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Post by naseridrl on May 8, 2015 9:32:50 GMT
I wonder if they'll use this episode as some sort of contrast between the forced union of Ramsay and Sansa and the more mutual union(or has evolved into a mutual union) of Myrcella and Trystane, especially as this seems like our first real sense of them as a couple. Try and show the two opposite ends of forced marriage.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on May 8, 2015 10:22:04 GMT
The chaos that ensues will be amazing. I can't wait for some folks in westeros.org to say that "It isn't rape, she isn't saying no!!" Somehow I think the rape apologists will be a bit less vocal than if Cersei was the victim or Tyrion a participant. Don't you know it's bad women who ask for it and nice guys who are never really rapists? |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 12:37:54 GMT
The chaos that ensues will be amazing. I can't wait for some folks in westeros.org to say that "It isn't rape, she isn't saying no!!" Thankfully none of those people are here. This episode will be awful. I should stock up on some vodka before I watch it. |
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Post by Admin on May 8, 2015 12:41:15 GMT
The chaos that ensues will be amazing. I can't wait for some folks in westeros.org to say that "It isn't rape, she isn't saying no!!" Thankfully none of those people are here. This episode will be awful. I should stock up on some vodka before I watch it. Is that the one directed by Podeswa? Because he managed to shoot a scene where a girl is dragged away from her screaming family by Nazis tastefully and subtly and deprived Fugitive Pieces from the book's horrific and unnecessarily scarring ending, so I imagine this whole Sansa scene will be brief, he is not a sadist, unlike the writers, apparently |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 12:46:07 GMT
Thankfully none of those people are here. This episode will be awful. I should stock up on some vodka before I watch it. Is that the one directed by Podeswa? Because he managed to shoot a scene where a girl is dragged away from her screaming family by Nazis tastefully and subtly and deprived Fugitive Pieces from the book's horrific and unnecessarily scarring ending, so I imagine this whole Sansa scene will be brief, he is not a sadist, unlike the writers, apparently Oh then maybe it will not be quite so awful. I hope she kills him. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 13:40:11 GMT
i'm not sure what will happen. but i think Sansa isn't ready for this, and if anyone can break a person its Ramsay. Sansa will break.
i don't know if it'll be 'rape' because by marrying Ramsay she knows the duty she has to perform. Ramsay being a psycho doesn't make much of a difference except it will be especially unpleasant. I wonder if Sansa will manipulate Ramsay into having a somewhat 'normal' wedding night.
I just really can't see how this is going to show her as a 'player' without some manipulation taking place. She's still LF's pawn!!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 13:51:19 GMT
The chaos that ensues will be amazing. I can't wait for some folks in westeros.org to say that "It isn't rape, she isn't saying no!!" Somehow I think the rape apologists will be a bit less vocal than if Cersei was the victim or Tyrion a participant. Don't you know it's bad women who ask for it and nice guys who are never really rapists? Looks like we already have some on this board. I see it as rape, because Sansa doesn't want to have sex with Ramsay. Very simple. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 14:20:27 GMT
Somehow I think the rape apologists will be a bit less vocal than if Cersei was the victim or Tyrion a participant. Don't you know it's bad women who ask for it and nice guys who are never really rapists? Looks like we already have some on this board. I see it as rape, because Sansa doesn't want to have sex with Ramsay. Very simple. Jeyne Poole was raped. Sansa is there by her own Volition. Yes she doesn't want to have sex with Ramsay, but she wants to be heir of Winterfell. She is giving her consent by first agreeing to marry him and second by going through with the marriage. BTW i am not condoning this storyline i personally hate it. But by our standards it is rape. in ASOIAF its just another marriage. |
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Post by Admin on May 8, 2015 15:24:20 GMT
Looks like we already have some on this board. I see it as rape, because Sansa doesn't want to have sex with Ramsay. Very simple. Jeyne Poole was raped. Sansa is there by her own Volition. Yes she doesn't want to have sex with Ramsay, but she wants to be heir of Winterfell. She is giving her consent by first agreeing to marry him and second by going through with the marriage. BTW i am not condoning this storyline i personally hate it. But by our standards it is rape. in ASOIAF its just another marriage. The consent to marry to not go to the consent to consummate. It is rape by our standards so I think we should call it that. I feel the women - and I hope men too - would feel slightly disgusted - I know I am - when there is a suggestion Sansa having have to consummate that thing is not rape. |
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Post by morgantayler on May 8, 2015 22:13:20 GMT
I'm not looking forward to it at all but at least it has a good chance at not being completely awful with Cogman as the writer and Podeswa as director.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 22:25:09 GMT
I'm not looking forward to it at all but at least it has a good chance at not being completely awful with Cogman as the writer and Podwesa as director. The wedding scene itself in the Godswood before the Weirwood should be good anyways. And Reek having to declare himself as being"Theon of the House Greyjoy, who was the ward of Eddard Stark" is the sort of guilty, existential angsty moment that Alfie sells so well.
