT
Yeah I'm actually surprised he's done as many as he has lately and the same tired question and answer routine. I know these things get 'approved' before the interviews ever take place, but who at HBO still thinks it's a good thing to have Kit going through this song and dance routine over and over? He should refuse to do them at this point. He's promoting his play, it has nothing to do with HBO. Which is why the topic of Jon Snow keeps coming up... his play. Right.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Mar 28, 2016 4:20:41 GMT
He's promoting his play, it has nothing to do with HBO. Which is why the topic of Jon Snow keeps coming up... his play. Right. Obviously Jon Snow is all anyone cares about, but that's not why his team is booking these interviews.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 9:01:55 GMT
I think the Umbers will switch sides and the Karstarks will be on the Bolton side. The Karstarks may even try to force Sansa to marry one of their lords, like they did to Alys Karstark. But she's still married to Ramsay, the only way to make her single is to make her a widow. Are you saying you think there's another double cross in the works where they fight for Ramsay while planning to kill him after the battle? Shes already married, but if they are planning to kill Ramsey then the heir sansa produces would be lord of winterfell. They may try not to marry her, just hold her there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 9:18:13 GMT
IIRC Harald will appear in 3 episodes, and Smalljon in 2.
I think Sansa will go straight to the Wall.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Mar 28, 2016 9:25:21 GMT
IIRC Harald will appear in 3 episodes, and Smalljon in 2. I think Sansa will go straight to the Wall. I think that's likely too. If Brienne leaves her with untrustworthy bannermen and Sansa trusts them anyway, that would be kinda beating a dead horse as far as Brienne fucking up the rescue mission and Sansa trusting the wrong people.
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Post by boojam on Mar 28, 2016 9:42:00 GMT
i wonder if kit will attend the premiere in a couple of weeks. if i was him i wouldn't, but he'll probably attend because he's gonna be ~playing a corpse~ I notice HBO says there will be only one premiere place this year. Not sure why that is because they are probably only going to show episode one , the cat's out of the bag, whatever cat that is! So just LA and that's it. Interesting to look for Gemma Whelan , she seems to have a larger role this season than she has ever had. She was at the season 4 premiere in London but has never been at one of the US Red Carpets. Somehow whenever Natalia Tena is in a season she also turns up on the red carpet. It will be interesting to see.
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Post by breakfest on Mar 28, 2016 9:54:17 GMT
Yeah, I mentioned that but as I said, it looks to be a glorified cameo who gives a speech when there's a bunch of characters meeting in a group. He doesn't have a sustained arc the way the Umber and Karstarks do. He's Manderly in name only. More of a shout out to book readers than anything. Also in there more as completionist thing because show already established that the Manderly house exists. If they wanted this character to truly fulfill the Manderly role, he would have been part of the main casting and given more screen time instead of the Smalljon and Karstark lord. The Smalljon casting call specifically says his role is "impactful" which means he gets to be a part of the main plot in a significant way and it somehow will hinge on him in some way. Yeah good point and we do know there will likely be some meeting with Ramsay bringing Harald and Smalljon to Winterfell before Snowbowl since they both appear in more than one episode and obviously have more of a role than Manderly does. So what you're saying is that Smalljon could pretend to serve the Boltons while secretly favoring the Starks, which is what a lot of us have been speculating for a while. I don't really see how The Umbers would turn completely on the Starks, unless they really are against the entire idea of Jon having the wildlings behind him because they have settled in the Gift too close to their home of Last Hearth.I really think that's going to be it. From what we know already: Smalljon has a 'hatred that runs deep', clearly a very specific source of hatred that's historical. Since he's an Umber, would make sense for this to be the wildlings. We know that Jon will be resurrected and likely overrun the Night's Watch, with the wildlings becoming the prominent force in the far North, settling in the Gift, taking part in the battle. We've even seen sets outside Castle Black that appear to be wildling settlements. So it's possible they will delve into the formation of these new communities this season, which could cause conflict with The Last Hearth. Finally, from pretty much every spoiler we've heard so far, contentious or not, the Umbers fight for the Boltons and there's been little sign of the possibility of turning coat. Yet even if they do end up turning coat, I'm pretty sure the reasoning for them siding with the Boltons will be that.
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Post by boojam on Mar 28, 2016 9:57:44 GMT
IIRC Harald will appear in 3 episodes, and Smalljon in 2. I think Sansa will go straight to the Wall. I think that's likely too. If Brienne leaves her with untrustworthy bannermen and Sansa trusts them anyway, that would be kinda beating a dead horse as far as Brienne fucking up the rescue mission and Sansa trusting the wrong people. A curious season. We can already kind of guess episode one. Sansa and Theon are rescued by Brienne (where is Pod?) ... from Bolton hunters, but then what? Would not think Theon and Sansa would part company until episode 2. Theon's travel back to the Iron Islands will probably be untold. We then don't really have any clues as to where Sansa goes , we know from last season she has allies , well a lot of allies, in the North. Going to CB seems logical , seems she must travel with Brienne and Pod for a little while. Wouldn't think she would want to go back to the Vale , tho , now she could turn the Vale against LF , that would be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 10:48:17 GMT
Hi,
Just joined here and this thread is a bit too long to go through everything right now. So jumping in with some stuff that was no doubt already discussed hoping to be able to add something new somewhere:
1. Pretty sure Mel must survive at least long enough for her vision of walking the ramparts of Winterfell to come true. That could still of course mean that she will die at the end of season after Winterfell is won, but not until IMO.