The rest...we'll see.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 22:56:47 GMT
This is supposed to be Dorne's big episode, but it'll be completely overshadowed by Sansa/Ramsay.
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Post by naseridrl on May 8, 2015 23:19:04 GMT
Dorne has been very underwhelming so far so even without all the inevitable mess from the Sansa/Ramsay stuff. It'll be about half the season with barely any Dorne which seems a bit odd if they intend it to be a place that has a big impact.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 2:17:16 GMT
This is supposed to be Dorne's big episode, but it'll be completely overshadowed by Sansa/Ramsay. Reaction-wise, yes. Not screentime-wise though, I don't think. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 2:33:31 GMT
 That would line up pretty well with what we know happens as far as the Dorne stuff. I like this good closeup of Mycella - it's the first we've seen of her up close this season. I like that her dress is Dornish style (loose and revealing) which to me indicates she is adopting their ways! Edit: I also like that she looks quite a bit like the girl who played Cersei for the Maggy prophecy scene - so she's a believable daughter for Cersei as a younger version of herself in looks ... do you think she will get Mom's attitude as an adult? Not likely, she seems to favor Tommen's ways more than Joffrey's. |
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Post by river on May 9, 2015 5:01:05 GMT
i'm not sure what will happen. but i think Sansa isn't ready for this, and if anyone can break a person its Ramsay. Sansa will break. i don't know if it'll be 'rape' because by marrying Ramsay she knows the duty she has to perform. Ramsay being a psycho doesn't make much of a difference except it will be especially unpleasant. I wonder if Sansa will manipulate Ramsay into having a somewhat 'normal' wedding night. I just really can't see how this is going to show her as a 'player' without some manipulation taking place. She's still LF's pawn!! We know from the 5x07 ep description that Sansa is seeking out Theon. It could depend what she wants him for, but if she wants his help for an escape, that doesn't sound "broken" to me. The 5x08 ep description is that Sansa "confronts" an old friend. "Confront" sounds fairly aggressive; that doesn't sound like someone who's broken. I think the "Unbroken" part of the 5x06 ep title will apply to Sansa as well. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 7:13:38 GMT
i'm not sure what will happen. but i think Sansa isn't ready for this, and if anyone can break a person its Ramsay. Sansa will break. i don't know if it'll be 'rape' because by marrying Ramsay she knows the duty she has to perform. Ramsay being a psycho doesn't make much of a difference except it will be especially unpleasant. I wonder if Sansa will manipulate Ramsay into having a somewhat 'normal' wedding night. I just really can't see how this is going to show her as a 'player' without some manipulation taking place. She's still LF's pawn!! We know from the 5x07 ep description that Sansa is seeking out Theon. It could depend what she wants him for, but if she wants his help for an escape, that doesn't sound "broken" to me. The 5x08 ep description is that Sansa "confronts" an old friend. "Confront" sounds fairly aggressive; that doesn't sound like someone who's broken. I think the "Unbroken" part of the 5x06 ep title will apply to Sansa as well. Sansa wouldn't ask for Theon's help if she were a fully fledged player. Ramsay will torment her mentally Well depends on when the wedding is. its probably 506 so Sansa is seeking out Theon's help to escape winterfell just like Jeyne. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 7:16:04 GMT
Sansa wouldn't ask for Theon's help if she were a fully fledged player. Ramsay will torment her mentally Well depends on when the wedding is. its probably 506 so Sansa is seeking out Theon's help to escape winterfell just like Jeyne. The perv-site info confirms it's in 506. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 9:21:37 GMT
Sansa wouldn't ask for Theon's help if she were a fully fledged player. Ramsay will torment her mentally Well depends on when the wedding is. its probably 506 so Sansa is seeking out Theon's help to escape winterfell just like Jeyne. The perv-site info confirms it's in 506. thats some cropping in your avatar  |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 9:25:53 GMT
thats some cropping in your avatar Yeah, I guess it's pretty hypocritical of me to call that site pervy, innit? 
I'll go back to Roose when the 505 promo pics come out and we get a new still of him but for now...I really love me some Carice.
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