2. Jon is most likely going to be reborn somehow, but it is still interesting to consider what could happen on the off chance Kit has been telling the truth this whole time, and it is not just that Jon SNOW is dead, but that Kit really is done with the show. I know, unlikely but.... If Jon in all forms stays dead and gone, it must mean that the impact of his death on other characters is what matters to the story going forward. I would assume it would mean that Dany too would eventually die, as would all obvious in any way claimants to the throne (by virtue of drops of Targ/Baratheon blood). Which would leave Westeros absolutely leaderless. That could actually be kind of interesting: to see how those left cope without any hero to back.
3. I am one of the crazies who thinks we might get Stoneheart in season 6. Everything else surrounding her story is happening in season 6: siege of Riverrun, Brienne and probably Jaime in the Riverlands, outlaw characters cast, Blackfish return....and her resurrection would tie in to Jon's, as well as the reappearace of other dead and presumed dead characters such as the Cleganes, Shae (Shae!?!?) etc.
4. It seems the real Citadel action will be season 7. I think Sam lands very briefly in Oldtown before heading to Horn Hill to drop off Gilly. This would explain the complete lack of any important Oldtown characters in the casting calls.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 11:15:13 GMT
Hi, Just joined here and this thread is a bit too long to go through everything right now. So jumping in with some stuff that was no doubt already discussed hoping to be able to add something new somewhere: 1. Pretty sure Mel must survive at least long enough for her vision of walking the ramparts of Winterfell to come true. That could still of course mean that she will die at the end of season after Winterfell is won, but not until IMO. 2. Jon is most likely going to be reborn somehow, but it is still interesting to consider what could happen on the off chance Kit has been telling the truth this whole time, and it is not just that Jon SNOW is dead, but that Kit really is done with the show. I know, unlikely but.... If Jon in all forms stays dead and gone, it must mean that the impact of his death on other characters is what matters to the story going forward. I would assume it would mean that Dany too would eventually die, as would all obvious in any way claimants to the throne (by virtue of drops of Targ/Baratheon blood). Which would leave Westeros absolutely leaderless. That could actually be kind of interesting: to see how those left cope without any hero to back. 3. I am one of the crazies who thinks we might get Stoneheart in season 6. Everything else surrounding her story is happening in season 6: siege of Riverrun, Brienne and probably Jaime in the Riverlands, outlaw characters cast, Blackfish return....and her resurrection would tie in to Jon's, as well as the reappearace of other dead and presumed dead characters such as the Cleganes, Shae (Shae!?!?) etc. 4. It seems the real Citadel action will be season 7. I think Sam lands very briefly in Oldtown before heading to Horn Hill to drop off Gilly. This would explain the complete lack of any important Oldtown characters in the casting calls. Hello there, welcome to the forum! just thought i'd point you to this thread where the OP has all known info so far-> underthehearttree.freeforums.net/thread/553/road-season-all-info-postWhere it might be easier to catch up rather than reading through the speculation volumes. As for what you said, i agree. However i don't agree that the riverlands stuff being included means that Stoneheart is in. In fact, with Jon coming back and the Hound, i think it would be unlikely that LSH is also brought back. Although i hope Dany doesn't die
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Post by kingeomer on Mar 28, 2016 13:01:36 GMT
i wonder if kit will attend the premiere in a couple of weeks. if i was him i wouldn't, but he'll probably attend because he's gonna be ~playing a corpse~ I don't think he will. He will be doing the play. And welcome @hippocras!
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Post by boojam on Mar 28, 2016 13:07:30 GMT
1. Pretty sure Mel must survive at least long enough for her vision of walking the ramparts of Winterfell to come true. That could still of course mean that she will die at the end of season after Winterfell is won, but not until IMO. We still have the mystery from season 3 of Mel telling Arya that they will meet again, seems Arya is not going to get back to Westeros till late in S6.
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Post by mattpeto on Mar 28, 2016 13:12:18 GMT
Jon's corpse looks too upright here... Welcome @hippocras
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Post by mattpeto on Mar 28, 2016 13:13:31 GMT
1. Pretty sure Mel must survive at least long enough for her vision of walking the ramparts of Winterfell to come true. That could still of course mean that she will die at the end of season after Winterfell is won, but not until IMO. We still have the mystery from season 3 or Mel telling Arya that they will meet again, seems Arya is not going to get back to Westeros till late in S6. My crackpot theory holds up here. Mel wargs into Ghost (red eyes!) and she runs into Nymeria, after Arya and Nymeria unite.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 14:24:03 GMT
Jon's corpse looks too upright here... Welcome @hippocras aye, I know. But, you know, on the off chance that was a show trolling spies moment.....and maybe Shae on set was too.
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Post by Basil on Mar 28, 2016 14:28:21 GMT
3. I am one of the crazies who thinks we might get Stoneheart in season 6. Everything else surrounding her story is happening in season 6: siege of Riverrun, Brienne and probably Jaime in the Riverlands, outlaw characters cast, Blackfish return....and her resurrection would tie in to Jon's, as well as the reappearace of other dead and presumed dead characters such as the Cleganes, Shae (Shae!?!?) etc. I want to believe so bad.
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